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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1581 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:13 am

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8 years?

you already think he is bolting for South Beach? :lol:


If we build crappy teams like the Bosh and Vince years, Scottie will be out at the same time lol. It's more than enough time to show you're a capable franchise.


I'm optimistic with where we are at roster wise in year 1 post Lowry. Masai will add another star soon via draft or trade and we will be ready to roll.


Same... I have 0 worries as long as Masai is around.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1582 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:23 am

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HE STAY.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1583 » by Madhouse » Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:14 am

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HE STAY.


This fanbase is so insecure. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1584 » by Courtside » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:43 pm

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VC15Era wrote:omg.. lets just stop this non-sense now.. only 2 months into his rookie season.. now wondering if he is going to leave.. wtf?

It's that inferior complex from VC, Bosh and Kawhi.

It's going to be different this time with Masai though. Barnes is going to pull other guys to Toronto and it will be beautiful to see.

Anyway, can't wait to see his journey with the Raptors.

We drafted a guy who literally was compared to J. Vanderbilt 3 years ago.

.H.S. Scouting Report
EVALUATED 09/12/2018
Jerry Meyer
Jerry Meyer
DIRECTOR OF BASKETBALL SCOUTING
PROJECTION

Round 1
TOP 10
COMPARISON

Jarred Vanderbilt
DENVER NUGGETS
Top-level athlete with tremendous length for a combo forward. Elite-level motor and competes at a top-of-the-charts level. Can defend any position on the court. Rebounds outside of his area. High-level passing ability. Extremely dangerous starting the break after a defensive rebound. Also, a lethal finisher. Scores very well off the dribble inside 15 feet. Has a lot of room to improve as a shooter. Projects as a one-and-done and possible top-five pick.



to




this is honestly incredible. :lol:


UH... Isn't Robert Misovic (guy in top left of video) tje roundly mocked and exiled Messiah? THE Abercrombie and Fitch model (aka door greeter)? The one who said Myers Leonars was a better player and would have a better career than Jonas Valanciunas?
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1585 » by Madhouse » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:54 pm

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Madhouse wrote:
VC15Era wrote:omg.. lets just stop this non-sense now.. only 2 months into his rookie season.. now wondering if he is going to leave.. wtf?

It's that inferior complex from VC, Bosh and Kawhi.

It's going to be different this time with Masai though. Barnes is going to pull other guys to Toronto and it will be beautiful to see.

Anyway, can't wait to see his journey with the Raptors.

We drafted a guy who literally was compared to J. Vanderbilt 3 years ago.

.H.S. Scouting Report
EVALUATED 09/12/2018
Jerry Meyer
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PROJECTION

Round 1
TOP 10
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Jarred Vanderbilt
DENVER NUGGETS
Top-level athlete with tremendous length for a combo forward. Elite-level motor and competes at a top-of-the-charts level. Can defend any position on the court. Rebounds outside of his area. High-level passing ability. Extremely dangerous starting the break after a defensive rebound. Also, a lethal finisher. Scores very well off the dribble inside 15 feet. Has a lot of room to improve as a shooter. Projects as a one-and-done and possible top-five pick.



to




this is honestly incredible. :lol:


UH... Isn't Robert Misovic (guy in top left of video) tje roundly mocked and exiled Messiah? THE Abercrombie and Fitch model (aka door greeter)? The one who said Myers Leonars was a better player and would have a better career than Jonas Valanciunas?


No idea who he is but it would not surprise. I realized nobody actually has a clue how these players will turn out anyway. Blake Murphy said he would just become an above average NBA player who would maybe make the Allstar team once at the peak of his powers. Vecenie said he is a zero level scorer. So it's funny because nobody knows how players end up.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1586 » by Reeko » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:14 pm

According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1587 » by everdiso » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:34 pm

Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


35% from 3 and he's competing for 1st overall imo.

Heck, even if people had realized that after a bad first month Scottie was 75% from the charity stripe nobody would have been surprised at where he was picked.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1588 » by everdiso » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:45 pm

Madhouse wrote:
VC15Era wrote:omg.. lets just stop this non-sense now.. only 2 months into his rookie season.. now wondering if he is going to leave.. wtf?

It's that inferior complex from VC, Bosh and Kawhi.

It's going to be different this time with Masai though. Barnes is going to pull other guys to Toronto and it will be beautiful to see.

Anyway, can't wait to see his journey with the Raptors.

We drafted a guy who literally was compared to J. Vanderbilt 3 years ago.

.H.S. Scouting Report
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Jerry Meyer
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PROJECTION

Round 1
TOP 10
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Jarred Vanderbilt
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Top-level athlete with tremendous length for a combo forward. Elite-level motor and competes at a top-of-the-charts level. Can defend any position on the court. Rebounds outside of his area. High-level passing ability. Extremely dangerous starting the break after a defensive rebound. Also, a lethal finisher. Scores very well off the dribble inside 15 feet. Has a lot of room to improve as a shooter. Projects as a one-and-done and possible top-five pick.



to




this is honestly incredible. :lol:


From that pic there it looks like they're comping him to KG and that's a comp I've always been seeing too, at least in part. Scottie obviously not quite as big and has more perimeter skills but there's still a lot of stylistic similarities imo.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1589 » by CANsportsguru » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:07 pm

Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


Always felt Green was way way too high. He has very poor shot mechanics where he starts very low with the ball which is okay in the G League where they don't play defense. Scottie would have probably been top 3 in the draft if he had shot better from the perimeter. If they redrafted today. I think he goes #1.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1590 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:13 pm

Merry Christmas all !
Let’s be thankful we have a future superstar on our team
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1591 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:17 pm

Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


Spot on.
Lennard Hamilton is regarded as one of the better college coaches but runs his programs like a true NBA coach

Thorp raved about him ans Masai supposedly is close with Lennard.

If covid never happened, Scottie likely goes number 1 with WAY MORE HYPE. i’m taking him over Cade. He just looks too dominant down the road.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1592 » by Reeko » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:33 pm

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Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


Spot on.
Lennard Hamilton is regarded as one of the better college coaches but runs his programs like a true NBA coach

Thorp raved about him ans Masai supposedly is close with Lennard.

If covid never happened, Scottie likely goes number 1 with WAY MORE HYPE. i’m taking him over Cade. He just looks too dominant down the road.

I'm just not sure about him going #1. Given that he still comes off the bench and his game is still confined to FSU's system, we still aren't able to see all that he can do on the court. We still would have no idea how good of a rebounder he is, or his ability in the post or mid range. I just figure shooting 35% solidifies him in the top 3 and bumps either one of Green or Mobley. Cade was so prominently featured at OSU and his stats were so good, that I just don't see him getting bumped from that top spot.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1593 » by billy_hoyle » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:18 pm

Reeko wrote:
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Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


Spot on.
Lennard Hamilton is regarded as one of the better college coaches but runs his programs like a true NBA coach

Thorp raved about him ans Masai supposedly is close with Lennard.

If covid never happened, Scottie likely goes number 1 with WAY MORE HYPE. i’m taking him over Cade. He just looks too dominant down the road.

I'm just not sure about him going #1. Given that he still comes off the bench and his game is still confined to FSU's system, we still aren't able to see all that he can do on the court. We still would have no idea how good of a rebounder he is, or his ability in the post or mid range. I just figure shooting 35% solidifies him in the top 3 and bumps either one of Green or Mobley. Cade was so prominently featured at OSU and his stats were so good, that I just don't see him getting bumped from that top spot.


No way. He went 4th because Masai and co are great at projecting. He was a reach at 4 based on the majority of opinions, a clear tier below Cade, Green, Mobley and Suggs.

He was playing off the bench in at FSU. Green and Cade were killing the gleague and college as featured players. Better underlying numbers don't change things for Barnes, where all of a sudden he vaults above Cade and Green.

The 3 best players in a draft never go 1 - 3. It's great to have Masai making a pick at 4, gave him the opportunity to focus on ceiling. Even then he got ridiculed for passing on Suggs. I'm excited to see what he does this year with a teens pick.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1594 » by Reeko » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:28 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
Reeko wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Spot on.
Lennard Hamilton is regarded as one of the better college coaches but runs his programs like a true NBA coach

Thorp raved about him ans Masai supposedly is close with Lennard.

If covid never happened, Scottie likely goes number 1 with WAY MORE HYPE. i’m taking him over Cade. He just looks too dominant down the road.

I'm just not sure about him going #1. Given that he still comes off the bench and his game is still confined to FSU's system, we still aren't able to see all that he can do on the court. We still would have no idea how good of a rebounder he is, or his ability in the post or mid range. I just figure shooting 35% solidifies him in the top 3 and bumps either one of Green or Mobley. Cade was so prominently featured at OSU and his stats were so good, that I just don't see him getting bumped from that top spot.


No way. He went 4th because Masai and co are great at projecting. He was a reach at 4 based on the majority of opinions, a clear tier below Cade, Green, Mobley and Suggs.

He was playing off the bench in at FSU. Green and Cade were killing the gleague and college as featured players. Better underlying numbers don't change things for Barnes, where all of a sudden he vaults above Cade and Green.

The 3 best players in a draft never go 1 - 3. It's great to have Masai making a pick at 4, gave him the opportunity to focus on ceiling. Even then he got ridiculed for passing on Suggs. I'm excited to see what he does this year with a teens pick.

He was a bit of a surprise at 4, nobody said it was a reach. Most people had him in the top 5.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1595 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:00 pm

Reeko wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Reeko wrote:According to Thorpe, FSU is one of the best programs when it comes to shot development but due to Covid Scottie wasn't able to practice and develop his shot as much as he would in a normal year. So I wondered if he shot 35% from 3 and averaged 14ppg, does he go any higher in the draft? Would that have been enough for a team like Houston or Cleveland to pass on Green or Mobley?

I figure Cade goes #1 regardless.


Spot on.
Lennard Hamilton is regarded as one of the better college coaches but runs his programs like a true NBA coach

Thorp raved about him ans Masai supposedly is close with Lennard.

If covid never happened, Scottie likely goes number 1 with WAY MORE HYPE. i’m taking him over Cade. He just looks too dominant down the road.

I'm just not sure about him going #1. Given that he still comes off the bench and his game is still confined to FSU's system, we still aren't able to see all that he can do on the court. We still would have no idea how good of a rebounder he is, or his ability in the post or mid range. I just figure shooting 35% solidifies him in the top 3 and bumps either one of Green or Mobley. Cade was so prominently featured at OSU and his stats were so good, that I just don't see him getting bumped from that top spot.


If he showed any glimpses of what hes done this year and did itast year, i think he is
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1596 » by Mikistan » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:10 pm

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HE STAY.


This fanbase is so insecure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

He gone stay
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Post#1597 » by rrdjutriurt » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:28 pm

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And to think the Magic could have drafted both Scottie and Wagner with their two picks. They could have had a future powerhouse.
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Post#1598 » by Bruin » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:37 pm

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And to think the Magic could have drafted both Scottie and Wagner with their two picks. They could have had a future powerhouse.

They had no chance to draft Scottie though so they couldn’t have done that
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Post#1599 » by The Warrior » Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:09 pm

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Madhouse wrote:
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And to think the Magic could have drafted both Scottie and Wagner with their two picks. They could have had a future powerhouse.

They had no chance to draft Scottie though so they couldn’t have done that

I think he just meant if the Raptors selected Suggs like most expected. Thank goodness we didn’t lol.


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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#1600 » by Indeed » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:43 am

Reeko wrote:
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Reeko wrote:I'm just not sure about him going #1. Given that he still comes off the bench and his game is still confined to FSU's system, we still aren't able to see all that he can do on the court. We still would have no idea how good of a rebounder he is, or his ability in the post or mid range. I just figure shooting 35% solidifies him in the top 3 and bumps either one of Green or Mobley. Cade was so prominently featured at OSU and his stats were so good, that I just don't see him getting bumped from that top spot.


No way. He went 4th because Masai and co are great at projecting. He was a reach at 4 based on the majority of opinions, a clear tier below Cade, Green, Mobley and Suggs.

He was playing off the bench in at FSU. Green and Cade were killing the gleague and college as featured players. Better underlying numbers don't change things for Barnes, where all of a sudden he vaults above Cade and Green.

The 3 best players in a draft never go 1 - 3. It's great to have Masai making a pick at 4, gave him the opportunity to focus on ceiling. Even then he got ridiculed for passing on Suggs. I'm excited to see what he does this year with a teens pick.

He was a bit of a surprise at 4, nobody said it was a reach. Most people had him in the top 5.


First, Detroit seems to be dead set with Cunningham, and their next section was Green, still it was not a bad pick, and was widely expected.
Second, Houston was dead set with Green, and no top players want to workout for them.
Third, Cleveland didn't make a bad pick, otherwise, Mobley would be a good fit for our need.

As for being #4, I was defending Barnes in the draft thread, and I wasn't surprised with the pick. Orlando said they will take Barnes if he is available, therefore, going #4 wasn't even a surprise to me.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't write off Green this early. It was just Barnes is able to make his mid-range shot, he still has a lot for playing PG or SF, which is what he prefer to play.

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