Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right?

[Goner]

The ball doesn't stop dribbling and his hand is never under the ball. You can take as many steps as you like if your dribble is alive. Two feet don't have to be on the floor to dribble

The refs don't even call carries anymore if the hand is simply under the ball; the hand must also be either lifting the ball or slowing its descent (IT was infamous for that latter).

[BallerTalk]

So you agree it's technically a travel?

It's not a travel.

Traveling rules only apply after the ball is gathered. It's a common misunderstanding, but you can take 20 steps in between dribbles, do jumping jacks, whatever, as long as the dribble is still live.

[pbernardi]

So you can do this move inside the post going to the basket?

Once this is technically not a travel, one could do this jumping higher, right?

[Egg Nog]

If you don't pick up your dribble you can't travel.

Watch at the 17 second mark. That is a legal move. Yes, really.

Watch on YouTube

[Ice Trae]

Mike Bibby used to do that all the time. Not galloping high but he would always skip when bringing the ball down the court

[DaPessimist]

It's not traveling, but it is palming. The NBA doesn't call palming violations anymore though.

[og15]

this sort of thing happens every other possession in the nba, just in less exaggerated fashion. they don't call travels in the backcourt. technically a travel, but who cares

So you agree it's technically a travel?

it's de jure a travel but de facto not a travel. referees never call it and nba players know that. it's a good thing, it's a completely pointless call to make

What would be the travel though? Travelling doesn't make sense as a call there.

So you can do this move inside the post going to the basket?

Once this is technically not a travel, one could do this jumping higher, right?

What move? Dribble and jump while the dribble is live in the post? What would be the benefit for the player, getting the ball stripped?

[Lalouie]

You can't dribble, jump in the air and have 2 feet off the ground, land whilst keeping the same dribble right?

To me that's just a blatant violation

Or am I wrong, and it's this sequence not a travel?

honestly what's the diff between that and sprinting downcourt while taking 3steps on one dribble. it's oranges a tangerines but they're both fruits

[alevirfe]

1) that was showmanship at it's finest

2) no way that ever gets called in the NBA, and not sure even by strict definition it's a foul

3) may be worth checking the L2M report for the game given when it happened

4) thank you for posting this awesome sequence as I wouldn't have seen it otherwise

[alevirfe]

He never picked up his dribble nor did he carry the ball (by nba standards) so it's not a travel. It doesn't matter if he jumps while dribbling. My 2 cents anyways.

Agree but, on a different note, it apparently is a violation if you punch the ball while dribbling.

Not like punch it into the stands. But use a fist to dribble is a violation. They called it a few weeks ago and I was like wtf?

WTF!? lol that's hilarious. any time you remember the game or player? I love when those once in a million rules come out

[kg01]

He never picked up his dribble nor did he carry the ball (by nba standards) so it's not a travel. It doesn't matter if he jumps while dribbling. My 2 cents anyways.

Agree but, on a different note, it apparently is a violation if you punch the ball while dribbling.

Not like punch it into the stands. But use a fist to dribble is a violation. They called it a few weeks ago and I was like wtf?

WTF!? lol that's hilarious. any time you remember the game or player? I love when those once in a million rules come out

It was Trae earlier this season. If I remember the game I'll try and post the clip.

They took the ball out so the guy threw Trae the ball. Instead of catching it as normal, he punched the ball into the ground then started dribbling. *tweet* Violation.

Not even in protest to a call, which I would've understood. Just dribbling. I'd seen players do that before, never seen it called. But it is indeed a violation.

[stevegb]

I think it's a travel technically. Except for the gather, what's the difference between this and a pro hop? Don't think it would ever get called in the NBA though probably in the Olympics though

[Fencer reregistered]

The only way its a travel is if he picks up his dribble... you could argue that he scooped/palmed the ball a bit more than normal on those dribbles but certainly a thing we see players do a lot, especially on cross over type plays.

Exactly.

Magic typically traveled or didn't travel about that much whenever he brought the ball up the court.

[JN61]

You do realize that in normal running motion you have both feet in air constantly? How many steps you take in between ball bouncing the ground is irrelevant as long as there is the push motion. You can take 5 steps if you keep on pressing the ball downwards and not holding it or carrying it

These are very basic drills young players do. Try dribble to other end of the court and do layup with least amount of dribbles for example. 4-5 dribbles is normal for high schooler.

[pbernardi]

So you can do this move inside the post going to the basket?

Once this is technically not a travel, one could do this jumping higher, right?

What move? Dribble and jump while the dribble is live in the post? What would be the benefit for the player, getting the ball stripped?

Not talking about benefits of the play, just observing that this move would be called a travel if near basket IMHO. A player which does this "jump dribble" once and then starts the two steps do the basket would almost certainly be called by referees, for example.

[Maf]

You do realize that in normal running motion you have both feet in air constantly? How many steps you take in between ball bouncing the ground is irrelevant as long as there is the push motion. You can take 5 steps if you keep on pressing the ball downwards and not holding it or carrying it

These are very basic drills young players do. Try dribble to other end of the court and do layup with least amount of dribbles for example. 4-5 dribbles is normal for high schooler.

I don't know what's the case, if it is NBA/FIBA difference, rules were changed or we were just tought wrong but this makes me shocked. Not saying you're wrong, you are most probably right, just saying I'm stunned that you can do that.

Similar thing is when guy throws self alley-up off the backboard. When I played as a kid if you didn't hit the rim you were called for a travel. To this day I don't know if our rules were little different or our referees misinterpreted the rules.

[YourCellarDoor]

it's actually sad how many people have such a bad misunderstanding of a basic rule like this.

you literally cannot travel during a live dribble.

[Catchall]

I would say he's prancing in this instance.

[theforumblue]

This kind of hopping while your dribble is still alive was never travel at any time.

[Catchall]

it's actually sad how many people have such a bad misunderstanding of a basic rule like this.

you literally cannot travel during a live dribble.

I've been called for a travel with a live dribble when I did a move where my left foot touched the floor twice, without my right foot touching the floor. It was a cool hesi with a small hop.