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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1961 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:13 am

We could do a similar game as the current one at some point, with 70 FGAs or something except they can have played for a franchise at any point in their career
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1962 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:04 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Pairs draft, but you draft separately. You are randomly matched with another player, and your draft positions are put next to each other. When the draft is over the best teams are ranked, and either they're the winner or whichever pair has the best combined rankings make the finals and then play each other. So you have to balance making your own team as good as possible vs letting players who fit your partner fall to them.

Or we could make it so pairs can exchange players with each other at the end of the draft. Actually it might be more interesting to do it that way but with players at opposite ends of the draft order.


We could do this as single players. Draft as normal, but at the end you must have four pairs of teammates.
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1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1963 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:21 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Pairs draft, but you draft separately. You are randomly matched with another player, and your draft positions are put next to each other. When the draft is over the best teams are ranked, and either they're the winner or whichever pair has the best combined rankings make the finals and then play each other. So you have to balance making your own team as good as possible vs letting players who fit your partner fall to them.

Or we could make it so pairs can exchange players with each other at the end of the draft. Actually it might be more interesting to do it that way but with players at opposite ends of the draft order.


We could do this as single players. Draft as normal, but at the end you must have four pairs of teammates.


So they do the draft and then find someone else who's players match their needs and agree to team up/trade?

I prefer the "pairs" being announced before the draft strategy and fairness wise

Either way I don't think we have enough players for this right now
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1964 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:29 pm

The Small City game looks like the best idea with this depleted pool of drafters.
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Post#1965 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:32 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Pairs draft, but you draft separately. You are randomly matched with another player, and your draft positions are put next to each other. When the draft is over the best teams are ranked, and either they're the winner or whichever pair has the best combined rankings make the finals and then play each other. So you have to balance making your own team as good as possible vs letting players who fit your partner fall to them.

Or we could make it so pairs can exchange players with each other at the end of the draft. Actually it might be more interesting to do it that way but with players at opposite ends of the draft order.


We could do this as single players. Draft as normal, but at the end you must have four pairs of teammates.


So they do the draft and then find someone else who's players match their needs and agree to team up/trade?

I prefer the "pairs" being announced before the draft strategy and fairness wise

Either way I don't think we have enough players for this right now


No team ups or trading. It's a normal eight round draft, but everyone goes in knowing they have to end up with four pairs of teammates. For example, you could pick Wade in the second round and Bosh in the fifth to create one of your four pairs.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1966 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:54 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
We could do this as single players. Draft as normal, but at the end you must have four pairs of teammates.


So they do the draft and then find someone else who's players match their needs and agree to team up/trade?

I prefer the "pairs" being announced before the draft strategy and fairness wise

Either way I don't think we have enough players for this right now


No team ups or trading. It's a normal eight round draft, but everyone goes in knowing they have to end up with four pairs of teammates. For example, you could pick Wade in the second round and Bosh in the fifth to create one of your four pairs.


I feel like we must have done that before, but I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world to do it again
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Post#1967 » by Laimbeer » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:01 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:The Small City game looks like the best idea with this depleted pool of drafters.


This is good, too.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Post#1968 » by flaco » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:39 am

How about we draft 8 players from 8 different nationalities? If a player has multiple nationalities, we are free to choose whichever we want. With the rise of international basketball, there are plenty of players to choose from. Here's a list. I'm sure I'm forgetting loads of names.


Argentina: Manu, Scola, Prigioni, Delfino, Nocioni, Oberto, Campazzo
Australia: Simmons, Ingles, Patty Mills, Bogut, Luc Longley, Baynes, Exum, Thybulle, Dellavedova
Austria: Jakob Poeltl
Bahamas: Ayton, Buddy Hield, Mychal Thompson
Bosnia and Herzegovina: Nurkic, Teletovic
Brazil: Varejao, Splitter, Nene, Cristiano Felicio, Leandro Barbosa, Raul Neto
Cameroon: Joel Embiid, Pascal Siakam, Luc Mbah a Moute
Canada: Nash, SGA, Jamal Murray, Wiggins, Dillon Brooks, RJ Barrett, Rick Fox, Olynyk, Dort, Trey Lyles, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Jamaal Magloire, Tristan Thompson, Brandon Clarke, Stauskas, Khem Birch, Dwight Powell, Cory Joseph
China: Yao Ming
Congo: Mutombo, Ibaka, Biyombo, Emmanuel Mudiay
Croatia: Drazen, Kukoc, Radja, Bojan Bogdanovic, Dario Saric, Zubac, Hezonja
Czech Rebublic: Tomas Satoransky, Jan Veselý
Dominican Republic: KAT, Horford, Charlie Villanueva
Finland: Lauri Markkanen
France: Gobert, Parker, Noah, Batum, Diaw, Fournier, Ntilikina
Georgia: Zaza Pachulia, Goga Bitadze
Germany: Dirk, Schrempf, Schroder, Chris Kaman, Isaiah Hartenstein, Kleber, Theis, Shawn Bradley
Greece: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kosta Koufos
Haiti: Samuel Dalembert
Israel: Avdija, Casspi, TJ Leaf, Amare' (has received israeli citizenship)
Italy: Gallinari, Belinelli, Bargnani, Nicolò Melli, Ryan Arcidiacono
Jamaica: Patrick Ewing, Roy Hibbert
Japan: Rui Hachimura, Yuta Watanabe
Latvia: Kristaps Porziņģis, Dāvis Bertāns, Andris Biedriņš
Lebanon: Rony Seikaly
Lithuania: Arbydas Sabonis, Domantas Sabobis, Valanciunas, Marciulionis, Ilgauskas, Motiejūnas, Kleiza
Montenegro: Vucevic, Mirotic, Pekovic
Netherlands: Rik Smits
New Zealand: Steven Adams
Nigeria: Hakeem Olajuwon, Michael Olowokandi, Jahlil Okafor, Monté Morris, Al-Farouq Aminu, Josh Okogie, Precious Achiuwa, Chimezie Metu
North Macedonia: Pero Antic
Panama: Rolando Blackman
Philippines: Jordan Clarkson, Andray Blatche
Poland: Marcin Gortat
Puerto Rico: JJ Barea, Carlos Arroyo, Moe Harkless, Shabazz Napier
Russia: Kirilenko, Mozgov, Shved
Saint Lucia: Chris Boucher
Senegal: Gorgui Dieng, Georges Niang
Serbia: Jokic, Divac, Stojakovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Bjelica, Teodosic, Jaric, Krstic, Marjanovic, Milicic, Pavlovic, Radmanovic, Danilovic
Slovenia: Luka Doncic, Goran Dragic, Sasha Vujacic, Rasho Nesterovic, Anthony Randolph (has recieved slovenian citizenship)
South Sudan: Luol Deng
Spain: Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol, Rubio, Calderon, Navarro, Willy Hernangómez, Juan Hernangómez, Rudy Fernandez, Abrines
Sudan: Manute Bol
Sweden: Jonas Jerebko
Switzerland: Capela, Sefolosha
Turkey: Okur, Turkoglou, Ilyasova, Osman, Asik, Korkmaz, Shane Larkin (has recieved turkish citizenship)
Ukraine: Alex Len, Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
UK: Ben Gordon, Anunoby
USA: (endless list)
Venezuela: Greivis Vasquez
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1969 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Feb 2, 2022 3:55 am

We could also do one with 2 players from four countries of your choice at some point, maybe even picking them as pairs
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Post#1970 » by Laimbeer » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:18 pm

Players who never played in a college game in the US?
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Post#1971 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:28 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Players who never played in a college game in the US?

I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.
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Post#1972 » by Colbinii » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:50 pm

Maybe a basic "One MVP" game?
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Post#1973 » by Laimbeer » Fri Feb 4, 2022 3:17 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Players who never played in a college game in the US?

I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


Is this it for bonafide first rounders?

Giannis
Dirk
Kobe
LeBron
Jokic
Garnett

The folks at the bottom could pair up two of Moses, TMac, Dwight, and others I'm forgetting.

It is thin but it also pulls in players we don't normally see. I do like the concept.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1974 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:10 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Players who never played in a college game in the US?

I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


Is this it for bonafide first rounders?

Giannis
Dirk
Kobe
LeBron
Jokic
Garnett

The folks at the bottom could pair up two of Moses, TMac, Dwight, and others I'm forgetting.

It is thin but it also pulls in players we don't normally see. I do like the concept.

Feels like the pool would just be a stripped-down version of the current one.

My vote would still be for the small market game with the cities proposed by Dr P.
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Post#1975 » by Colbinii » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:12 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:I've had this idea in my head for a while. Not sure the depth is there though - the preps-to-pros pool is pretty shallow, while a number of international players would be ineligible.


Is this it for bonafide first rounders?

Giannis
Dirk
Kobe
LeBron
Jokic
Garnett

The folks at the bottom could pair up two of Moses, TMac, Dwight, and others I'm forgetting.

It is thin but it also pulls in players we don't normally see. I do like the concept.

Feels like the pool would just be a stripped-down version of the current one.

My vote would still be for the small market game with the cities proposed by Dr P.


I agree, very similar to the previous pool [mostly international players].
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Post#1976 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:17 pm

Colbinii wrote:Maybe a basic "One MVP" game?


We did that a few years ago

Maybe a draft where 1x MVP winners are available, multi times are not would be interesting
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Post#1977 » by flaco » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:46 pm

Here's an idea:

We can draft up to 2 players from each of the following regions for a total of 8 players per team.

- USA
- The Americas excluding the USA
- Europe
- Africa
- Asia and Oceania (Russia and Turkey could count as either asian or european depending on what fits your strategy)

Nationality is determined by wikipedia/whichever site you guys want.
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Post#1978 » by Laimbeer » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:52 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Is this it for bonafide first rounders?

Giannis
Dirk
Kobe
LeBron
Jokic
Garnett

The folks at the bottom could pair up two of Moses, TMac, Dwight, and others I'm forgetting.

It is thin but it also pulls in players we don't normally see. I do like the concept.

Feels like the pool would just be a stripped-down version of the current one.

My vote would still be for the small market game with the cities proposed by Dr P.


I agree, very similar to the previous pool [mostly international players].


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Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#1979 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:06 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Feels like the pool would just be a stripped-down version of the current one.

My vote would still be for the small market game with the cities proposed by Dr P.


I agree, very similar to the previous pool [mostly international players].


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Post#1980 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:09 pm

flaco wrote:Here's an idea:

We can draft up to 2 players from each of the following regions for a total of 8 players per team.

- USA
- The Americas excluding the USA
- Europe
- Africa
- Asia and Oceania (Russia and Turkey could count as either asian or european depending on what fits your strategy)

Nationality is determined by wikipedia/whichever site you guys want.

This could work as a pairs draft, i.e. two picks at a time.

For the USA I'd add another restriction like same birth state

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