CharlesOakley wrote:Pointgod wrote:CharlesOakley wrote:I really hate these town square floggings that are getting applauded. An anti-vax guy dying of Covid is not news. He made his bed and putting his head on a pike won't change anyone's mind.
It’s less about dunking on these guys and more of a cautionary tale about misinformation. A lot of people buy into this garbage and the outcome can lead to death. Plain and simple, people are killing themselves over something stupid. And they’re taking down other people with them.
This is why I'm against removing everyone with dangerous ideas from social media platforms, especially if they are domain experts. If someone has a dangerous idea, it is better to pull that idea into a spot light and defeat it with science / logic etc. The people you hope to convince will see this a dunking on a dead guy and the people who see it as a cautionary tale are already vaxxed.
The psychology of changing someone’s mind require a high level of emotional intelligence and logical thinking. When you come out the gate telling people they are incorrect about something they believe, it can come off as insulting and condescending, which often results in the other person losing interest in engaging with you.
We are driving the vaccine hesitant to become anti-vax. It's basically the same mechanism that got Trump elected. Shouting at people and calling them stupid obviously will fail.
So you want to protect a person's right to be stupid in public because you want their arguments to be stand or fall on their own intellectual merits yet you say out of the other side of your mouth that we shouldn't insult the intelligence of stupid people who go out of their way to spread disinformation and lies.
Pick an argument and show some consistency please.
And this assertion that pissing off stupid people is what elected Trump, therefore we should play nice is really obnoxious. Trumpism thrives on intimidation tactics. Maybe you missed January 6th, but that was domestic terrorism promoted by a sitting POTUS. And you want us to be nice to them so we don't rile up stupid people?
NO, you're dead wrong. We should speak up louder, because bullies win when you let them have their way. That applies to covid disnformation spreaders as well. The DOJ had to create a task force to address these bastards showing up at school board meetings and acting out violently in opposition to mask and vaccination policies. And you know how those people became bullies? By being lied to by creeps on Fox News, Joe Rogan and Twitter until they were banned.
Because stupid people think vaccines are meant to track their whereabouts or the technology of mRNA is dangerous they are impervious to logic and will continue to die because of their ignorance. They will perpetuate the pandemic by not getting vaxxed. They will continue to fck over the rest of us in their role as willing hosts to a contagion, because they are selfish in their delusional world full of false conspiracies. Ten years ago they were making Sci-Fi movies about these people turning into zombies and now we're already there.
Their "principles" are moronic and have nothing to do with "freedom". These morons got vaccinated as kids and now all of sudden, oooh, vaccines are bad, don't touch me! Meanwhile, the majority of those aholes have no problem with overturning Roe vs. Wade because all human life is precious. They won't fight to protect a women's right to choose, but they'll die to not be pricked by a needle. Stupid and hypocritical. Go live in the woods and eat bark and berries if you want your freedom from vaccines that bad.
So, yeah, these people who make a public display of their dumb anti-vaxx positions and then die from covid should be held up as poster children of ignorance. And the irony is that is probably the only thing that will convince other dummies to get vaxxed.
Robert Malone is a douchebag. Should I be nice and polite about that too?