trwi7 wrote:I wish I had the time to psychoanalyze all the **** that you guys somehow manage to.

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trwi7 wrote:I wish I had the time to psychoanalyze all the **** that you guys somehow manage to.
Bucksmaniac wrote:I'm sorry, but I'm starting to sour on Giannis
Bucksmaniac wrote:I'm sorry, but I'm starting to sour on Giannis
Profound23 wrote:leroyjw10 wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:The two biggest problems we saw with Rodgers are:
1) He's clearly lost a bit from where he was in the 2010-2017 period. I don't put any of those playoff failures on him. He did his part. But at the moment, he's clearly not in the league of the guys we saw yesterday.
2) When that snow started and the field got slippery, he looked like he wanted to go home. Feels like the weather is a problem for him. I remember him stinking it up on that polar vortex game against the Cardinals in 2018. He'd do great for a dome club right now.
I'll add a third. He's too reliant on Davante. Davante is a magician on the field, but Rodgers has a severe case of tunnel vision with him out there.
That's actually the biggest issue for the past few years. Part of that is on the Packers not getting him talent. Maybe if we trade up for Jefferson instead of drafting Love it's another story......or maybe Rodgers doesn't trust JJeff and keeps passing to Adams while we all complain about how we drafted a bust of a WR.
I guess we will never know.
leroyjw10 wrote:
Rodgers has, I believe, historically been pretty darn good when Davante is sidelined, therefore forcing Rodgers to look toward others. For example, last year they were missing Davante against the Saints, but the Packers put up 37 points with Lazard going for 147 yards.
th87 wrote:Iheartfootball wrote:th87 wrote:
Dates back to college too (see the USC game). Almost like a "fear of success" mental block (this is a thing). On the cusp of winning, your mind sabotages you, and you press where you shouldn't, or unconsciously go into bad habits you successfully avoided when the pressure was less.
Remember early career Rodgers? Great at tying the game, only to have the defense lose. But when in position for a walk-off win, he failed frequently. Over time, he got much better (increased reps surely), but in the playoffs, you can't really practice or face such situations often (annually at best), so he never got used to overcoming them.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
This is indeed a thing. I mean, I’m not saying Rodgers does it but addicts self sabotage themselves all the time. They don’t believe they deserve sobriety. It’s deep core of shame. A flawed generational narrative.
Incidentally, that’s a similar profile to someone with narcissistic BPD. They have a deep shame core and over compensate with grandiosity. Over simplifying quite a bit.
I think this fits.
It just seems crazy that he has so many games where the team gets way down, and he leads a furious comeback to get close, but on the last go-ahead drive, he fails. So many examples of having to settle for a FG when a TD would end the game.
And I'd also theorize that his confidence is dependent on the team he'll face. He kind of admitted it this year by saying he owns the Bears. Which means he *knows* he owns the Bears, i.e. he's aware of his dominance, which informs his mental state when playing them, which in turn means that he'll play confidently. And if that's the case, then he knows the 49ers kind of "own" him based on his poor record against them, and so now, he approached the game with an "I don't own you" attitude, which manifested into every uncharacteristic oddity we saw (his ball placement and decisions are never this bad).
stillgotgame wrote:th87 wrote:Iheartfootball wrote:
This is indeed a thing. I mean, I’m not saying Rodgers does it but addicts self sabotage themselves all the time. They don’t believe they deserve sobriety. It’s deep core of shame. A flawed generational narrative.
Incidentally, that’s a similar profile to someone with narcissistic BPD. They have a deep shame core and over compensate with grandiosity. Over simplifying quite a bit.
I think this fits.
It just seems crazy that he has so many games where the team gets way down, and he leads a furious comeback to get close, but on the last go-ahead drive, he fails. So many examples of having to settle for a FG when a TD would end the game.
And I'd also theorize that his confidence is dependent on the team he'll face. He kind of admitted it this year by saying he owns the Bears. Which means he *knows* he owns the Bears, i.e. he's aware of his dominance, which informs his mental state when playing them, which in turn means that he'll play confidently. And if that's the case, then he knows the 49ers kind of "own" him based on his poor record against them, and so now, he approached the game with an "I don't own you" attitude, which manifested into every uncharacteristic oddity we saw (his ball placement and decisions are never this bad).
Sounds to me like you’re talking about MLF, not Rodgers. Complete meltdown again in the playoffs - horrible decisions on who to play on the offensive line, imagination gone from play calling and total dysfunction on special teams.
Keep blaming Rodgers though if it makes you feel good.
stillgotgame wrote:th87 wrote:Iheartfootball wrote:
This is indeed a thing. I mean, I’m not saying Rodgers does it but addicts self sabotage themselves all the time. They don’t believe they deserve sobriety. It’s deep core of shame. A flawed generational narrative.
Incidentally, that’s a similar profile to someone with narcissistic BPD. They have a deep shame core and over compensate with grandiosity. Over simplifying quite a bit.
I think this fits.
It just seems crazy that he has so many games where the team gets way down, and he leads a furious comeback to get close, but on the last go-ahead drive, he fails. So many examples of having to settle for a FG when a TD would end the game.
And I'd also theorize that his confidence is dependent on the team he'll face. He kind of admitted it this year by saying he owns the Bears. Which means he *knows* he owns the Bears, i.e. he's aware of his dominance, which informs his mental state when playing them, which in turn means that he'll play confidently. And if that's the case, then he knows the 49ers kind of "own" him based on his poor record against them, and so now, he approached the game with an "I don't own you" attitude, which manifested into every uncharacteristic oddity we saw (his ball placement and decisions are never this bad).
Sounds to me like you’re talking about MLF, not Rodgers. Complete meltdown again in the playoffs - horrible decisions on who to play on the offensive line, imagination gone from play calling and total dysfunction on special teams.
Keep blaming Rodgers though if it makes you feel good.
Iheartfootball wrote:I don't think it's binary. Plenty of blame to go around. MLF, Rodgers, Lewis fumble, Jones run before the half, Special Teams. It was a collective effort.