2022 NBA Draft

Draft talk all year round

Moderators: Duke4life831, Marcus

BostonCouchGM
Head Coach
Posts: 6,714
And1: 4,859
Joined: Jun 07, 2018

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1281 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:43 pm

Sharpe is a top 7 pick, almost guaranteed, should he come out in 2022. 2023 is a deeper class so he could drop. He should come out.
SeattleJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,341
And1: 2,717
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1282 » by SeattleJazzFan » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:16 am

he looks impressive. if he plays this year in just a few games and plays well, it could have a kyrie effect and vault him to #1 overall - not saying kyrie was vaulted to #1 as i don't remember where he was projected before he played a game at duke, rather just saying kyrie played about 8 games but lit it up and it at least solidified him as the #1 overall pick.

if he plays and struggles, imo, it doesn't hurt him as people will excuse it as being a frosh with very little games/practice under his belt. he should play and make a decision from there on whether he wants to come out. this is a good UK team for a scoring/shooting/athletic wing to come in and make an impact on.
NYPiston
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,805
And1: 4,358
Joined: Jun 21, 2019
       

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1283 » by NYPiston » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:42 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:If your projected in the top 5 of the NBA draft you enter the NBA draft. Its one of the easiest decisions in the history of man.


It's pretty much a no brainer. There's almost no upside for him to bypass this draft and tons of potential downside with play lowering his stock, potential injury etc.

I'm sure he and his team will put out feelers to find out where his draft stock is at. If right now, he's projected as a top 5 pick just based on projection and his high school tape, I wouldn't even play a game with Kentucky even if Cal allowed it. I'd start prep for this draft and go from there.

Also, as a Pistons fan, I'm really rooting for him to enter this draft to add another high upside player into the mix.
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,097
And1: 70,260
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1284 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:09 pm

he's gonna enter if he's actually eligible, I believe the NBA is still reviewing, no reason not to enter really, almost zero upside to staying, he's a top5 lock and next year's class is a much stronger guard class @ top.
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
ItsDanger
RealGM
Posts: 28,773
And1: 25,963
Joined: Nov 01, 2008

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1285 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:26 pm

https://www.zagsblog.com/2022/01/21/john-calipari-says-shaedon-sharpe-plans-on-being-here-next-year/

That was Sharpe's intention before getting there (from what I was told) but money talks and if he's projected top 5, we know how it usually turns out. Personally I hope he stays 1 year. If he enters, his rookie year is going to be rough without having 1 season of top competition to prepare for pros.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,793
And1: 22,842
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1286 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:09 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=20
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,097
And1: 70,260
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1287 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:17 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20


pure filth, man I love this guy
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,097
And1: 70,260
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1288 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:18 pm

ItsDanger wrote:https://www.zagsblog.com/2022/01/21/john-calipari-says-shaedon-sharpe-plans-on-being-here-next-year/

That was Sharpe's intention before getting there (from what I was told) but money talks and if he's projected top 5, we know how it usually turns out. Personally I hope he stays 1 year. If he enters, his rookie year is going to be rough without having 1 season of top competition to prepare for pros.


Sharpe's gone
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
WargamesX
RealGM
Posts: 10,843
And1: 8,101
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
   

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1289 » by WargamesX » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:28 am

clyde21 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20


pure filth, man I love this guy


He shot reminds me so much of Danny Granger’s but he is bigger and healthier. He’s going to be a star. Especially if teams bring him up as a wing. He’s a mismatch for most teams with maybe 10 guys in the league who could try to guard him one on one.
Matthew 6:5
Luke 15:3-7
User avatar
zimpy27
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 45,741
And1: 44,012
Joined: Jul 13, 2014

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1290 » by zimpy27 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:54 pm

WargamesX wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20


pure filth, man I love this guy


He shot reminds me so much of Danny Granger’s but he is bigger and healthier. He’s going to be a star. Especially if teams bring him up as a wing. He’s a mismatch for most teams with maybe 10 guys in the league who could try to guard him one on one.


Reminds me of Tracy McGrady but I see the Granger comp.

Either way he look good
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,097
And1: 70,260
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1291 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:46 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
pure filth, man I love this guy


He shot reminds me so much of Danny Granger’s but he is bigger and healthier. He’s going to be a star. Especially if teams bring him up as a wing. He’s a mismatch for most teams with maybe 10 guys in the league who could try to guard him one on one.


Reminds me of Tracy McGrady but I see the Granger comp.

Either way he look good


Tmac comp is interesting
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
yoyoboy
RealGM
Posts: 15,866
And1: 19,077
Joined: Jan 29, 2015
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1292 » by yoyoboy » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:42 pm

I don't see TMac at all. Jabari is a PF. A mobile one for sure, but still a PF. He doesn't have close to the ballhandling, athleticism, or passing that Tracy had.
User avatar
zimpy27
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 45,741
And1: 44,012
Joined: Jul 13, 2014

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1293 » by zimpy27 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:28 am

yoyoboy wrote:I don't see TMac at all. Jabari is a PF. A mobile one for sure, but still a PF. He doesn't have close to the ballhandling, athleticism, or passing that Tracy had.


I think TMac would be a PF in this league, at least an SF. But I was really talking about the shooting and scoring bag.
As for total game I think athleticism is a wash when you consider size difference but agree that ballhandling and passing aren't at Tracy's level yet. But TMac develop it, maybe Jabari can develop some too. If he is going to be a great scorer in the league then you probably want him handling the ball a bit more.
"Let's play some basketball!" - Fergie
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,097
And1: 70,260
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1294 » by clyde21 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:32 am

yoyoboy wrote:I don't see TMac at all. Jabari is a PF. A mobile one for sure, but still a PF. He doesn't have close to the ballhandling, athleticism, or passing that Tracy had.


i can see bigger lineups where Jab can slide down the 3 in some match ups or sets

and Jabari doesn't jump out the gym but his functional athleticism is starting to get real underrated.
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
CptCrunch
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,675
And1: 4,697
Joined: Jun 30, 2016
   

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1295 » by CptCrunch » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:03 am

Jabari Smith has to be a mobile stretch PF with strong roll man center.

His natural position is a SF, but he is a bit too slow to play SF in the league. He doesn't rebound well even in college (6.3 REB) so I have a difficult time seeing him playing effective PF early on in his career. His handles are good for a PF, but are lacking for a ball handling forward.

You usually get a 10-30% discount in college rebounding numbers when you translate to the NBA. This is not to say that Jabari cannot rebound or will not develop rebounding instincts/ability/habits.

Realistically speaking, you will be living with a 15 pts/5 reb 6'10" shooting PF early on? Does this merit the #1 pick (or the consensus #1 pick).

It is a solid no for me. Chet and Paolo both project better on the upside. I rather take Paolo with hopes that he can initiate secondary offense or take Chet and hope that he can translate defensively like Mobley.
tundraknight
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,403
And1: 4,068
Joined: Sep 29, 2008

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1296 » by tundraknight » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:25 am

Rashard Lewis is the best Jabari Smith comparison I’ve seen so far. But with a higher ceiling imo.
BlazersBroncos
RealGM
Posts: 12,448
And1: 10,012
Joined: Oct 27, 2016

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1297 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:48 pm

tundraknight wrote:Rashard Lewis is the best Jabari Smith comparison I’ve seen so far. But with a higher ceiling imo.


Ya in terms of physical build and style thats the comparison, but I think Smith is much hungrier than Rashard ever was.
User avatar
GSWFan1994
General Manager
Posts: 8,049
And1: 16,684
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
 

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1298 » by GSWFan1994 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:50 pm

tundraknight wrote:Rashard Lewis is the best Jabari Smith comparison I’ve seen so far. But with a higher ceiling imo.


That's a very good comparison indeed.

In the modern NBA, I think Jabari is definitely a 4, and will play some small ball 5 in the future too.

His rebounding numbers are a concern, though.
BostonCouchGM
Head Coach
Posts: 6,714
And1: 4,859
Joined: Jun 07, 2018

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1299 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:22 pm

tundraknight wrote:Rashard Lewis is the best Jabari Smith comparison I’ve seen so far. But with a higher ceiling imo.


THAT is exactly who I was trying to think of. Thank you. Kinda stiff, upright, limited athlete, but ability to shoot the rock and get his jumper off with ease. Solid but unspectacular in every other phase of the game. Not a #1 but a very good #3 with #2 upside, similar to Klay, Jaylen and Middleton. The way people are talking they think he's KD or something. But Lewis in today's game is a problem like I believe Smith will be. I feel like people haven't been paying attention to what type of players are stars in today's league though. You have to be able to take guys off the dribble and get your own shot. Right or wrong, it's all about the high screen and playing off that. Smith won't be doing that. He'll be playing off a star who will be. Banchero will. Ivey will. Sharpe will. It doesn't mean he's not a matchup nightmare it just means he has somewhat limited impact because the ball won't be in his hands. Maybe I'm wrong and he'll bust his hump to improve his handle considerably but I doubt it which is why he's not top 3 on my board with Banchero, Ivey and Chet.
SeattleJazzFan
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,341
And1: 2,717
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1300 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:07 pm

agree with the lewis comp. he's in love with the jumper and doesn't rebound. very skilled but soft.

having said that, he's so young - not sure it's fair or possible to make a judgment like that at this point - these guys can become entirely different players than what we're seeing right now.

Return to NBA Draft