Nets @ Pacers| 1.05.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES

[Prokorov]

He needs to be the bigger person and just get the shot. Rather than trying to get them to change the rules for him.

He isnt trying to change the rules though. and i dont think that getting the shot makes him the "bigger person". and i don't think basketball is even close to as important as your own personal choices. He has willingfully accepted the consequences, even as he admitted it was incredible difficult. He cooperated with the nets keeping him out. again, not a peep.

He didnt put money before personal choices. i applaud that. you dont see it often anymore.

[Hello Brooklyn]

That is pretty much why it will be revised or removed at some point. cases are exploding, spread is vast and cant really be contained much. Vaccines help reduce likelyhood of complication, but its spreading regardless. Which given its (so far) producing lesser symptoms then prior strands, a good thing.

We should reach herd immunity or endemic status. It is getting closer and closer to being at the risk levels of the common cold or the flu. Their is no political pressure to keep these mandates anymore especially when the science doesnt support it. The mandates are not preventing spread and we arent seeing ICUs overwhelming (overall admission are up, but not ICU admissions)

looking at south africa, who is only 25% vaccinated, the end is likely in sight of this being a pandemic

Youre just looking at it from your point of view.

It doesn't matter what you think is right. It matters how politicians view it in NYC.

Cases right now are at an all time high and there is no appetite at all to repeal mandates. Saying they are not preventing the spread is just a lie. They do help prevent the spread.

Maybe in a few months once Omicron passes we may start to see a relaxation of regulation. Right now nothing is going to happen.

Kyrie just needs to get the **** shot.

Democrats are no longer fighting for lockdowns and restrictions in the senate. there is no political pressure for mandates any more. The vaccine has not prevented the spread of the new strain. NY just peaked for positive cases despite its highest vaccination rate. Looking at the NBA as a microcosm, 99% vaccination rate but infections plaguing the league.

Cases being high is not an independent variable for risk. Risk factors in the mortality rate and rate of hospitalization. If we did testing for the common cold, cases would be sky high too, but we dont, cause its minor for most of the population.

Americans are no longer gung ho on mandates. they want freedom to move around. the political pressure isnt there like it was a year or even a quarter ago. and the science doesnt justify the mandate.

The mandate WILL end. the only question is when. id assume Q1 this year when we have over the counter and perscription treatment for covid infections and omicron has spread and shown little impact.

What are you even talking about?

Lockdowns are done at the state level. Democrats in the Senate have nothing to do with lockdowns.

And the federal mandate is still being implemented and enforced. I know that for a fact due to my job. Which is up to the White House not the Senate.

There may be fervor for not having mandates in certain parts of the country. Definitely not NYC where mandates are broadly popular.

Youre not getting it. Politicians in NYC are not going to repeal the mandate in the middle of a massive surge. Its not going to happen.

Whether you want it to our not.

They will only be repealed once COVID is squarely under control and there is no new dangerous variant on the horizon.

[Hello Brooklyn]

He needs to be the bigger person and just get the shot. Rather than trying to get them to change the rules for him.

He isnt trying to change the rules though. and i dont think that getting the shot makes him the "bigger person". and i don't think basketball is even close to as important as your own personal choices. He has willingfully accepted the consequences, even as he admitted it was incredible difficult. He cooperated with the nets keeping him out. again, not a peep.

He didnt put money before personal choices. i applaud that. you dont see it often anymore.

Im not saying hes trying to change the rules. But certain people are advocating for the rules to be changed.

Yes getting the vaccine is a civic duty to protect your health and that of others.

And its his duty to his teammates who are forced to play without him.

He has no reason not to get it.

[Prokorov]

They will only be repealed once COVID is squarely under control and there is no new dangerous variant on the horizon.

Which is basically where we are right now.

[MrDollarBills]

Unvaccinated NYers are still getting infected and hospitalized at more than 6x and 14x the rate of vaccinated ones.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-hospitalizations-top-2021-surge-levels-as-omicron-drives-95-of-cases/3476250/

Hospitalizations would be even higher in the city if not for the mandate. Just because the virus has become more contagious doesn't mean that vaccines aren't working, but this fact gets purposely overlooked by antivaxxers with a clear agenda.

No one claimed the vaccines were not working. the claim was vaccines have not been effective in preventing spread of omicron. At least not to any meaningful degree.

Hospital cases are up, but not ICU cases. Alot of that may have to do with panic, you have symptoms, you test positive, you go to the hospital, they discharge you with advice to treat it like the flu. We are not seeing ICUs over run or a shortage of ventilators.

There is zero reason why it should be lifted during this winter surge, and it's hilarious seeing an antivaxxer trying to say that science doesnt support a health policy that has clearly worked in terms of keeping the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. It's far easier to manage this situation when you have a highly vaccinated population like NYC's, thanks to the mandate.

it worked. past tense. it was necessary at one point. i dont believe it is necessary any longer. im all for being conservative and keeping it longer then needed. thats just smart. but the science no longer dictates that it is needed. it is not reducing spread and ICUs are not over run. meaning tons of people are still getting it, but not getting seriously sick.

it is very very likely endemic. we have OTC treatment. people are recovering at home. I very much believe in vaccines. i have had 2 shots + a booster. nothing at this point leads me to believe that the current state of COVID is any more dangerous to the public then the flu.

Preventing unvaccinated people from going to bars, gyms, theaters, games etc is actually saving their lives since the science shows that they are the ones with higher risk of hospitalization, so I think the mandate still serves its purpose.

[MrDollarBills]

They will only be repealed once COVID is squarely under control and there is no new dangerous variant on the horizon.

Which is basically where we are right now.

Hospitalizations are up substantially, I'm not sure how you can say that Covid is under control.

[Hello Brooklyn]

They will only be repealed once COVID is squarely under control and there is no new dangerous variant on the horizon.

Which is basically where we are right now.

Cases are at an all time and COVID is under control to you

Even if thats your opinion its not how most people in NYC feel. Or politicians there.

[TheNetsFan]

All people can do is speculate now. I would say we're about 3 weeks away from clarity. If Omicron cases decrease as rapidly in NY as it did in other countries, then there will be strong reason to consider easing the mandate. We're already seeing the CDC take a step towards normalcy by reducing isolation periods in spite of record case counts & the fact that some estimates state that about 30% of infected individuals could still be contagious beyond Day 5.

It's almost as if they're accepting the notion that everybody has a date with Omicron, and believe that as long as the spike isn't too acute, that letting it go is not necessarily a bad thing.

[Prokorov]

They will only be repealed once COVID is squarely under control and there is no new dangerous variant on the horizon.

Which is basically where we are right now.

Hospitalizations are up substantially, I'm not sure how you can say that Covid is under control.

Because all hospitalizations are not equal and ICU admissions are not up. also, im not saying its under control so much as its no longer a serious risk

[MrDollarBills]

Which is basically where we are right now.

Hospitalizations are up substantially, I'm not sure how you can say that Covid is under control.

Because all hospitalizations are not equal and ICU admissions are not up. also, im not saying its under control so much as its no longer a serious risk

While the new variant is causing mild symptoms for the most part, I think it's still too soon to ease up when we're seeing NY hitting triple digit daily covid related deaths for the first time in a year.

I think this might be the last hurdle before we begin to see some semblance of normalcy return as we head towards spring. At that point, I think we may have a real chance of restrictions being lifted.

[MrDollarBills]

Ian Eagle said yesterday on Sirius XM that the Nets are working with the city to allow Kyrie to play full time.

You guys know how I feel and Kyrie should get vaccinated. However, the rule that he cannot play when other unvaccinated players from other teams can is utterly stupid. Either change the rule to bar all unvaccinated players from entering Barclays or let the dude play now since he is not a risk to infect others at this point.

[HardenGoat]

Omicron is spreading at an incredible rate. I see it daily and this last week the numbers infected is staggering right now. We estimate 80 percent of the population in Florida will have had it before the end of this month. Symptoms are relatively mild and we haven’t had any icu cases. I expect mandates to be lifted in the next couple months and a heavy push to go back to normalcy. Kyrie might get lucky here.

[gigantes]

Going back a bit, yeah... Prokhy was right about Irving adding something both essential and special to the offense. That ability to zip around with the ball in silky-smooth fashion, sowing chaos for the D and incidentally creating passes and opportunities all around him.

Still though, I've been able to catch a lot more games recently, and this offense is just painful to watch. To me it's the height of folly to telegraph where the scoring is going to come from, even when you have great scorers. Rather, you want to run a nice, solid offense that relies on talent, athleticism and shooting as little as reasonable, and then drop your killers in to that mix. Do that well enough and you're going to break teams, wear them out, demoralise them and regularly create score deficits that will let you rest key players as often as possible.

If the Dubs and a couple other teams can do it so well, why can't the Nets?

At this point I get more pleasure watching the local team (Fro & the Cavs) than I do this BRK team. These Nets are like a weird spectacle of superheroes running on giant hamster wheels, pulling the million-pound franchise behind them. You only see that in comic books, normally.

[LOUiS-D]

Kai stans been eating a whole lot of s*** sandwiches this season and seeing him out there I was fking beaming. Especially that fast break late in the 4th after the beautiful poke away by Harden on a deep positioned Sabonis. His speed, strength, change of speed, poise, footwork, hang time and finishing. It's so fking beautiful to watch.

The very next possession the floor is spaced for him, he's out top and his man defender is dead meat. Dead meat before the first attacking step.

Legit so happy to see him play.

[Prokorov]

Ian Eagle said yesterday on Sirius XM that the Nets are working with the city to allow Kyrie to play full time.

You guys know how I feel and Kyrie should get vaccinated. However, the rule that he cannot play when other unvaccinated players from other teams can is utterly stupid. Either change the rule to bar all unvaccinated players from entering Barclays or let the dude play now since he is not a risk to infect others at this point.

This was my beef from the start. if its about safety, then apply it like a safety measure and ban everyone unvaxxed.

[Prokorov]

Kai stans been eating a whole lot of s*** sandwiches this season and seeing him out there I was fking beaming. Especially that fast break late in the 4th after the beautiful poke away by Harden on a deep positioned Sabonis. His speed, strength, change of speed, poise, footwork and finishing. It's so fking beautiful to watch.

The very next possession the floor is spaced for him, he's out top and his man defender is dead meat. Dead meat before the first attacking step.

Legit so happy to see him play.

its going to help harden a ton. you can run a pick and roll with Kyrie just to move the D then get it to harden on the win as the D is rotating and his man is toast.with kyrie here the ball moves side to side and revesed across the floor. without the big 3, it just goes to whatever side kd is on and dies there

[GTR11]

Last time we were being lead by **** Deron Williams.

KD was the best guy on the Warriors. They were not beating LeBron without him period.

Kyrie took the Celtics further than they did last year or will go this year. He was like 20 years when he was on those Cavs teams, who gives a ****.

Ja and LaMelo had way better teams around them.

What has Dame ever done that Kyrie hasn't? Get embarrassed by Steph Curry while Kyrie outplayed him twice? Is Kevin Love really the third all star LOL. He was awful in every Finals.

You just sound like the biggest Nets hater in the world.

Why don't you go root for the Knicks or something?

Instead of having a meltdown about a Nets team on track to have its most wins ever with the best player in the league.

D.Will and Joe considered to be best back court at that time We also got B.LO back who had all star season. What you still don't understand and it seems beyond your abilities is the fact that Bulls team was overlooked for many reasons. Main theme was injuries, led by ex players.

Another factual lie here. The year before Saltics went to CF led by Tatum. Yes the year Kyrie got hurt. Saltics fans didn't go after Kyrie for no reason, if anything he said himself that mistakes were made and he should've known better. I wonder why he called LBJ . Go ask Saltic fans, they'll give you in depth storyline.

Another lie. Ja and LaMelo joined teams that were clearly rebuilding and had no intentions to compete.

I'm sounding like a guy who'll be schooling you again few months from now. I've been watching sports for over 20 years. Basketball, Football, Soccer etc you name it. This team has all the signs of overrated fluke. Unless they readjust immediately. This far they showed no signs of doing so.

I've been Nets fan before you was born probably.
Being cocky dumb dumb is not something I'm going to cosign to.

You have no idea how rare it is to collect/assemble team like this. If we blow this... we will go down as THE MOST DISAPPOINTING TEAM EVER !!! We on track to do just that. I don't consider myself a loser. I'll voice my opinion in order to change just that. I really doubt you can comprehend it though, so go kick rocks for few months, GTR11 summer school will be in session soon.

Delusional. Nobody considered Deron-Joe to beat the Heat or LeBron.

Lopez was a replacement All Star who never even sniffed the team again. That Bulls team wasn't good at all. We just sucked. In a way we would not this year.

Yes the Celtics made the ECF when the East sucked donkey ass. Who did they beat exactly? An injured Philly team and a .500 Bucks team.

Ever since Kyrie left they have sucked except for a fluke bubble run. This year they won't even make the playoffs. I know better than to ask Saltic fans about Kyrie either.

Yes Ja and Lamelo joined teams with talent around them. Who did Kyrie have? Dion Waiters?

You won't be schooling me at all. Youre crying about the Nets having the best season they've ever had with the best player in the world on the team.

You better HOPE you are right. Because if we do win it all this year I will expose your hysteria for exactly what it is.

What a joke. You've been exposed.

[GTR11]

Ian Eagle said yesterday on Sirius XM that the Nets are working with the city to allow Kyrie to play full time.

You guys know how I feel and Kyrie should get vaccinated. However, the rule that he cannot play when other unvaccinated players from other teams can is utterly stupid. Either change the rule to bar all unvaccinated players from entering Barclays or let the dude play now since he is not a risk to infect others at this point.

It's a game of numbers. They won't do it. If things will go south with covid again, he won't last much. I already can see narratives from GQP and select scientists/Dr that no popo should be in a office especially after comments he made.

Sometime in a near future hopefully things will change. It's clear as day Dems starting to apply pressure on CDC to start easing up due to economic situation.

[NetsWorld]

The bright side of everything is Kyrie is fresh and healthy instead of being worn out. We need Kyrie for the playoffs; if they can get him full time by then, then the Nets are favorites. Until then, I cannot see us holding home with just KD/Harden. The offense struggles to barely go above 105 with no Kyrie. With Kyrie, we got to 129! That's how ridiculous the offense CAN be with him on the floor. If we can get him back full time and, the offense will stifle teams as well as the defense. The idea with mixing defense with offense this year was so our score can be 125-95 against most teams and a monkey wrench was thrown in. Harden was the key factor and now we realize we need Kyrie. KD advocated for it because he knows he cannot get it done with just Harden. Harden getting 18-20 PPG is great WITH Kyrie on the floor. Without him, it's a disaster.

[Hello Brooklyn]

D.Will and Joe considered to be best back court at that time We also got B.LO back who had all star season. What you still don't understand and it seems beyond your abilities is the fact that Bulls team was overlooked for many reasons. Main theme was injuries, led by ex players.

Another factual lie here. The year before Saltics went to CF led by Tatum. Yes the year Kyrie got hurt. Saltics fans didn't go after Kyrie for no reason, if anything he said himself that mistakes were made and he should've known better. I wonder why he called LBJ . Go ask Saltic fans, they'll give you in depth storyline.

Another lie. Ja and LaMelo joined teams that were clearly rebuilding and had no intentions to compete.

I'm sounding like a guy who'll be schooling you again few months from now. I've been watching sports for over 20 years. Basketball, Football, Soccer etc you name it. This team has all the signs of overrated fluke. Unless they readjust immediately. This far they showed no signs of doing so.

I've been Nets fan before you was born probably.
Being cocky dumb dumb is not something I'm going to cosign to.

You have no idea how rare it is to collect/assemble team like this. If we blow this... we will go down as THE MOST DISAPPOINTING TEAM EVER !!! We on track to do just that. I don't consider myself a loser. I'll voice my opinion in order to change just that. I really doubt you can comprehend it though, so go kick rocks for few months, GTR11 summer school will be in session soon.

Delusional. Nobody considered Deron-Joe to beat the Heat or LeBron.

Lopez was a replacement All Star who never even sniffed the team again. That Bulls team wasn't good at all. We just sucked. In a way we would not this year.

Yes the Celtics made the ECF when the East sucked donkey ass. Who did they beat exactly? An injured Philly team and a .500 Bucks team.

Ever since Kyrie left they have sucked except for a fluke bubble run. This year they won't even make the playoffs. I know better than to ask Saltic fans about Kyrie either.

Yes Ja and Lamelo joined teams with talent around them. Who did Kyrie have? Dion Waiters?

You won't be schooling me at all. Youre crying about the Nets having the best season they've ever had with the best player in the world on the team.

You better HOPE you are right. Because if we do win it all this year I will expose your hysteria for exactly what it is.

What a joke. You've been exposed.

Go cry about how awful the best Nets team of our lifetime by far is.

Sheesh. What were you like when we went 12-70 if youre this upset about having Kevin Durant and James Harden.