What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team?

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What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#1 » by asero » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:19 am

Can the two-way player be traded?
He cannot sign with the other team that wants him since he is bounded by the two-way contract.

What can be done here?
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#2 » by asero » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:25 am

Say one contender wants Amir Coffey? How can they get him?
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#3 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:25 am

Two way contract is still a contract. I’m not 100% certain, but my guess is he can be traded just like standard contract guys, then they’re just assigned to the new teams G League team.
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#4 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:26 am

asero wrote:Can the two-way player be traded?
He cannot sign with the other team that wants him since he is bounded by the two-way contract.

What can be done here?
You can look up the CBA and find out yourself, my dude.

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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#5 » by rate_ » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:29 am

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Post#6 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:33 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
asero wrote:Can the two-way player be traded?
He cannot sign with the other team that wants him since he is bounded by the two-way contract.

What can be done here?
You can look up the CBA and find out yourself, my dude.

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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#7 » by AussieCeltic » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:59 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
asero wrote:Can the two-way player be traded?
He cannot sign with the other team that wants him since he is bounded by the two-way contract.

What can be done here?
You can look up the CBA and find out yourself, my dude.

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Pretty **** post coming from someone who has a small post count over 8 years. It's a good question for a basketball message board and spending 30 mins going through the CBA for an answer wouldn't be high on many peoples to do list.

Warning - don't bring up someone's post count. That's irrelevant and unnecessary antagonistic.
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#8 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:05 am

AussieCeltic wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
asero wrote:Can the two-way player be traded?
He cannot sign with the other team that wants him since he is bounded by the two-way contract.

What can be done here?
You can look up the CBA and find out yourself, my dude.

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Pretty **** post coming from someone who has a small post count over 8 years. It's a good question for a basketball message board and spending 30 mins going through the CBA for an answer wouldn't be high on many peoples to do list.


My post count is wholly irrelevant. That's a cute non sequitur though.

That said, I've been around a LOT longer than what my post count would indicate as a casual reader and just never felt the need to set up an account. That said, I have other things to do than visit a message board and post about hoops all day, every day. That's no slight to those who wish to do precisely that, but I've got other things to do with my time. Your mileage may vary.

What it amounts to is, in a word, laziness. OP could have done a cursory search on Google or any other engine of his choice, pulled up the CBA, used the search feature in his browser, and found the relevant section.

If it took more than five minutes all in, you're not trying.

Come on, dude. You have to do better than that.

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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#9 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:10 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:You can look up the CBA and find out yourself, my dude.

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Pretty **** post coming from someone who has a small post count over 8 years. It's a good question for a basketball message board and spending 30 mins going through the CBA for an answer wouldn't be high on many peoples to do list.


My post count is wholly irrelevant. That's a cute non sequitur though.

That said, I've been around a LOT longer than what my post count would indicate as a casual reader and just never felt the need to set up an account. That said, I have other things to do than visit a message board and post about hoops all day, every day. That's no slight to those who wish to do precisely that, but I've got other things to do with my time. Your mileage may vary.

What it amounts to is, in a word, laziness. OP could have done a cursory search on Google or any other engine of his choice, pulled up the CBA, used the search feature in his browser, and found the relevant section.

If it took more than five minutes all in, you're not trying.

Come on, dude. You have to do better than that.

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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#10 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:21 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
Pretty **** post coming from someone who has a small post count over 8 years. It's a good question for a basketball message board and spending 30 mins going through the CBA for an answer wouldn't be high on many peoples to do list.


My post count is wholly irrelevant. That's a cute non sequitur though.

That said, I've been around a LOT longer than what my post count would indicate as a casual reader and just never felt the need to set up an account. That said, I have other things to do than visit a message board and post about hoops all day, every day. That's no slight to those who wish to do precisely that, but I've got other things to do with my time. Your mileage may vary.

What it amounts to is, in a word, laziness. OP could have done a cursory search on Google or any other engine of his choice, pulled up the CBA, used the search feature in his browser, and found the relevant section.

If it took more than five minutes all in, you're not trying.

Come on, dude. You have to do better than that.

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Or, the answer by someone Knowledgable could be posted for all.

Keep your post count where it is please and thank you


There's a difference between discussion and laziness. This thread feels more like the latter, along with your attempt at some semblance of wit.

This took all of two seconds, quite literally:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/11/2021-22-nba-two-way-contract-conversions.html

FFS. You, and the OP, are welcome.

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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#11 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:22 am

Two-way players can be traded (30 days after signing the two-way contract.)
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Post#12 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:22 am

Can someone just explain this quickly rather than making me go to cbafaq
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Post#13 » by alphatron10 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:25 am

I only remember one two-way player being traded and that was Johnathan Motley in 2018. He was traded with the rights for a foreign guy in exchange for the draft rights to some foreign guy. Not sure how it would work for a team trading a for a two-way guy that they want on a regular contract but they already have two two-way guys on the team.
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#14 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:25 am

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-trade-deadline-explained

WAITING PERIOD FOR NEW CONTRACTS

A draft rookie who signs a standard NBA player contract or any player who signs a Two-Way Contract may not be traded until 30 days following the date on which he signed his contract.

A free agent who signs a standard NBA player contract (or a player who signs, or is converted to, a standard NBA player contract while under a Two-Way Contract) cannot be traded for three months following the date the contract is signed or until December 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which the contract is signed, whichever is later.


Looks like they can be traded. Don't know what the rules are beyond this please do not ask me.
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Post#15 » by K_chile22 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:32 am

Sixerscan wrote:https://www.nba.com/news/nba-trade-deadline-explained

WAITING PERIOD FOR NEW CONTRACTS

A draft rookie who signs a standard NBA player contract or any player who signs a Two-Way Contract may not be traded until 30 days following the date on which he signed his contract.

A free agent who signs a standard NBA player contract (or a player who signs, or is converted to, a standard NBA player contract while under a Two-Way Contract) cannot be traded for three months following the date the contract is signed or until December 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which the contract is signed, whichever is later.


Looks like they can be traded. Don't know what the rules are beyond this please do not ask me.
Really aren't any. They count as nothing in terms of salary matching, but receiving team can't have more than 2 two ways at any point in time, so they'd either have to clear the two way spot before the trade or send out a two way guy themselves
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Post#16 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:35 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
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SkyBill40 wrote:
My post count is wholly irrelevant. That's a cute non sequitur though.

That said, I've been around a LOT longer than what my post count would indicate as a casual reader and just never felt the need to set up an account. That said, I have other things to do than visit a message board and post about hoops all day, every day. That's no slight to those who wish to do precisely that, but I've got other things to do with my time. Your mileage may vary.

What it amounts to is, in a word, laziness. OP could have done a cursory search on Google or any other engine of his choice, pulled up the CBA, used the search feature in his browser, and found the relevant section.

If it took more than five minutes all in, you're not trying.

Come on, dude. You have to do better than that.

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Or, the answer by someone Knowledgable could be posted for all.

Keep your post count where it is please and thank you


There's a difference between discussion and laziness. This thread feels more like the latter, along with your attempt at some semblance of wit.

This took all of two seconds, quite literally:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/11/2021-22-nba-two-way-contract-conversions.html

FFS. You, and the OP, are welcome.

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Maybe you should have spent more than two seconds on it, since your link says nothing about trading a two-way player. Conversions are different than trades.
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Post#17 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:40 am

xdrta+ wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Or, the answer by someone Knowledgable could be posted for all.

Keep your post count where it is please and thank you


There's a difference between discussion and laziness. This thread feels more like the latter, along with your attempt at some semblance of wit.

This took all of two seconds, quite literally:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/11/2021-22-nba-two-way-contract-conversions.html

FFS. You, and the OP, are welcome.

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Maybe you should have spent more than two seconds on it, since your link says nothing about trading a two-way player. Conversions are different than trades.
It's relative to the process of making a trade, which was the basis for the thread, as the contract has to be converted in order to do so. That link was but one of a few I saw and the first I grabbed as an example.

I could have taken it directly from the CBA as someone else did, but I had no intention of doing any more work for someone who didn't do any to begin with and before posting the thread.



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Post#18 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:42 am

A two-way contract does not have to be converted to a standard contract to be traded, so I don't know what you are on about.
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Re: What happens when a team wants a Two-Way Player from another team? 

Post#19 » by shangrila » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:46 am

Sixerscan wrote:https://www.nba.com/news/nba-trade-deadline-explained

WAITING PERIOD FOR NEW CONTRACTS

A draft rookie who signs a standard NBA player contract or any player who signs a Two-Way Contract may not be traded until 30 days following the date on which he signed his contract.

A free agent who signs a standard NBA player contract (or a player who signs, or is converted to, a standard NBA player contract while under a Two-Way Contract) cannot be traded for three months following the date the contract is signed or until December 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which the contract is signed, whichever is later.


Looks like they can be traded. Don't know what the rules are beyond this please do not ask me.

AFAIK they're still counted as 2-way players, so the regular rules apply...essentially you need space for them. Apart from that? I don't think there's anything more to it.

Teams just don't do it because there's no value in it. Most 2-way guys don't make an impact and the few that do...well, why would you give that up?
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Post#20 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:51 am

xdrta+ wrote:A two-way contract does not have to be converted to a standard contract to be traded, so I don't know what you are on about.
Never said I was an expert on the CBA nor even insinuated anything to that end.

There are two lines in there about two way contracts, one which talks about when they can be traded and another which talks a two way contract being converted to a standard contract. Both have different guidelines and time frames. Shangrila has the deets in his post above this one.

Again, we're doing work the OP could have and should have done. Whatever.


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