Cam Reddish: NBA Vagabond

[Geaux_Hawks]

Graded it a C. Just not sure we got enough to justify it. My hope is that Travis is already working on another deal, and the team(s) involved just wanted to avoid Cam's future contract situation. Other than that, we lost a decent prospect in an attempt to reset a rookie contract.

He was clearly playing of his individual stats, but not for the team. His defensive potential was big, but he was making effort in defense, only focused on scoring. So I would have like a different story, but if it was going to be that kind of play, better trade him now.
He's just the opposite mentality of Huerter who said he didn't search to earn more as it was already a good contract, and with a team he wants to play for. Reddish agent certainly wants twice the salary of Huerter...

With the recent rumblings that he wanted out coming about, I understand the move more, but I can't fully say he was playing for himself only when TLC is starting and getting more minutes over him. Again, the move makes sense now, but a different story could've been told as you mentioned.

[Kampuchea]

Rumor/Talk around town:

The Reddish camp was adamant at exploring his trade value and Reddish was calling for opportunities to showcase his abilities (to perhaps increase his value). This led to some sloppy inefficient play and rubbed some teammates the wrong way (behind closed doors talk).

I was looking for the source article for this, is it a local paper?

It seems likely that he (or any player) would want to play more, especially in advance of a new contract. I am more wondering about the teammates being upset about it, where was that reported?

[jayu70]

Rumor/Talk around town:

The Reddish camp was adamant at exploring his trade value and Reddish was calling for opportunities to showcase his abilities (to perhaps increase his value). This led to some sloppy inefficient play and rubbed some teammates the wrong way (behind closed doors talk).

I was looking for the source article for this, is it a local paper?

It seems likely that he (or any player) would want to play more, especially in advance of a new contract. I am more wondering about the teammates being upset about it, where was that reported?

This is worded differently but similar sentiment, plus Gallos' comments from Monday makes sense now, something about the players (not) understanding the hierarchy of the team.
Regarding playing more with contract looming - Collins was in a similar situation last season and remained a professional, sacrificing his game to incorporate Capela. It appears Cam did the opposite. His defense what kept him on the floor his 1st 2 years despite his offensive struggles, was amazingly bad this season.

Why did the Hawks give up on Reddish so soon?
This is one question a lot of Hawks fans will want the answer to because he was a fan favorite in Atlanta. And the answer is simple:
Reddish didn’t want to be with the team anymore. He requested out several months ago, sources say, and most players knew he didn’t want to be there, which led to awkwardness inside the locker room.
The Hawks were going to trade Reddish as soon as a team met their asking price, and the Knicks were that team.

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[tbhawksfan1]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

[Geaux_Hawks]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

Knicks gave up a protected first(likely 18-22 this year or next year) for him. I'm sure they knew he wanted a bigger role and playing time before making the deal, and see the potential he has and will incorporate him. It's not like they have world beaters on the wing outside of Barrett.

[Kampuchea]

Spoiler:

Rumor/Talk around town:

I was looking for the source article for this, is it a local paper?

It seems likely that he (or any player) would want to play more, especially in advance of a new contract. I am more wondering about the teammates being upset about it, where was that reported?

This is worded differently but similar sentiment, plus Gallos' comments from Monday makes sense now, something about the players (not) understanding the hierarchy of the team.
Regarding playing more with contract looming - Collins was in a similar situation last season and remained a professional, sacrificing his game to incorporate Capela. It appears Cam did the opposite. His defense what kept him on the floor his 1st 2 years despite his offensive struggles, was amazingly bad this season.

Why did the Hawks give up on Reddish so soon?
This is one question a lot of Hawks fans will want the answer to because he was a fan favorite in Atlanta. And the answer is simple:
Reddish didn’t want to be with the team anymore. He requested out several months ago, sources say, and most players knew he didn’t want to be there, which led to awkwardness inside the locker room.
The Hawks were going to trade Reddish as soon as a team met their asking price, and the Knicks were that team.

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Thanks. I don't see this as a bad trade for either team given that information. He didn't want to be with the team because he wasn't finding the minutes he wanted, the Hawks needed to make a move rather than keep an unhappy Cam. They took the best offer available, a late first. The most valuable asset they received in the trade could be simply removing an unhappy player.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

He'll get minutes, RJ was our only small forward on the team (Knox can't guard 3s), we needed another big wing in the worst way.

[jayu70]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

He'll get minutes, RJ was our only small forward on the team (Knox can't guard 3s), we needed another big wing in the worst way.

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Also from the article regarding rotations - you guys will know better if accurate.

How does Reddish fit into the Knicks?
Chances are, Reddish slides in somewhere onto the bench — though working through the team’s rotation right now is a puzzle.

The Knicks acquired Reddish without freeing up playing time, which means the team will be crowded once everyone is healthy. So whose minutes does Reddish take? He was averaging 23.4 minutes per game so far this season in Atlanta to go with 11.9 points, 2.5 rebounds and 1.1 assists on 40/38/90 shooting.

The Knicks need offensive help. They are 23rd in points per possession. But when everyone is healthy, they have a lot of guys who like to create.

Once Derrick Rose and Kemba Walker are back (and Walker could return from his left knee injury soon), they man the point. Barrett is beginning to show why he went third in the same draft as Reddish. He’s averaging 24.6 points per game over his last seven games.

Alec Burks has filled in at point guard and creates off the dribble. So does second-year spark plug Immanuel Quickley. Evan Fournier just signed an expensive, four-year contract this past summer and has been locked in as a starter. Obi Toppin is barely a year removed from the Knicks selecting him with the No. 8 pick, and he has the second-best on-off numbers on the team behind Quickley. Julius Randle, meanwhile, is the league’s reigning Most Improved Player and the squad’s leading creator.

That’s eight players — 10 once you add the two centers, Mitchell Robinson and Nerlens Noel. Taj Gibson is on the outside. So is Grimes, who is knocking down 3s and playing physical defense during his first NBA season. No question, with the addition of Reddish, at least one of those 10 will join Gibson and Grimes on the bench.

Reddish will play. You don’t trade a first-round pick for him not to. The question then becomes, do the Knicks view Reddish’s ideal role as the one he filled in Atlanta — spot-up shooting and guarding different-sized wings? Or do they believe he can play more like his high-school self?

If the latter is the case, Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau hasn’t been shy about bold rotational decisions before. He could remove one of the other playmakers to make room for Reddish. He did, after all, just sit Walker for nine consecutive games before injuries and a COVID breakout thrust the four-time All-Star back onto the floor. Otherwise, they could slot Reddish into a more expanded version of the role Grimes has filled, hoping he can pester opposing wings and knock down 3s.

[tbhawksfan1]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

He'll get minutes, RJ was our only small forward on the team (Knox can't guard 3s), we needed another big wing in the worst way.

We'll see how it goes. Seems word is that the Hawks soured on him because he was only interested in getting his and didn't want to buy in to the team philosophy.

Schlenk had an interview recently that I didn't particularly like where he called the team out. I now think that he was referring directly to Cam.

He's playing for his next contract and he wants to get his numbers. Let's see if that continues in NY

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Yeah I guess it's a pretty good deal given what's come out. Cam has also had 2.5 seasons and still looks like a rookie. I don't want any player that thinks they're bigger than the team

Cam might just be a dumb kid. Just doesn't seem very mature. Not sure where the over-inflated ego comes from. He sucked at duke and pretty much sucked here.

Good luck getting minutes in a crowded NY rotation and dealing with no nonsense Thibs

He'll get minutes, RJ was our only small forward on the team (Knox can't guard 3s), we needed another big wing in the worst way.

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Also from the article regarding rotations - you guys will know better if accurate.

How does Reddish fit into the Knicks?
Chances are, Reddish slides in somewhere onto the bench — though working through the team’s rotation right now is a puzzle.

The Knicks acquired Reddish without freeing up playing time, which means the team will be crowded once everyone is healthy. So whose minutes does Reddish take? He was averaging 23.4 minutes per game so far this season in Atlanta to go with 11.9 points, 2.5 rebounds and 1.1 assists on 40/38/90 shooting.

The Knicks need offensive help. They are 23rd in points per possession. But when everyone is healthy, they have a lot of guys who like to create.

Once Derrick Rose and Kemba Walker are back (and Walker could return from his left knee injury soon), they man the point. Barrett is beginning to show why he went third in the same draft as Reddish. He’s averaging 24.6 points per game over his last seven games.

Alec Burks has filled in at point guard and creates off the dribble. So does second-year spark plug Immanuel Quickley. Evan Fournier just signed an expensive, four-year contract this past summer and has been locked in as a starter. Obi Toppin is barely a year removed from the Knicks selecting him with the No. 8 pick, and he has the second-best on-off numbers on the team behind Quickley. Julius Randle, meanwhile, is the league’s reigning Most Improved Player and the squad’s leading creator.

That’s eight players — 10 once you add the two centers, Mitchell Robinson and Nerlens Noel. Taj Gibson is on the outside. So is Grimes, who is knocking down 3s and playing physical defense during his first NBA season. No question, with the addition of Reddish, at least one of those 10 will join Gibson and Grimes on the bench.

Reddish will play. You don’t trade a first-round pick for him not to. The question then becomes, do the Knicks view Reddish’s ideal role as the one he filled in Atlanta — spot-up shooting and guarding different-sized wings? Or do they believe he can play more like his high-school self?

If the latter is the case, Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau hasn’t been shy about bold rotational decisions before. He could remove one of the other playmakers to make room for Reddish. He did, after all, just sit Walker for nine consecutive games before injuries and a COVID breakout thrust the four-time All-Star back onto the floor. Otherwise, they could slot Reddish into a more expanded version of the role Grimes has filled, hoping he can pester opposing wings and knock down 3s.

Thibs doesn't really have an offense, he relies on guys playing 1 on 1 to get things done, I think the long term development with Cam will depend on whether or not he can defend first, because Thibs will play you if you go hard on defense (Quentin Grimes) and give you a long leash on offense if you do.

I like Cam, even before he was traded I was hoping we'd be able to get him because we have only 1 player 6'6" that can guard on the perimeter. We had a lot of guards but only 1 legitimate small forward.

[jayu70]

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[jayu70]

I love Travis' transparency.

[jayu70]

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[HMFFL]

Quentin Grimes is who we originally wanted so we end up with Knox. I would have liked Quentin Grimes.

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[D21]

Thibs doesn't really have an offense, he relies on guys playing 1 on 1 to get things done, I think the long term development with Cam will depend on whether or not he can defend first, because Thibs will play you if you go hard on defense (Quentin Grimes) and give you a long leash on offense if you do.

I like Cam, even before he was traded I was hoping we'd be able to get him because we have only 1 player 6'6" that can guard on the perimeter. We had a lot of guards but only 1 legitimate small forward.

He can defend, at least he has some of the best tools to do it, but I hope for you that someone can convince him that he has to do at least the same effort on defense than on offense, because I smell something in what happened : since he asked to be traded months ago, it was not this season that changed the situation, and I remember that last summer, there were rumors about ATL wanting to trade him, which may in the end the opposite with Reddish wanted to be traded, but there was also the rumor that Schlenk was open to do it because he was not very happy with his agent, and I don't remember if it was a temporary one and if Cam got the previous one back, but it came to silence after that. Mixing all these rumors, I suspect that it's his agent that push him since last year, because he knows that offensive stats make more money, unfortunately.

I would have prefer to see him succeed, but after all, asking a trade after two seasons where he got 27 then 29min per game... it's not usual. And as he had the worst Def Net rating of the team last season, and the worst overall Net rating this season among the guys playing more than 10min, it's not like his impact on the floor will be missed, maybe the other guys playing in the same rotation than him will be happier and get better results.

Now, if he's totally happy anywhere else, he may end up being a great player... but if being happy is trying to score to get more money and don't caring about his impact on the team... he should find another agent.

[Jamaaliver]

So, this kid sat and watched all the success we'd experienced last year...and then instead of looking to make a role for himself on this winning squad -- he asked to go elsewhere?

That's incredibly selfish, shortsighted. Another Klutch Sports client getting terrible advice.

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[graymule]

Don’t know about you guys, but I will be rooting hard for Cam to fail miserably. F that selfish POS right in the other ear!

But, on the other hand, if he plays really good the remainder of the season the Knickerrbockers will be forced to pay him big $$$.

[shakes0]

Don’t know about you guys, but I will be rooting hard for Cam to fail miserably. F that selfish POS right in the other ear!

But, on the other hand, if he plays really good the remainder of the season the Knickerrbockers will be forced to pay him big $$$.

They’re the Knicks, they’ll pay him regardless.

[jayu70]

Cam Reddish: 'I feel like I can be a star'

“I feel like I can be a star,” Reddish said in his first comments as a Knick after his new team routed the Hawks at State Farm Arena. “I feel like I could be a legit star. That’s what I’m working to be. It’s pretty simple.”  It hasn’t been simple at all for Reddish, who has battled injuries and a glut of wings in Atlanta. He requested a trade before the 2021-22 season started.  The No. 10 pick in the 2019 draft has played in 118 career games in his 2½ seasons, averaging 11.1 points on a substandard 38.5 percent shooting.  “I think I’m still on track,” Reddish added in an interview with the Knicks’ three traveling beat writers in the arena. “I’ll continue to put the work in. I think I’m still there for sure.”

 

– via Marc Berman @ New York Post

According to multiple sources, Reddish and RJ Barrett weren’t especially close at Duke. Barrett and Zion Williamson were very tight and, according to sources, Reddish was on the outside looking in. But that was three years ago.  Barrett said all the expected platitudes after the Reddish trade, mentioning the two talked on the phone after the deal’s announcement.  “I mean, we talked for like five minute,” Reddish said when asked about that conversation. “It was quick because I was pretty busy that day. He was just saying come in ready to play hard. We were just catching up for the most part. Just coming in, working hard, getting used to the city.”

 

– via Marc Berman @ New York Post

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/knicks-cam-reddish-feels-like-he-can-be-a-legit-star-in-ny/

[iLLmatic860]

Cam Reddish: 'I feel like I can be a star'

“I feel like I can be a star,” Reddish said in his first comments as a Knick after his new team routed the Hawks at State Farm Arena. “I feel like I could be a legit star. That’s what I’m working to be. It’s pretty simple.”  It hasn’t been simple at all for Reddish, who has battled injuries and a glut of wings in Atlanta. He requested a trade before the 2021-22 season started.  The No. 10 pick in the 2019 draft has played in 118 career games in his 2½ seasons, averaging 11.1 points on a substandard 38.5 percent shooting.  “I think I’m still on track,” Reddish added in an interview with the Knicks’ three traveling beat writers in the arena. “I’ll continue to put the work in. I think I’m still there for sure.”

 

– via Marc Berman @ New York Post

According to multiple sources, Reddish and RJ Barrett weren’t especially close at Duke. Barrett and Zion Williamson were very tight and, according to sources, Reddish was on the outside looking in. But that was three years ago.  Barrett said all the expected platitudes after the Reddish trade, mentioning the two talked on the phone after the deal’s announcement.  “I mean, we talked for like five minute,” Reddish said when asked about that conversation. “It was quick because I was pretty busy that day. He was just saying come in ready to play hard. We were just catching up for the most part. Just coming in, working hard, getting used to the city.”

 

– via Marc Berman @ New York Post

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/knicks-cam-reddish-feels-like-he-can-be-a-legit-star-in-ny/

Take the RJ and Cam article with a grain and salt. Berman is notorious for being click baity

Anyways curious to see how Hawks fans feel about this? I havent seen enough Cam to see star potential but from what ive seen, I personally have never seen it but I hope I’m wrong