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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#241 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#242 » by M-C-G » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:31 pm

ReddRum wrote:Ok so if we get far enough under the cap to tag and trade Adams, what could we realistically get back from the Broncos for him and Rodgers as a package?


Denver has pick 9, two seconds and two thirds in this draft, then I would assume a 1st and either second or third in the next draft. Might depend on which players come back in the deal, but if purely picks, I think it would be on the table for both Rodgers and Adams.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#243 » by Daver » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:45 pm

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ReddRum wrote:Ok so if we get far enough under the cap to tag and trade Adams, what could we realistically get back from the Broncos for him and Rodgers as a package?


Denver has pick 9, two seconds and two thirds in this draft, then I would assume a 1st and either second or third in the next draft. Might depend on which players come back in the deal, but if purely picks, I think it would be on the table for both Rodgers and Adams.


No way GB doesnt get back a 1st in this years draft a tagged adams alone is worth 2 1st round picks.
Im doing 2 1sts 2nds and a combo of 2 players simmons surtain fant chubb jeudy.Not trading rogers n adams for 2 2nd n 3rds
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#244 » by M-C-G » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:00 pm

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Denver has pick 9, two seconds and two thirds in this draft,


No way GB doesnt get back a 1st in this years draft


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#245 » by ReddRum » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:27 pm

Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#246 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:58 pm

ReddRum wrote:Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?


I don't think we get anything close to that.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#247 » by M-C-G » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:06 pm

ReddRum wrote:Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?


Roughly speaking I have Surtain worth a first and Jeudy a second.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#249 » by ReddRum » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:24 pm

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ReddRum wrote:Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?


I don't think we get anything close to that.


Ok, so in your opinion what would we get for Rodgers and Adams?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#250 » by Treebeard » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

I have no idea on individual players or picks could come back in a Rogers+ trade, but I'd bet the "buyer" would view their SB window as being narrow, 2-3 years; so they're likely to want to retain quality right-now players that are on their rosters already. I'd guess they would be more inclined to part with draft picks, or roster players viewed as projects.

Denver seems most logical, but I wouldn't rule out the Steelers either.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#251 » by DrWood » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:45 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#252 » by DrWood » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:47 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Yes but the big hurdle is you’d have to have enough space under the cap prior to the new league year getting underway. It’s doable but would mean jettisoning just about everyone (Z, Preston, Cobb, Crosby, Lowry, Turner)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think trading Rodgers first would drop his cap hit by about 20 mil making it much easier to get to a point where they can tag Adams.

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Unfortunately that’s not the case. They can’t trade Rodgers until the new league year begins. As of now they’re about $40 million over the cap and they have to be under before the new league year begins.

Are you sure about that? They can't tag and trade Adams until the new league year begins, but Rodgers is under contract for next year.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#253 » by El Duderino » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:07 pm

ReddRum wrote:Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?


Denver isn't including Surtain in any potential trade for Rodgers.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#254 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:09 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think trading Rodgers first would drop his cap hit by about 20 mil making it much easier to get to a point where they can tag Adams.

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Unfortunately that’s not the case. They can’t trade Rodgers until the new league year begins. As of now they’re about $40 million over the cap and they have to be under before the new league year begins.

Are you sure about that? They can't tag and trade Adams until the new league year begins, but Rodgers is under contract for next year.
What he's saying is Rodgers can't be officially traded until the start of the new league year so if that's the route this goes then his cap number will hit at 42 mil when the league year starts. And they would need to be 20ish mil under when the new league year starts (including that 42 mil to Rodgers) to tag Adams. Lots of guys would need to be cut to get to that number, now once the trades actually happened the pack would instantly have about 40 mil in cap space (this includes 20 mil in dead Rodgers money).

It's much easier to tag Adams if Rodgers wants to stay because if he stays he'll sign an extension that will reduce his cap number. But if he stays they probably just sign Adams to a long term deal anyway.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#255 » by El Duderino » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:20 pm

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No way GB doesnt get back a 1st in this years draft a tagged adams alone is worth 2 1st round picks.


Adams alone isn't worth two first round picks given his contract status. There is no way that i can see Devante agreeing to go to any new team without getting a long term contract and he'll likely demand to be the highest paid WR in the game. Expecting multiple high picks like that for the right to pay Adams 28-30 million per isn't going to happen.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#257 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:09 am

I think Green Bay would get more with two seperate Rodgers and Adams deals.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#258 » by LikeABosh » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:07 am

Adams wants $30 million...yuck

Can't be spending a third of the cap on 2 offensive players when it's clearly not enough to get it done
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

Post#259 » by th87 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:26 am

ReddRum wrote:
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ReddRum wrote:Ok so Rodgers & DaVante for: lets say Jeudy and Surtain are included. So how many picks would more than likely be included on top of that? 3 firsts and a 2nd?


I don't think we get anything close to that.


Ok, so in your opinion what would we get for Rodgers and Adams?


I would be surprised if we got more than two firsts for Rodgers. He might retire the next year, and the Broncos aren't one piece away. Stafford is younger, and the Rams were far closer to contention when that trade was made, and they're a lot more "all in" than the Broncos.

I don't think we get much for Adams. Suitors lining up for the privilege to pay a WR $30M annually won't be plentiful.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Hackett to Denver 

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