Randle Trade Talk

[Chanel Bomber]

idk why we didn't offer bud a contract. that man was perfect for us. knew how to develop youth and is a winner. best of both worlds.

Bud is Thibs-light.

He's just as stubborn.

[Jalen Bluntson]

It's going to be hilarious when Randle is still here after deadline and knicks didn't make any trades at all. The amount of chaos on this board will be fun to watch.

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[dakomish23]

oh damn. marc stein said this 3 days ago. looks like we tryna get rid of kemba and burks.

To UTA for Ingles + whatever scrub and a 2nd.

IQ McBride
Grimes Fournier
RJ Cam
Randle Obi
Mitch Noel Taj

[Clyde Frazier]

So my gut feeling is randle is here the rest of the year at least. For those who do think he'll be moved, what do you think we can realistically get for him? He does have some value as the contract isn't *that* bad and there's still a decent player in there somewhere

[Yes i will skim the nearly 40 page thread lol..]

[KnixtapeH20]

So my gut feeling is randle is here the rest of the year at least. For those who do think he'll be moved, what do you think we can realistically get for him? He does have some value as the contract isn't *that* bad and there's still a decent player in there somewhere

[Yes i will skim the nearly 40 page thread lol..]

Unless they plan on being absolute morons and keeping Randle next season it makes no sense not to trade him now. His value will not improve even if he starts playing well. Teams know Randle needs a change of scenery and less pressure from a smaller market

[dakomish23]

A UTA fan just made an offer on the T&T board with Ingles for Fournier.

If only

[Stannis]

Randle is untradeable unless Knicks give up a ton of assets to dumb his horrible contract.

[GettinitDone]

A UTA fan just made an offer on the T&T board with Ingles for Fournier.

If only

Losing Ingles is a big blow for Jazz. He's a runner up for 6th Man of Year last season, they'd scramble to trade for a player to replace his toughness, selflessness, passing, 3 pt shooting, being a good locker room guy and teammate... Randle?

[prophet_of_rage]

oh damn. marc stein said this 3 days ago. looks like we tryna get rid of kemba and burks.

To UTA for Ingles + whatever scrub and a 2nd.

IQ McBride
Grimes Fournier
RJ Cam
Randle Obi
Mitch Noel Taj

Ingles tore his ACL.

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[dakomish23]

oh damn. marc stein said this 3 days ago. looks like we tryna get rid of kemba and burks.

To UTA for Ingles + whatever scrub and a 2nd.

IQ McBride
Grimes Fournier
RJ Cam
Randle Obi
Mitch Noel Taj

Ingles tore his ACL.

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[dakomish23]

A UTA fan just made an offer on the T&T board with Ingles for Fournier.

If only

Losing Ingles is a big blow for Jazz. He's a runner up for 6th Man of Year last season, they'd scramble to trade for a player to replace his toughness, selflessness, passing, 3 pt shooting, being a good locker room guy and teammate... Randle?

He's proven he can play next to a rim runner with no range when his jumper is falling. Maybe they'd take that chance IDK. Would be a huge boost in talent for them plus he's a very will passer to open 3PT shooters and they got plenty

[Jay10]

idk why we didn't offer bud a contract. that man was perfect for us. knew how to develop youth and is a winner. best of both worlds.

Bud was never going to coach the Knicks. He was only having interviews with teams because he had to wait until the Bucks were eliminated from the playoffs, so why not just get free meals the same way free agents do, who we all know have already made up their minds where they are going to sign.

Mark Jackson was fired because the Warriors knew Kerr would replace him, and Jason Kidd was fired because the Bucks already made an agreement with Bud that they would hire him when their season ended.

[spree2kawhi]

oh damn. marc stein said this 3 days ago. looks like we tryna get rid of kemba and burks.

To UTA for Ingles + whatever scrub and a 2nd.

IQ McBride
Grimes Fournier
RJ Cam
Randle Obi
Mitch Noel Taj

They won’t trade Ingles, will they?

[spree2kawhi]

So my gut feeling is randle is here the rest of the year at least. For those who do think he'll be moved, what do you think we can realistically get for him? He does have some value as the contract isn't *that* bad and there's still a decent player in there somewhere

[Yes i will skim the nearly 40 page thread lol..]

Looking anywhere around the league, there’s not a deal we can realistically strike that includes Randle.

Denver and Utah really need him, but can’t offer anything.

If we can get anyone from the Spurs for Randle, it’s a win. They don’t really need him though, do they?

Boston should want him, but we’d only want Robert Williams and I’m sure he’s untouchable. Would they accept Mitch too?

Chicago can use him and force him off the ball. We should probably like Patrick Williams in return. They could send along Coby White or Airplane Mode. That’s interesting, but Williams probably won’t ever be as good as Randle.

Philly could use him and send Danny Green and one of Thybulle or Korkmaz. That’s not great value for us.

The Clippers could plan ahead and add Randle to Kawhi and PG. We’d get Bledsoe and would likely ask for Mann. That’s not a good deal for us as Mann is solid but isn’t going to be a star guard.

The Lakers could use him, but Westbrook is still much better than Randle and they couldn’t offer anything else.

I wouldn’t say Randle would be an upgrade over Crowder for Phoenix. That’s odd. And also wrong I guess. Phoenix can’t offer anything interesting in return though.

Portland intrigues me. Simons and Nance plus one more player for Randle. We should call them. They’d never do that at the deadline though.

Minnesota have plenty of expiring or intriguing contracts to offer, but they can’t offer any remarkable talent in return.

Milwaukee have nothing to offer.

We could literally send Randle and Fournier to Dallas for THJ, whose salary is declining, and Powell, who only has another year left. That’s a massive salary dump of very roughly 15 million. I could see Dallas doing it lol, for us it’d merely be an embarrassment.

I can’t see why Charlotte wouldn’t want Randle. Would we want Terry? That’s not good value for Randle imo.

Memphis could send Adams and Tyus Jones. That’s not a deal the Knicks should make.

[DickGrayson]

To those overrating Randle's stats and saying "he still has value, Kings have a hard time keeping people", as if Randle wouldn't scare away some free agents after his meltdown in NY.

1. Kings are trying to finally have a winning team. Please explain where Randle, who had one of the worst playoff performances and historically has been on really bad team and has no experience with winning. Especially with how unclutch Randle is, Kings can draft or sign soeone who would be a munch better fit than being stuck with RANDLE and let their youth go through what we go through.

lmao can you imagine DeAaron Fox trying to play with Randle and Randle doesn't run the floor, so Fox will be subjected to half court slow pace, high turnover offense. Massive yikes. Theres no logical explanation to why Kings would take on Randle.

2. Randle's value is overrated. It will always be a negative contract based on:
a. Randle is handicapped on defense, so taking on Randle means you need to design your team to have personnel to fill his weaknesses
b. Randle in the 4th quarter, he's trash in all quarters, but 4th quarter Randle is the worst player in crunch time.
c. Randle has a cancerous attitude, always looks sad, worried, doubtful, depressed, entitled.
d. Randle is just Mo Taylor with more ballhandling responsibility, but same exact passing skills. Let's stop posting "But Randle averages 18/9/5". Randle averages 3.5 turnovers with those 5 apg. His passing and domination of the ball(not a good way, slow pace, takes too long to get his offense going) doesn't help our offense, it negates it. Theres guys who average less assist than Randle, but are actually good passers because they make passes Randle can never make and that limits us. This is proof Randle plays for stats and if we had a good coach, Randle would never have this much ball handling responsibility. He's not Jokic, Diaw, Divac. He's hardly Turiaf tbh who made some educated passes with the Knicks. Randle 5 apg probably the most empty stat in the NBA today. Him playing high minutes and Thibs trusting him to mess up doesn't mean Randle is a good passer. Stop posting this statline as if Randle is a unicorn and we need to keep him because of it. Teams see through this and this is why most teams stay ahead of the Knicks.
e. Randle has 4 years + a player option. One of the longest contracts in the NBA for one of the most negative value players. Trading Randle would require atleast Quickley or a pick in the trade. No teams are in a hurry to kill their cap flexiblity for a player like Randle.


We need to stop trying to convince ourselves lies to make ourselves feel better and accept reality. Randle is a huge liability not only our roster, but also our reputation as a league. Do we repeat ourselves being the same old Knicks or do we finally level up as a front office, own our mistake and correct it? Probably the first, so the Randlesexauls will be happy seeing Knicks win 25-30 season the next 4 season as long as they keep their boy.

It's disgraceful Randle wears #30 when we had two legends don the number.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Lakers, Kings, or Portland may be our only hope to move Randle.

[Dave DaButcher]

To those overrating Randle's stats and saying "he still has value, Kings have a hard time keeping people", as if Randle wouldn't scare away some free agents after his meltdown in NY.

1. Kings are trying to finally have a winning team. Please explain where Randle, who had one of the worst playoff performances and historically has been on really bad team and has no experience with winning. Especially with how unclutch Randle is, Kings can draft or sign soeone who would be a munch better fit than being stuck with RANDLE and let their youth go through what we go through.

lmao can you imagine DeAaron Fox trying to play with Randle and Randle doesn't run the floor, so Fox will be subjected to half court slow pace, high turnover offense. Massive yikes. Theres no logical explanation to why Kings would take on Randle.

2. Randle's value is overrated. It will always be a negative contract based on:
a. Randle is handicapped on defense, so taking on Randle means you need to design your team to have personnel to fill his weaknesses
b. Randle in the 4th quarter, he's trash in all quarters, but 4th quarter Randle is the worst player in crunch time.
c. Randle has a cancerous attitude, always looks sad, worried, doubtful, depressed, entitled.
d. Randle is just Mo Taylor with more ballhandling responsibility, but same exact passing skills. Let's stop posting "But Randle averages 18/9/5". Randle averages 3.5 turnovers with those 5 apg. His passing and domination of the ball(not a good way, slow pace, takes too long to get his offense going) doesn't help our offense, it negates it. Theres guys who average less assist than Randle, but are actually good passers because they make passes Randle can never make and that limits us. This is proof Randle plays for stats and if we had a good coach, Randle would never have this much ball handling responsibility. He's not Jokic, Diaw, Divac. He's hardly Turiaf tbh who made some educated passes with the Knicks. Randle 5 apg probably the most empty stat in the NBA today. Him playing high minutes and Thibs trusting him to mess up doesn't mean Randle is a good passer. Stop posting this statline as if Randle is a unicorn and we need to keep him because of it. Teams see through this and this is why most teams stay ahead of the Knicks.
e. Randle has 4 years + a player option. One of the longest contracts in the NBA for one of the most negative value players. Trading Randle would require atleast Quickley or a pick in the trade. No teams are in a hurry to kill their cap flexiblity for a player like Randle.


We need to stop trying to convince ourselves lies to make ourselves feel better and accept reality. Randle is a huge liability not only our roster, but also our reputation as a league. Do we repeat ourselves being the same old Knicks or do we finally level up as a front office, own our mistake and correct it? Probably the first, so the Randlesexauls will be happy seeing Knicks win 25-30 season the next 4 season as long as they keep their boy.

It's disgraceful Randle wears #30 when we had two legends don the number.

That’s an awfully long way of saying “Randle sucks”.

[DickGrayson]

[Yes i will skim the nearly 40 page thread lol..]

Looking anywhere around the league, there’s not a deal we can realistically strike that includes Randle.

Denver and Utah really need him, but can’t offer anything.

If we can get anyone from the Spurs for Randle, it’s a win. They don’t really need him though, do they?

Boston should want him, but we’d only want Robert Williams and I’m sure he’s untouchable. Would they accept Mitch too?

Chicago can use him and force him off the ball. We should probably like Patrick Williams in return. They could send along Coby White or Airplane Mode. That’s interesting, but Williams probably won’t ever be as good as Randle.

Philly could use him and send Danny Green and one of Thybulle or Korkmaz. That’s not great value for us.

The Clippers could plan ahead and add Randle to Kawhi and PG. We’d get Bledsoe and would likely ask for Mann. That’s not a good deal for us as Mann is solid but isn’t going to be a star guard.

The Lakers could use him, but Westbrook is still much better than Randle and they couldn’t offer anything else.

I wouldn’t say Randle would be an upgrade over Crowder for Phoenix. That’s odd. And also wrong I guess. Phoenix can’t offer anything interesting in return though.

Portland intrigues me. Simons and Nance plus one more player for Randle. We should call them. They’d never do that at the deadline though.

Minnesota have plenty of expiring or intriguing contracts to offer, but they can’t offer any remarkable talent in return.

Milwaukee have nothing to offer.

We could literally send Randle and Fournier to Dallas for THJ, whose salary is declining, and Powell, who only has another year left. That’s a massive salary dump of very roughly 15 million. I could see Dallas doing it lol, for us it’d merely be an embarrassment.

I can’t see why Charlotte wouldn’t want Randle. Would we want Terry? That’s not good value for Randle imo.

Memphis could send Adams and Tyus Jones. That’s not a deal the Knicks should make.

Aaron Gordon is great for Denver, and they have no reason to take on Randle's big contract.

Utah maybe, but their coach and Randle wouldn't mess well, Randle would see himself playing 24-28 minutes at most, which is probably best for his career, but at this point he's a gimmick player.

Spurs is a possibility. Really the only franchise I can think of that can change Randle's career around, them and Golden State.

Lakers, nay. They're already old and even though Randle is 27, he plays like he's 34.


Clippers deal good for us because getting rid of Randle for cap space and a two player who actually proven himself in the playoffs unlike Randle is a massive W.

Philly don't need Randle, Randle/Embiid would be a nightmare not in a good way. I believe Philly needs a PG like Lillard.

Pretty sure Phoenix has no interest in Randle, they're focusing on resigning Ayton and Johnson, who are far better than Randle. So cap space is important to them.



"That’s interesting, but Williams probably won’t ever be as good as Randle."
1. He already is on defense, off the ball and shooting. Pat is only 20 with 49% FG and 39% 3PT. Modern NBA defender with range. Pat hasn't come close to his prime, but right now no way Chicago cares to have Randle on their team, their offense is better off with DeRozan/Lavine/Vucevic(better than Randle). 200% of the Chicago board decline even trading Williams to the Knicks, let along for Randle. That's their #4 pick for a reason. It's nothing personal but that's not a well thought out take. Randle as a prospect didn't have the tools Williams possess. Williams is 20 and still developing too, so doesn't make any sense you saying "but Williams probably won’t ever be as good as Randle." lol nah, Williams come back from his wrist injury, he's already the better player.

[DickGrayson]

To those overrating Randle's stats and saying "he still has value, Kings have a hard time keeping people", as if Randle wouldn't scare away some free agents after his meltdown in NY.

1. Kings are trying to finally have a winning team. Please explain where Randle, who had one of the worst playoff performances and historically has been on really bad team and has no experience with winning. Especially with how unclutch Randle is, Kings can draft or sign soeone who would be a munch better fit than being stuck with RANDLE and let their youth go through what we go through.

lmao can you imagine DeAaron Fox trying to play with Randle and Randle doesn't run the floor, so Fox will be subjected to half court slow pace, high turnover offense. Massive yikes. Theres no logical explanation to why Kings would take on Randle.

2. Randle's value is overrated. It will always be a negative contract based on:
a. Randle is handicapped on defense, so taking on Randle means you need to design your team to have personnel to fill his weaknesses
b. Randle in the 4th quarter, he's trash in all quarters, but 4th quarter Randle is the worst player in crunch time.
c. Randle has a cancerous attitude, always looks sad, worried, doubtful, depressed, entitled.
d. Randle is just Mo Taylor with more ballhandling responsibility, but same exact passing skills. Let's stop posting "But Randle averages 18/9/5". Randle averages 3.5 turnovers with those 5 apg. His passing and domination of the ball(not a good way, slow pace, takes too long to get his offense going) doesn't help our offense, it negates it. Theres guys who average less assist than Randle, but are actually good passers because they make passes Randle can never make and that limits us. This is proof Randle plays for stats and if we had a good coach, Randle would never have this much ball handling responsibility. He's not Jokic, Diaw, Divac. He's hardly Turiaf tbh who made some educated passes with the Knicks. Randle 5 apg probably the most empty stat in the NBA today. Him playing high minutes and Thibs trusting him to mess up doesn't mean Randle is a good passer. Stop posting this statline as if Randle is a unicorn and we need to keep him because of it. Teams see through this and this is why most teams stay ahead of the Knicks.
e. Randle has 4 years + a player option. One of the longest contracts in the NBA for one of the most negative value players. Trading Randle would require atleast Quickley or a pick in the trade. No teams are in a hurry to kill their cap flexiblity for a player like Randle.


We need to stop trying to convince ourselves lies to make ourselves feel better and accept reality. Randle is a huge liability not only our roster, but also our reputation as a league. Do we repeat ourselves being the same old Knicks or do we finally level up as a front office, own our mistake and correct it? Probably the first, so the Randlesexauls will be happy seeing Knicks win 25-30 season the next 4 season as long as they keep their boy.

It's disgraceful Randle wears #30 when we had two legends don the number.

That’s an awfully long way of saying “Randle sucks”.

ok

[DickGrayson]

Randle is untradeable unless Knicks give up a ton of assets to dumb his horrible contract.

200%

added to the fact no one is "desperate" for Randle, makes the bargaining more difficult for us. The length of the contract kills, but it's the fact Randle displays the same weaknesses everygame makes it's hard to convince other teams to take on our problem.

Putting the blame on Fournier/Burks/Walker/Barrett is just more Randle coddling. Before anyone goes, it has to be Randle. Other contracts don't kill our cap and our issues don't come from our supporting cast. Our bench have proven they can impact games, our biggest issue is Randle's meta. The no defense high turnover low efficiency offense is clearly not viable. Trading our role players for another group of role players on this team is like putting sprinkles on a pile of ****. The root of the problem starts and ends with Randle. 99% of our cast look more energetic and lively when he's off the court. We trade Randle, we will see the best out of our players. Enough minutes to share too with Randle gone.