Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Nwora in protocols

Bucksfan28 · Post #1801 » by **Bucksfan28** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:13 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
midranger wrote:New, somewhat random name. Daniel Gafford.

Anyone in to him?

Yes, he’d be great, but the Wizards love him.

And they just extended him. Thinking it'd have to be a significant overpay.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1802 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:45 am

Bucksfan28 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
midranger wrote:New, somewhat random name. Daniel Gafford.

Anyone in to him?

Yes, he’d be great, but the Wizards love him.

And they just extended him. Thinking it'd have to be a significant overpay.

Jaxson Hayes does what Gafford does, but also shows the hint of a 3 point shot. He's not in the rotation for New Orleans, as they prefer more classic centers in Jonas and Willy Hernangomez.

Hayes fits the modern NBA center archetype, as he has the agility to defend on the perimeter but also protect the rim, and he's definitely doesn't have the bulk to be a banger.

He'd fit well in our development system, but we have bigger needs at forward.

giannis and 1 · Post #1803 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:55 am

Another idea I've had is Nwora for Tillman.

midranger · Post #1804 » by **midranger** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:58 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Another idea I've had is Nwora for Tillman.

I like Tillman

skones · Post #1805 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:13 am

Whispers that Nick Richards may be getting some more minutes in Charlotte. He's got a pretty interesting profile. Big, athletic, relatively switchable, pretty good free throw shooter (also showed flashes of range albeit in a very small sample) in the g-league last year. Could end up being a name to watch.

GoldenAntlers · Post #1806 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:47 am

skones wrote:Whispers that Nick Richards may be getting some more minutes in Charlotte. He's got a pretty interesting profile. Big, athletic, relatively switchable, pretty good free throw shooter (also showed flashes of range albeit in a very small sample) in the g-league last year. Could end up being a name to watch.

A perfect opportunity squandered for "the buzz around town is..."

Brewhoopfan · Post #1807 » by **Brewhoopfan** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:01 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:

Read on Twitter

No Jim, this is what "rotation issues" looks like:

WRau1 · Post #1808 » by **WRau1** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:01 pm

I don't know why the Bucks don't apply for a DPE on Lopez, unless they're waiting until the last possible day to file. If what I'm reading is correct, there isn't really any downside to it. If the independent doctors rule that Lopez is likely to be out through June, there is no rule saying that he has to stay out. If he recovers quickly he can still rejoin the team. Would be a pretty huge to have a onetime $6.6mil (limited)TPE/offer for a buyout guy.

crkone · Post #1809 » by **crkone** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:16 pm

WRau1 wrote:I don't know why the Bucks don't apply for a DPE on Lopez, unless they're waiting until the last possible day to file. If what I'm reading is correct, there isn't really any downside to it. If the independent doctors rule that Lopez is likely to be out through June, there is no rule saying that he has to stay out. If he recovers quickly he can still rejoin the team. Would be a pretty huge to have a onetime $6.6mil (limited)TPE/offer for a buyout guy.

There is speculation, I think reported by Lowe, that he'd be back well before the playoffs.

buckboy · Post #1810 » by **buckboy** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:45 pm

Brewhoopfan wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:

Read on Twitter

No Jim, this is what "rotation issues" looks like:

Joe Courtney!

WRau1 · Post #1811 » by **WRau1** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:48 pm

crkone wrote:
WRau1 wrote:I don't know why the Bucks don't apply for a DPE on Lopez, unless they're waiting until the last possible day to file. If what I'm reading is correct, there isn't really any downside to it. If the independent doctors rule that Lopez is likely to be out through June, there is no rule saying that he has to stay out. If he recovers quickly he can still rejoin the team. Would be a pretty huge to have a onetime $6.6mil (limited)TPE/offer for a buyout guy.
There is speculation, I think reported by Lowe, that he'd be back well before the playoffs.

You still apply for it and see, even if they think they can get him back in May.

skones · Post #1812 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:41 pm

WRau1 wrote:
crkone wrote:
WRau1 wrote:I don't know why the Bucks don't apply for a DPE on Lopez, unless they're waiting until the last possible day to file. If what I'm reading is correct, there isn't really any downside to it. If the independent doctors rule that Lopez is likely to be out through June, there is no rule saying that he has to stay out. If he recovers quickly he can still rejoin the team. Would be a pretty huge to have a onetime $6.6mil (limited)TPE/offer for a buyout guy.
There is speculation, I think reported by Lowe, that he'd be back well before the playoffs.

You still apply for it and see, even if they think they can get him back in May.

In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

midranger · Post #1813 » by **midranger** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:25 pm

Brewhoopfan wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:

Read on Twitter

No Jim, this is what "rotation issues" looks like:

Derek Strong Was stacked.

WRau1 · Post #1814 » by **WRau1** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:30 pm

skones wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
crkone wrote:There is speculation, I think reported by Lowe, that he'd be back well before the playoffs.

You still apply for it and see, even if they think they can get him back in May.

In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

Teams do it all the time w/ guys that they know will return, just like the Bulls did with Pat Williams over a dislocated wrist. Another reason to do it now, even if the Bucks think Lopez will be back, is if there is a setback in his rehab. You apply now and if the deny it, you can reapply when (if) the setback happens. Can't reapply after the deadline if you didn't apply prior to it.

skones · Post #1815 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:33 pm

WRau1 wrote:
skones wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
You still apply for it and see, even if they think they can get him back in May.

In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

Teams do it all the time w/ guys that they know will return, just like the Bulls did with Pat Williams over a dislocated wrist. Another reason to do it now, even if the Bucks think Lopez will be back, is if there is a setback in his rehab. You apply now and if the deny it, you can reapply when (if) the setback happens. Can't reapply after the deadline if you didn't apply prior to it.

I mean, like I said, they need to know that a physician could look at him and say there is a likelihood of him missing the entire year. If that's not a possibility, you're spinning tires for the sake of spinning tires. Seems like a waste of time. We've got a minute till the deadline.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1816 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:35 pm

WRau1 wrote:
skones wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
You still apply for it and see, even if they think they can get him back in May.

In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

Teams do it all the time w/ guys that they know will return, just like the Bulls did with Pat Williams over a dislocated wrist. Another reason to do it now, even if the Bucks think Lopez will be back, is if there is a setback in his rehab. You apply now and if the deny it, you can reapply when (if) the setback happens. Can't reapply after the deadline if you didn't apply prior to it.

WRau1 is correct, this is how the procedure works.

However, the Bucks won't apply for this because money spent with the DPE counts against the tax, and ownership is pinching pennies

MVP2110 · Post #1817 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:12 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
skones wrote:
In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

Teams do it all the time w/ guys that they know will return, just like the Bulls did with Pat Williams over a dislocated wrist. Another reason to do it now, even if the Bucks think Lopez will be back, is if there is a setback in his rehab. You apply now and if the deny it, you can reapply when (if) the setback happens. Can't reapply after the deadline if you didn't apply prior to it.

WRau1 is correct, this is how the procedure works.

However, the Bucks won't apply for this because money spent with the DPE counts against the tax, and ownership is pinching pennies

Remember when people said the Bucks wouldn't use the TPMLE because they were cheap? Or that they wouldn't use their TPE because they were cheap?

coolhandluke121 · Post #1818 » by **coolhandluke121** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:39 am

Brewhoopfan wrote:
No Jim, this is what "rotation issues" looks like:

Spoiler:

Well of course it looks rough if you don't have Brickowski in the picture. Fake news alert.

DrWood · Post #1819 » by **DrWood** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:28 am

Brewhoopfan wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:

Read on Twitter

No Jim, this is what "rotation issues" looks like:

Blue Edwards and Brad Lohaus: NBA Jam all-stars!

Post #1820 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:29 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
skones wrote:
In order to apply for the DPE, you need to know that the player will miss the rest of the season. It's "Disabled Player Exception," if they think there's a chance he's back before the end of the season, that doesn't make him disabled, thus there's nothing to apply for.

Teams do it all the time w/ guys that they know will return, just like the Bulls did with Pat Williams over a dislocated wrist. Another reason to do it now, even if the Bucks think Lopez will be back, is if there is a setback in his rehab. You apply now and if the deny it, you can reapply when (if) the setback happens. Can't reapply after the deadline if you didn't apply prior to it.

WRau1 is correct, this is how the procedure works.

However, the Bucks won't apply for this because money spent with the DPE counts against the tax, and ownership is pinching pennies

I think that's a reach. The Disabled Player Exception is for when a player has an injury deemed to be season-ending. Because the Bucks have indicated Lopez will likely return, there's a matter of credibility if the Bucks tried to use this exception.