Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career

Post #41 » by **KingDavid** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:31 pm

Y'all never learn.

Post #42 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:44 pm

He's averaging with his April numbers last year.

Warriorfan · Post #43 » by **Warriorfan** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:35 pm

Shooting numbers are down for Curry but he is still contributing MVP level.

If he plays defense like this yr next yr he makes all defensive teams

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-defensive-rating-leaders-this-season

ceiling raiser · Post #44 » by **ceiling raiser** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:47 pm

Of course not.

Teams are just hard doubling him on and off ball, and with the rest of the team cooling down from three they’re unable to punish him.

Even if Klay Thompson isn't 100% of his old self, he will help take attention off Curry.

Rodwilliams · Post #45 » by **Rodwilliams** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:53 pm

theoilslick wrote:
Winsome Gerbil wrote:
Curry's a couple of months from being 34, and an injury prone 34 at that. One of these "exposed" threads very soon is going to turn out to be right. For a small guard, it's definitely about time.

One thing to note though is that the reason his FG% is so low is because he's just become a complete one-dimensional 3pt chucker. Back in his MVP days 55% of hsi shots were threes, which was ridiculous. But now it's up to 65%, and he's not hitting them as well. And part of that is his inability to get clear and finish cleanly inside. Which itself could be age/quickness related. He looks awkward when not shooting a three, and the threes, even for Curry, begin to be giveups after a while.

Riiight….In “3pt chucker” Curry’s 2020-21 RS his TS% 65.5, 3P% 42.1 and eFG% 60.1.

His “awkward” 2021-22 RS shows TS% 59.1, 3P% 38.8 and eFG% 54.5.

His 3P% is at its lowest, but compare this season’s point guards as they are 34.9 for the average 3P%. He’s still shooting 3s more efficiently than the average PG Joe.

And on behalf of analysts, please get off your FG% jockstrap. It’s inaccurate for measuring true offense efficiency.

No one said that Curry wasn’t the greatest shooter anymore. No one said that other players are better shooters than him. It’s pretty pointless comparing his 3 point percentage to other players when he’s already the unanimous GOAT shooter.

Marrrcuss · Post #46 » by **Marrrcuss** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:54 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Shooting numbers are down for Curry but he is still contributing MVP level.

If he plays defense like this yr next yr he makes all defensive teams

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-defensive-rating-leaders-this-season

So I'm watching the Mavs game and I notice, as usual, curry isn't trusted being on the point guard. Of course they weren't going to put him on Luka either.

They actually had him on Finney-Smith. The least dangerous guy on the court, AS USUAL.

So yea, I get why the stats may point to him being decent, but it's manipulative

art_tatum · Post #47 » by **art_tatum** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:57 pm

It will get back up to 40-41 % which only takes a few hot games. He's basically at 39%
But yes he will never reach his 45% mark. Not bc of decline but teams play him differently now they have years to figure out Kerr's system, no Klay, no Draymond spacing the floor at 40% shooting. Also Steph is taking more 3s with worse shot selection.

The Box Office · Post #48 » by **The Box Office** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:57 pm

Just because he had 2 recent bad games?

Ndugu Kamala · Post #49 » by **Ndugu Kamala** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 11:08 pm

Shooting slumps are not allowed! Ever!

GSP · Post #50 » by **GSP** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 11:09 pm

This thread will NOT age well. Looking forward to the bump

ciueli · Post #51 » by **ciueli** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 12:31 am

There are virtually no major stars in the history of the NBA who played at a career peak at age 33 or later. Only one I can find is Karl Malone (career high Box +/-, Win Shares, Win Shares/48, and PER at 33). Even Jordan's numbers were falling off slightly by 33.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #52 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 12:32 am

Yeah he hasn't looked good lately. But he'll probably turn it around. Crazy he's 33 thought he was a little younger. Getting up there with age. With those ankles it's only going to get harder.

DroseReturnChi · Post #53 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 12:58 am

currys washed up. career lows in everything efficiency plummeting. curry fans should follow zach lavine he is steph with athleticism of MJ.

BoatsNZones · Post #54 » by **BoatsNZones** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 1:14 am

Probably not. Did you miss his post ASB play last season (best player in the NBA), or his start to the season this year (top 2 in the NBA)? The only player with clearly better advanced stats even after this slump is Jokic.

Quite the post prime if so.

He’s in a shooting slump. I guarantee he turns it up and in a big way sooner than later. He’s missing shots he drills in his sleep.

Bobbcats · Post #55 » by **Bobbcats** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 1:59 am

The only player with clearly better advanced stats even after this slump is Jokic

Advanced *STAT* you mean

RAPTOR WAR is in it's own little world saying Curry is having a better season than the others. And Jokic who is on top of lots of them is #1 in WAR on the back of his world-beating defense, so gonna take it with a grain of salt

Marrrcuss · Post #56 » by **Marrrcuss** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 2:10 am

The Box Office wrote:Just because he had 2 recent bad games?

U seriously think that's all it's been?

BoatsNZones · Post #57 » by **BoatsNZones** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 3:22 am

Bobbcats wrote:
The only player with clearly better advanced stats even after this slump is Jokic

Advanced *STAT* you mean

RAPTOR WAR is in it's own little world saying Curry is having a better season than the others. And Jokic who is on top of lots of them is #1 in WAR on the back of his world-beating defense, so gonna take it with a grain of salt

He’s also 2nd in EPM (1st WA), 3rd in VORP. 1st +-.
Catch up.

Peregrine01 · Post #58 » by **Peregrine01** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 3:30 am

He's just out of rhythm, which isn't really due to any physical decline, it just happens from time to time when you take as many 3s as he does.

Pelly24 · Post #59 » by **Pelly24** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 3:35 am

I think people just gotta accept that Steph will always live and die by his three-ball — and he shoots so well that that's usually fine. His midrange percentages and shots at the rim are way down . I think this is more due to a cyclical thing than anything else.

theoilslick · Post #60 » by **theoilslick** » Sun Jan 9, 2022 5:07 am

Rodwilliams wrote:
theoilslick wrote:
Riiight….In “3pt chucker” Curry’s 2020-21 RS his TS% 65.5, 3P% 42.1 and eFG% 60.1.

His “awkward” 2021-22 RS shows TS% 59.1, 3P% 38.8 and eFG% 54.5.

His 3P% is at its lowest, but compare this season’s point guards as they are 34.9 for the average 3P%. He’s still shooting 3s more efficiently than the average PG Joe.

And on behalf of analysts, please get off your FG% jockstrap. It’s inaccurate for measuring true offense efficiency.

No one said that Curry wasn’t the greatest shooter anymore. No one said that other players are better shooters than him. It’s pretty pointless comparing his 3 point percentage to other players when he’s already the unanimous GOAT shooter.

My response was to the critic who said “the reason his FG% is so low is because he's just become a complete one-dimensional 3pt chucker.” Chuckers are high volume, lower than average shooters. Curry is not.