Tank World Order (7.0)

[Los_29]

Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.

So far its looking that way. Theres been enough proof of how this team performs when healthy and that is .500 team.

Gonna be interesting to see if we had at deadline. Id only expect a small bench move.

I just hate sitting 8-11. We’ll see how masai handles it down the stretch. Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season

Very different situations though. Being the only team playing away from home then having our best players come down with covid would change the direction of most teams in this league. David Thorpe was saying Pascal lost like 20lbs from having covid. Masai knew that playing in the playoffs was stupid as we would be the only team in the league without a homecourt advantage. Perfect opportunity to take a step back, regroup and get younger.

This year, we are back at home (albeit no crowd right now) but our team has shown that it can compete and our biggest weakness is an easy fix (i.e. bench). Just having a competent bench will make us more competitive. Plus we are significantly younger than last year so lots of our guys can benefit from the experience. And winning a round is actually a possibility depending on matchups.

[WuTang_CMB]

Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.

So far its looking that way. Theres been enough proof of how this team performs when healthy and that is .500 team.

Gonna be interesting to see if we had at deadline. Id only expect a small bench move.

I just hate sitting 8-11. We’ll see how masai handles it down the stretch. Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season

Very different situations though. Being the only team playing away from home then having our best players come down with covid would change the direction of most teams in this league. David Thorpe was saying Pascal lost like 20lbs from having covid. Masai knew that playing in the playoffs was stupid as we would be the only team in the league without a homecourt advantage. Perfect opportunity to take a step back, regroup and get younger.

This year, we are back at home (albeit no crowd right now) but our team has shown that it can compete and our biggest weakness is an easy fix (i.e. bench). Just having a competent bench will make us more competitive. Plus we are significantly younger than last year so lots of our guys can benefit from the experience. And winning a round is actually a possibility depending on matchups.

Forget all the factors and differences from last seasom to this one. We all know about them. But it comes down to the records and performance. So far we are a .500 team. Good starters. Awful bench. Masai will improve the bench but i dont see him moving major draft assets for a myles turner type which is what we need to make some noise in playoffs.

[Los_29]

So far its looking that way. Theres been enough proof of how this team performs when healthy and that is .500 team.

Gonna be interesting to see if we had at deadline. Id only expect a small bench move.

I just hate sitting 8-11. We’ll see how masai handles it down the stretch. Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season

Very different situations though. Being the only team playing away from home then having our best players come down with covid would change the direction of most teams in this league. David Thorpe was saying Pascal lost like 20lbs from having covid. Masai knew that playing in the playoffs was stupid as we would be the only team in the league without a homecourt advantage. Perfect opportunity to take a step back, regroup and get younger.

This year, we are back at home (albeit no crowd right now) but our team has shown that it can compete and our biggest weakness is an easy fix (i.e. bench). Just having a competent bench will make us more competitive. Plus we are significantly younger than last year so lots of our guys can benefit from the experience. And winning a round is actually a possibility depending on matchups.

Forget all the factors and differences from last seasom to this one. We all know about them. But it comes down to the records and performance. So far we are a .500 team. Good starters. Awful bench. Masai will improve the bench but i dont see him moving major draft assets for a myles turner type which is what we need to make some noise in playoffs.

If you know about the differences then why are you bringing up last year?

Yeah he won’t do that because it’s shortsighted and Turner is not a needle mover. However I believe he will move a pick along with Dragic if he can a good young player.

There is nothing wrong with being in that 7-11 range. If we were an old team then I’d agree with you but we are a young team who will benefit from it.

[will]

Yeah, not really getting too far with Pascal and Senior leading the charge.

Time for a top 10 pick in the 2022 NBA entry draft to add to this lot.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Who hurt you, will?

[WuTang_CMB]

Very different situations though. Being the only team playing away from home then having our best players come down with covid would change the direction of most teams in this league. David Thorpe was saying Pascal lost like 20lbs from having covid. Masai knew that playing in the playoffs was stupid as we would be the only team in the league without a homecourt advantage. Perfect opportunity to take a step back, regroup and get younger.

This year, we are back at home (albeit no crowd right now) but our team has shown that it can compete and our biggest weakness is an easy fix (i.e. bench). Just having a competent bench will make us more competitive. Plus we are significantly younger than last year so lots of our guys can benefit from the experience. And winning a round is actually a possibility depending on matchups.

Forget all the factors and differences from last seasom to this one. We all know about them. But it comes down to the records and performance. So far we are a .500 team. Good starters. Awful bench. Masai will improve the bench but i dont see him moving major draft assets for a myles turner type which is what we need to make some noise in playoffs.

If you know about the differences then why are you bringing up last year?

Yeah he won’t do that because it’s shortsighted and Turner is not a needle mover. However I believe he will move a pick along with Dragic if he can a good young player.

There is nothing wrong with being in that 7-11 range. If we were an old team then I’d agree with you but we are a young team who will benefit from it.

Lol i didnt.. you did.

And no, 7-11 range is crap. Worst spot to be in. Theres a reason why masai and leiweke publically said thats the worst
Spot to be in the nba. Especially being year 1 of rebuild/post kyle era, that range doesnt benefit us.

We’ll see what moves masai makes at deadline but if team is 9/10 seed come march, doubt we keep running our guys in the ground.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

We've made tremendous strides in the rebuilding process through organic growth and have accelerated the timeline to have an opportunity to play the playin and possibly the playoffs.

[Los_29]

Forget all the factors and differences from last seasom to this one. We all know about them. But it comes down to the records and performance. So far we are a .500 team. Good starters. Awful bench. Masai will improve the bench but i dont see him moving major draft assets for a myles turner type which is what we need to make some noise in playoffs.

If you know about the differences then why are you bringing up last year?

Yeah he won’t do that because it’s shortsighted and Turner is not a needle mover. However I believe he will move a pick along with Dragic if he can a good young player.

There is nothing wrong with being in that 7-11 range. If we were an old team then I’d agree with you but we are a young team who will benefit from it.

Lol i didnt.. you did.

And no, 7-11 range is crap. Worst spot to be in. Theres a reason why masai and leiweke publically said thats the worst
Spot to be in the nba. Especially being year 1 of rebuild/post kyle era, that range doesnt benefit us.

We’ll see what moves masai makes at deadline but if team is 9/10 seed come march, doubt we keep running our guys in the ground.

You said this: "Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season"

They are completely different situations. You cannot compare what Masai did last year to this year.

And 7-11 range isn't crap. It all depends on the type of team you have. If it was crap then every 7-11 team would be pulling the plug and tanking every year. But they don't and they don't because they know there is value in making the playoffs.

I absolutely agree that it's a waste of time if you're a team with a core of 30 something year old players. That's a team that needs to be blown up. Fortunately, that's not the case for us.

If Masai didn't want to be in that 7-11 range then we wouldn't be out there playing our starters 55 minutes lol.

[WuTang_CMB]

If you know about the differences then why are you bringing up last year?

Yeah he won’t do that because it’s shortsighted and Turner is not a needle mover. However I believe he will move a pick along with Dragic if he can a good young player.

There is nothing wrong with being in that 7-11 range. If we were an old team then I’d agree with you but we are a young team who will benefit from it.

Lol i didnt.. you did.

And no, 7-11 range is crap. Worst spot to be in. Theres a reason why masai and leiweke publically said thats the worst
Spot to be in the nba. Especially being year 1 of rebuild/post kyle era, that range doesnt benefit us.

We’ll see what moves masai makes at deadline but if team is 9/10 seed come march, doubt we keep running our guys in the ground.

You said this: "Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season"

They are completely different situations. You cannot compare what Masai did last year to this year.

And 7-11 range isn't crap. It all depends on the type of team you have. If it was crap then every 7-11 team would be pulling the plug and tanking every year. But they don't and they don't because they know there is value in making the playoffs.

I absolutely agree that it's a waste of time if you're a team with a core of 30 something year old players. That's a team that needs to be blown up. Fortunately, that's not the case for us.

If Masai didn't want to be in that 7-11 range then we wouldn't be out there playing our starters 55 minutes lol.

You brought up the differences. I merely stated that they dont want to be in play in again and you went in detail on the differences from last season. Nonetheless, 7-11 range is crap and not where you want to be when you’re rebuilding. Masai has already alluded to this in the past so you dont really have any basis that he will go against this, this season.

Deadline will be interesting because they need help. Starters have been great since all coming back from covid. Bench needs major help.

[KL78192020]

Lol i didnt.. you did.

And no, 7-11 range is crap. Worst spot to be in. Theres a reason why masai and leiweke publically said thats the worst
Spot to be in the nba. Especially being year 1 of rebuild/post kyle era, that range doesnt benefit us.

We’ll see what moves masai makes at deadline but if team is 9/10 seed come march, doubt we keep running our guys in the ground.

You said this: "Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season"

They are completely different situations. You cannot compare what Masai did last year to this year.

And 7-11 range isn't crap. It all depends on the type of team you have. If it was crap then every 7-11 team would be pulling the plug and tanking every year. But they don't and they don't because they know there is value in making the playoffs.

I absolutely agree that it's a waste of time if you're a team with a core of 30 something year old players. That's a team that needs to be blown up. Fortunately, that's not the case for us.

If Masai didn't want to be in that 7-11 range then we wouldn't be out there playing our starters 55 minutes lol.

You brought up the differences. I merely stated that they dont want to be in play in again and you went in detail on the differences from last season. Nonetheless, 7-11 range is crap and not where you want to be when you’re rebuilding. Masai has already alluded to this in the past so you dont really have any basis that he will go against this, this season.

Deadline will be interesting because they need help. Starters have been great since all coming back from covid. Bench needs major help.

That has been one of Masai's misses, since Kawhi/Green left and FVV/OG became full time starters the bench has sucked. In three off seasons there has been no depth added.

[will]

Who hurt you, will?

That's a female trait

[WuTang_CMB]

You said this: "Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season"

They are completely different situations. You cannot compare what Masai did last year to this year.

And 7-11 range isn't crap. It all depends on the type of team you have. If it was crap then every 7-11 team would be pulling the plug and tanking every year. But they don't and they don't because they know there is value in making the playoffs.

I absolutely agree that it's a waste of time if you're a team with a core of 30 something year old players. That's a team that needs to be blown up. Fortunately, that's not the case for us.

If Masai didn't want to be in that 7-11 range then we wouldn't be out there playing our starters 55 minutes lol.

You brought up the differences. I merely stated that they dont want to be in play in again and you went in detail on the differences from last season. Nonetheless, 7-11 range is crap and not where you want to be when you’re rebuilding. Masai has already alluded to this in the past so you dont really have any basis that he will go against this, this season.

Deadline will be interesting because they need help. Starters have been great since all coming back from covid. Bench needs major help.

That has been one of Masai's misses, since Kawhi/Green left and FVV/OG became full time starters the bench has sucked. In three off seasons there has been no depth added.

Yah. It’s natural progression though and I would only say last season and this one is where we showed a lack of depth. We graduated these guys from bench to starters and turned FVV, OG and Siakam into top producing players from the bench into starters (siakam and fred basically all stars). we would rather have it that way then just a bunch of role players right now. Easier to find some bench guys.

[Madhouse]

Yeah, not really getting too far with Pascal and Senior leading the charge.

Time for a top 10 pick in the 2022 NBA entry draft to add to this lot.

It's needed but I still rather beat the fraudulent Hawks

[Ref_from_hell]

Yeah, not really getting too far with Pascal and Senior leading the charge.

Time for a top 10 pick in the 2022 NBA entry draft to add to this lot.

Will is like Robbie in season 4 of Cobra Kai. You can still be redeemed.

Edit Nevermind

You are more like Hawk in season 3. You can definitely be redeemed

[Los_29]

Lol i didnt.. you did.

And no, 7-11 range is crap. Worst spot to be in. Theres a reason why masai and leiweke publically said thats the worst
Spot to be in the nba. Especially being year 1 of rebuild/post kyle era, that range doesnt benefit us.

We’ll see what moves masai makes at deadline but if team is 9/10 seed come march, doubt we keep running our guys in the ground.

You said this: "Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season"

They are completely different situations. You cannot compare what Masai did last year to this year.

And 7-11 range isn't crap. It all depends on the type of team you have. If it was crap then every 7-11 team would be pulling the plug and tanking every year. But they don't and they don't because they know there is value in making the playoffs.

I absolutely agree that it's a waste of time if you're a team with a core of 30 something year old players. That's a team that needs to be blown up. Fortunately, that's not the case for us.

If Masai didn't want to be in that 7-11 range then we wouldn't be out there playing our starters 55 minutes lol.

You brought up the differences. I merely stated that they dont want to be in play in again and you went in detail on the differences from last season. Nonetheless, 7-11 range is crap and not where you want to be when you’re rebuilding. Masai has already alluded to this in the past so you dont really have any basis that he will go against this, this season.

Deadline will be interesting because they need help. Starters have been great since all coming back from covid. Bench needs major help.

You’re not really understanding the context in which he said it. And he’s clearly not staying true to his word right now if he meant what you think he meant.

We are the 8th seed right now and if all the reports coming out are true then Masai is looking to ADD to the team not take away from it.

Do you think Memphis regrets being in the play-in last year? I’d say they are much more prepared for the playoffs this year than last year. Maybe they win a round this year. Had they not made the playoffs last year they’d probably not win a round this year.

Also, Miami who is widely considered one of the best organizations in the league finished in that 7-11 range three years in a row from 2017-19. They didn’t seem to have a problem with it.

[DelAbbot]

We've made tremendous strides in the rebuilding process through organic growth and have accelerated the timeline to have an opportunity to play the playin and possibly the playoffs.

Yes we just have to keep bench at 0 mins rest of the season and have a 6 men rotation and sneaked into the playoffs. Then next season, we can save money by not getting a bench, and keep playing 6 men rotations - the money saved can be used to locked up FVV at 30M x 4 and GTJ 25M x 4. If they are used to avg 40mins in the regular season, they can play 48mins in the playoffs.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

We've made tremendous strides in the rebuilding process through organic growth and have accelerated the timeline to have an opportunity to play the playin and possibly the playoffs.

Yes we just have to keep bench at 0 mins rest of the season and have a 6 men rotation and sneaked into the playoffs. Then next season, we can save money by not getting a bench, and keep playing 6 men rotations - the money saved can be used to locked up FVV at 30M x 4 and GTJ 25M x 4. If they are used to avg 40mins in the regular season, they can play 48mins in the playoffs.

This is accurate.

[TRik]

Gotta love it when they just can’t stay away.

[TRik]

We've made tremendous strides in the rebuilding process through organic growth and have accelerated the timeline to have an opportunity to play the playin and possibly the playoffs.

Yes we just have to keep bench at 0 mins rest of the season and have a 6 men rotation and sneaked into the playoffs. Then next season, we can save money by not getting a bench, and keep playing 6 men rotations - the money saved can be used to locked up FVV at 30M x 4 and GTJ 25M x 4. If they are used to avg 40mins in the regular season, they can play 48mins in the playoffs.

.500 fo life

[TRik]

Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.

Imagine the ticket sales from the play in games though. #worthit