We are not going to win a championship this year

[GYK]

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So long way of saying there’s no problems with the roster.

There is no problem with the roster when mostly healthy. And I mean, we have evidence of this. Before KD got hurt we were in 1st. When the Big 3 all played together we were 2-0 with a 30 point blowout of the Bulls. past 2 years with the big 3 we are 18-6 including 5-1 in the playoffs and we beat the Bucks by literally 50 points at home before Kyrie went down.

Well when you know the FO WONT pay to improve nor move on from the guys they like I guess you justify. That’s good fan work. I just want to win. I think we have the makings of a dynasty up top and the only thing holding us back is having a terrible supporting cast that don’t fulfill any roles such as defense, rebounding nor a team of spacing on the bench.

We have more spacing then anyone in the league when healthy. We can bring arguably the 2 best spot up shooters in the NBA off the bench (Harris/Mills) when healthy. How is that not having spacing on the bench? We have Bembry, Johnson, and Claxton. thats 1 guy at each level as a role defender. We have LMA/Sharpe as guys who can rebound.

using the TPE on some role shooter or rebounder will provide next to nothing while costing tens of millions in taxes.

We need KD back. If Joe is going to be out another couple months then yeah we probably need a forbes type to hold us over. We can do that at the deadline or in the buyout.

but get out of here if you want to tell me:

Harden | Kyrie | Edwards | KD | Claxton
Mills | Harris | Bembry | Johnson | LMA

is not a top 2 contender with elite shooting and spacing and top 10 defense.

I don’t care if we blew out the Bucks. Adjustments happen and before Kyrie was Zaza’d they clearly were in control.
I don’t care we were 1st in the conference when we were clearly not the best team in the league. Warriors didn’t have Klay like we didn’t have Kyrie.

LMA isn’t a good rebounder and isn’t a rim protector relying on him for that role is just foolish. Sharpe is a rookie who knows what will happen. Same with Kessler.

Very very interesting. Joe is a bench player in your dream scenario. That’s so odd. I mean it’s obvious Kessler fulfills the role needed for this team. Still core member for the foreseeable future. Not even a starter. Is he closer? That role is no longer fulfilled in the crunch. Is our last core member even a 30mpg player? Certainly not 36mpg. It has nothing to do with Joe it’s just he doesn’t fulfill the role what’s needed for being a core member with this 3.
Also interesting is Bruce and Carter(understandable) aren’t in this. Let alone Blake. Paul obviously gone. Johnson’s and Bembry(who I like and think will get significant time if there’s no moves made) made it to the optimal rotation. Bruce is out along with Blake and Carter. After Joe and Patty those are our meatiest contracts. Bruce and Carter are 8+ million. Are we just wasting that on the bench? I mean we should certainly do something with it. If Kessler is in foul trouble that role completely vanished from our team who already, even in optimal scenarios, relies on Nic and LMA for rim protection, post defense and rebounding. Also no mention of Cam and Sharpe in the optimal lineup. So really are luxury pieces even to you.

Idk to me it’s pretty simple.
Joe moves for a defensive catalyst player who fits and makes sense to be a 36mpg player like his contract warrants(any other team Joe will be fine. Whatever position is fine. But a core member who starts and finish. We have a 6th man in Patty. A 7th in LMA.
Move Carter & Bruce for the best 3&D wing or big you can.
Use the TPE’s to bring in 3&D wings or bigs moving Bembry/Johnson back to the end of bench/in case of emergency(rest, COVID, injury) spot.

I said 3&D wing or big a lot. A lot of OR’s there. That’s because Joe has to be a starter/closer player. A real 36mpg guy. He has to lock up 4 out of the 5 starters spots on this team. He just doesn’t. Great player. Seem like a nice guy. He however just doesn’t fulfill the role needed next to Harden-Kyrie-Durant as a core member. As a role player? Obviously. Look at Patty thrive. As the fourth highest contract. Not at all.
If they made the necessary decision the domino effect of what/who would be needed would streamline this and future teams.

[MrDollarBills]

As of today the Suns, Warriors, Bucks, Heat look stronger than us. Defense matters.

If we can get the entire crew back(KY+ Harden + KD + Joe + Clax) offensively we are just at another level which makes us favorites in my eyes. I still believe a chip is possible, but we aren't the favorites like last season.

With KD/Joe/Kyrie back we are the overwhelming favorites. the GOAT offense with a top 10-12 defense.

Miami is the only team who could even give us a run.

With Nash in charge and Kyrie part time, I can see us getting beat in the first round.

[MrDollarBills]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

[Claud]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

[NetsWorld]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

We have been talking about injuries and Availability all season long, why would it change come playoff time? We will never be whole.

[Jay555]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

We have been talking about injuries and Availability all season long, why would it change come playoff time? We will never be whole.

Because basketball god and luck will be on our side lol.

I chuckle so hard when I am typing this. Nah, luck ain't with us.

[Prokorov]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

We could not win a game on the road trip and still not fall to 7.

Hornets schedule is crazy hard coming up. heat x2, bulls, cavs x2, Grizzlies, bucks.

no chance we end the season in the play in.

[Educator]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

This is not true. If the Nets fall to 7, which is very possible, they play the 8th seed in one game to determine who is the 7 seed for the playoffs. Kyrie would not play in that game since it would be a home game.

If the Nets lose, then they play the winner of the 9 vs 10 game for the 8th seed. Again, Kyrie is not playing in that game since it would be at home.

Missing the playoffs entirely is a real possibility.

[MrDollarBills]

The chances of the Nets falling to 7th after this road trip are sky high right now.

If you think this season isn't nearing a complete collapse, you are in denial.

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

This is not true. If the Nets fall to 7, which is very possible, they play the 8th seed in one game to determine who is the 7 seed for the playoffs. Kyrie would not play in that game since it would be a home game.

If the Nets lose, then they play the winner of the 9 vs 10 game for the 8th seed. Again, Kyrie is not playing in that game since it would be at home.

Missing the playoffs entirely is a real possibility.

There are zero guarantees with this team right now. Nash is a terrible coach, KD is hurt, Harden is looking for the off ramp and Kyrie doesn't care. We could easily end up in the lottery

[GYK]

As the roster is now at full strength our top four would have to be amazing. Zero hiccups. No defense can be able to affect them in the slightest. So well that the role players with their specific skillsets can thrive. However if we aren’t out scoring teams to the point our uber efficient offense isn’t getting back to set up halfcourt defense we are screwed. If we NEED anything and aren’t humming we’re screwed. If we need more defense it’s less offense without that much of defensive boost. If we need rebounding we have to look at the rookie as a savior. If we need more offense Patty/LMA with the 3 it is but way less defense.
Winning any other way but godtier efficiency isn’t really possible for us. However those 3 are capable of godtier efficiency.

Anywho think a couple of moves makes us literally unbeatable at full strength. Especially bringing in wings. Will force small ball with a Durant sized advantage. Guards wouldn’t force small ball, team size like now would just encourage opponents to go inside/big. Wings on the other hand bring too much skill/quickness for opponents to challenge without the massive size advantage to deem exploitable.

[NetsWorld]

At least Kyrie will be available to play more playoffs games

Not to mention we don't have much of a homecourt advantage.

As long as we're healthy and whole, it doesn't matter what position we get as long as we're in. We'll be fine.

This is not true. If the Nets fall to 7, which is very possible, they play the 8th seed in one game to determine who is the 7 seed for the playoffs. Kyrie would not play in that game since it would be a home game.

If the Nets lose, then they play the winner of the 9 vs 10 game for the 8th seed. Again, Kyrie is not playing in that game since it would be at home.

Missing the playoffs entirely is a real possibility.

There are zero guarantees with this team right now. Nash is a terrible coach, KD is hurt, Harden is looking for the off ramp and Kyrie doesn't care. We could easily end up in the lottery

Illl take a top pick or two. Why not ? Get youthful stars.

[Prokorov]

After rewatching the warriors game, im extremely confident of an ECF appearance at a minimum assuming KD is back healthy.

Kesslers D is flat out impressive. he can gaurd 1 through 4. His defense on Curry was eye opening. I count just 1 time he really shook kessler. a kind of did a second time but kessler recovered to alter the shot.

If Kessler can continue to be consistent shooting the ball, our starting lineup is an absurd mix of offense and defense.

Kessler/KD/Claxton is insane length who can all defend smalls. In the playoffs when it is switch everything that is going to be a tough trio up front.

And we already know HArden/Kyrie/KD is GOAT level offense, especially with a guy in a corner and a guy rolling. Despite all the rumors Harden and Kyrie have both played really well and everyone is saying the right things. We just need KD back and a small marks trade pre deadline wouldnt hurt.

Not worried about seeding. Hornets just lost to the pistons and play 6 games vs. teams above us in the standings. The Hornets either get buried or help us stay 1-2 games back where KDs return gets us back in the top 3.

[MrDollarBills]

This team is absolutely dysfunctional.

Don't believe what Nash says.

Don't believe any of the CRAP that comes out of Kyrie's mouth.

Believe Harden. Because he's the only one telling the truth. The team is having serious internal issues.

Sean Marks needs to be fired right along with Steve Nash.

Kevin Durant putting friendship over business also has a huge part in this disaster. He is not blameless. He has enabled Kyrie and it has led to an absolute disaster. Kyrie should have been told either get vaccinated or find a new team. KD absolutely owns this as well.

Trade Harden to Philadelphia for Simmons and Maxey. Fire Steve Nash. Either mandate Kyrie comply with the laws of New York or let his agent start asking around about who would want to take him in a trade. We need to hit the reset button while we still have KD here.

[Prokorov]

This team is absolutely dysfunctional.

Don't believe what Nash says.

Don't believe any of the CRAP that comes out of Kyrie's mouth.

Since when has Kyrie been dishonest? one thing you cant really knock him on is being a liar or snake. He has always stood behind his beliefs.

Believe Harden. Because he's the only one telling the truth. The team is having serious internal issues.

Ok, i believe him.

Harden: "There is no concern"

Kevin Durant putting friendship over business also has a huge part in this disaster. He is not blameless. He has enabled Kyrie and it has led to an absolute disaster. Kyrie should have been told either get vaccinated or find a new team. KD absolutely owns this as well.

Why would KD tell Kyrie what to do with his health decisions. its none of his business and the biggest D-bag move of all time to even try and influence someone to do it. there is nothing more selfish then asking someone to change their personal health decision because of how it will benefit you.

And thats almost verbatim what KD has said in his last 2 podcasts this month. "It has nothing to do with basketball".

Trade Harden to Philadelphia for Simmons and Maxey. Fire Steve Nash. Either mandate Kyrie comply with the laws of New York or let his agent start asking around about who would want to take him in a trade. We need to hit the reset button while we still have KD here.

IF we move harden and kyrie we may as well move KD too. cause we will be alot worse.

[MrDollarBills]

This team is absolutely dysfunctional.

Don't believe what Nash says.

Don't believe any of the CRAP that comes out of Kyrie's mouth.

Since when has Kyrie been dishonest? one thing you cant really knock him on is being a liar or snake. He has always stood behind his beliefs.

Believe Harden. Because he's the only one telling the truth. The team is having serious internal issues.

Ok, i believe him.

Harden: "There is no concern"

Kevin Durant putting friendship over business also has a huge part in this disaster. He is not blameless. He has enabled Kyrie and it has led to an absolute disaster. Kyrie should have been told either get vaccinated or find a new team. KD absolutely owns this as well.

Why would KD tell Kyrie what to do with his health decisions. its none of his business and the biggest D-bag move of all time to even try and influence someone to do it. there is nothing more selfish then asking someone to change their personal health decision because of how it will benefit you.

And thats almost verbatim what KD has said in his last 2 podcasts this month. "It has nothing to do with basketball".

Trade Harden to Philadelphia for Simmons and Maxey. Fire Steve Nash. Either mandate Kyrie comply with the laws of New York or let his agent start asking around about who would want to take him in a trade. We need to hit the reset button while we still have KD here.

IF we move harden and kyrie we may as well move KD too. cause we will be alot worse.

At this point i don't care. I want Kyrie out of here. if KD decides that he's out, great. Trade him for multiple firsts and we can rebuild.

These guys aren't even remotely all in on winning. Harden was, until Kyrie pulled his antivax crap and Nash proved to be a complete moron.

This is a disaster. You can't spin this anymore dude.

[Prokorov]

This team is absolutely dysfunctional.

Don't believe what Nash says.

Don't believe any of the CRAP that comes out of Kyrie's mouth.

Since when has Kyrie been dishonest? one thing you cant really knock him on is being a liar or snake. He has always stood behind his beliefs.

Believe Harden. Because he's the only one telling the truth. The team is having serious internal issues.

Ok, i believe him.

Harden: "There is no concern"

Kevin Durant putting friendship over business also has a huge part in this disaster. He is not blameless. He has enabled Kyrie and it has led to an absolute disaster. Kyrie should have been told either get vaccinated or find a new team. KD absolutely owns this as well.

Why would KD tell Kyrie what to do with his health decisions. its none of his business and the biggest D-bag move of all time to even try and influence someone to do it. there is nothing more selfish then asking someone to change their personal health decision because of how it will benefit you.

And thats almost verbatim what KD has said in his last 2 podcasts this month. "It has nothing to do with basketball".

Trade Harden to Philadelphia for Simmons and Maxey. Fire Steve Nash. Either mandate Kyrie comply with the laws of New York or let his agent start asking around about who would want to take him in a trade. We need to hit the reset button while we still have KD here.

IF we move harden and kyrie we may as well move KD too. cause we will be alot worse.

At this point i don't care. I want Kyrie out of here. if KD decides that he's out, great. Trade him for multiple firsts and we can rebuild.

These guys aren't even remotely all in on winning. Harden was, until Kyrie pulled his antivax crap and Nash proved to be a complete moron.

This is a disaster. You can't spin this anymore dude.

There is no spin.... this is stuff coming directly from Harden (Postgame, Twitter) Directly from Kyrie (Postgame, instagram live) and Directly from KD (on his podcast were he gives 0 Fs about what he says).

None of these guys are concerned. they all want to win and win badly. They are frustrated with things they cant control. injuries/mandates. They have been together almost 2 years and have barely played together.

The spin is that these guys hate each other, are demanding trades, are setting ultimatums.... thats the spin.

You can choose to ignore what guys who historically tell you exactly what they mean because you are frustrated. but that doesnt change the reality.

At the end of the day this is a beat up injured team with harden being run into the ground with a moron coach. Change the coach and get KD back and we are as close to a title lock as you can get. Even as is we are still the vegas top odds to win the title.

[MrDollarBills]

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Absolutely a disaster.

[Jay555]

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Absolutely a disaster.

Nothing to say at this point. Just wanting it to end quickly.

Part of me thinks or hopes it's a tactic by Joe's camp to avoid getting traded. Watch him come back after trade deadline.

[TheNetsFan]

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Absolutely a disaster.

Nothing to say at this point. Just wanting it to end quickly.

Part of me thinks or hopes it's a tactic by Joe's camp to avoid getting traded. Watch him come back after trade deadline.

Doubt that. It's probably residual damage that was missed last time.

[Jay555]

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Absolutely a disaster.

Nothing to say at this point. Just wanting it to end quickly.

Part of me thinks or hopes it's a tactic by Joe's camp to avoid getting traded. Watch him come back after trade deadline.

Doubt that. It's probably residual damage that was missed last time.

Just hoping. It's not unsual for this kind of tactic to be deployed tho.