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Post#101 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:11 am

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Nothing to say at this point. Just wanting it to end quickly.

Part of me thinks or hopes it's a tactic by Joe's camp to avoid getting traded. Watch him come back after trade deadline.

Doubt that. It's probably residual damage that was missed last time.


Just hoping. It's not unsual for this kind of tactic to be deployed tho.

After reading his agent's full quote, you might be right. He says they'll know in a week or so whether his ankle will respond or needs a second minor procedure. Coincidentally the trade deadline is a week away. Could be a true coincidence, or it could be agent speak for don't trade him or only trade him to a desirable location. I'd love to see a Harris+Claxton for Covington+Nance type deal, but I don't know if Portland would bite. Harris is from Washington state, so maybe getting back to the Northwest would appeal to him.
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Post#102 » by Jay555 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:20 am

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TheNetsFan wrote:Doubt that. It's probably residual damage that was missed last time.


Just hoping. It's not unsual for this kind of tactic to be deployed tho.

After reading his agent's full quote, you might be right. He says they'll know in a week or so whether his ankle will respond or needs a second minor procedure. Coincidentally the trade deadline is a week away. Could be a true coincidence, or it could be agent speak for don't trade him or only trade him to a desirable location. I'd love to see a Harris+Claxton for Covington+Nance type deal, but I don't know if Portland would bite. Harris is from Washington state, so maybe getting back to the Northwest would appeal to him.


Yep, something is off there. Must be agent doing his work. (I hope)

Harris/Clax for Covinton and Nance would be sweet.
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Post#103 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:55 pm

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Oh, I can bet that there are serious chemistry issues.
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Post#104 » by NetsWorld » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:21 pm

It's quiet clear now that Kyrie does not like playing with Harden and vice versa. Harden has a specific system that needs to be run for him to be effective whereas Kyrie does not need that and likes ISO. KD can play with either of them but the better fit seems to be Kyrie. If Harden is the one who dips, you best believe my theory is correct here. And I don't think this rift started when the mandate was implemented; I am sure it was well before that. Could it be that Kyrie refused the vaxx to avoid playing with Harden and is hoping the team trades him? Remains to be seen. There is more than meets the eye and something will come out eventually clarifying the whole rift. Woj and Shams will be on it........Sooner or later.
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Post#105 » by Jay555 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:35 pm

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Oh, I can bet that there are serious chemistry issues.


Said it all along. We were rolling 21-7 before Kai came back. We then suddenly became a lottery team. We have the talent to win even without KD but our chemistry/morale are horrid.You do not want to go near that locker room.
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Post#106 » by GYK » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:19 am

Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.
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Post#107 » by Jay555 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:25 am

GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


Wonder what Tsai is thinking now.
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Post#108 » by GYK » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:33 am

Jay555 wrote:
GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


Wonder what Tsai is thinking now.

Well hopefully he’s thinking Sean Marks is on the hot seat. That he seen Harden career with shooters and even last season. How different this roster looks and exactly how it’s problem(now a blowout with James passing giving non shooters easier shots). That he might have to bite his wallet and use his TPE’s to bring in the players necessary.
Tsai wasn’t on the Suns he has no reason to want that teams legacy to be redeemed. He says his religion is winning, well Harden has proven his style can challenge the GOAT team and we have the most portable superstar ever. Just get them 3&D wings and normal screen, defend and rebounding bigs.
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Post#109 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:33 am

Jay555 wrote:Wonder what Tsai is thinking now.

"I wonder if Phil Jackson is available?" :lol: :biggrin:
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Post#110 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:54 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Read on Twitter


Oh, I can bet that there are serious chemistry issues.


Said it all along. We were rolling 21-7 before Kai came back. We then suddenly became a lottery team. We have the talent to win even without KD but our chemistry/morale are horrid.You do not want to go near that locker room.


We were playing like trash the weeks before Kyrie came back too. We lost to a clippers team missing everyone, at home, when they were on a back to back. Since then we just lost more and more guys.

We evicerated the bulls with the big 3 all playing

its is 100% a coaching issue.

Kyrie is an elite teammate. KD spoke about what a boost it was having him back and shams wrote about how it was the players who pushed to have him back part time. There are few guys in the league more liked then Kyrie by the players.
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Post#111 » by Pablo Escobar » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:04 am

GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.
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Post#112 » by GYK » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:12 am

Pablo Escobar wrote:
GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.

Yea FO/media/fans overrate their guys. Not that they’re bad players but what they bring to this team. The old adage of Player A and Player B could play with anyone and win should never be spoken again. Role players HAVE to space and defend. Trading out stars doesn’t fix our role player fit problem.
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Post#113 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:33 am

GYK wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:
GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.

Yea FO/media/fans overrate their guys. Not that they’re bad players but what they bring to this team. The old adage of Player A and Player B could play with anyone and win should never be spoken again. Role players HAVE to space and defend. Trading out stars doesn’t fix our role player fit problem.


Our role guys are fine. The problem is right now they are injured or being asked to be starters.

Harris/Mills might be the best duo of floor spacing role players in league history. We saw how it looked vs. the bulls when role guys could be role guys again.

And yeah, stars do fix it.
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Post#114 » by Prokorov » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:36 am

Pablo Escobar wrote:
GYK wrote:Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.


The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.


I mean, when those 3 stars played we were 13-3, stopping so very good competition. the issue was never roster construction, it was health and luck.
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Post#115 » by GYK » Sat Feb 5, 2022 6:45 am

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GYK wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:
The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.

Yea FO/media/fans overrate their guys. Not that they’re bad players but what they bring to this team. The old adage of Player A and Player B could play with anyone and win should never be spoken again. Role players HAVE to space and defend. Trading out stars doesn’t fix our role player fit problem.


Our role guys are fine. The problem is right now they are injured or being asked to be starters.

Harris/Mills might be the best duo of floor spacing role players in league history. We saw how it looked vs. the bulls when role guys could be role guys again.

And yeah, stars do fix it.

Bruh I don’t wanna do this with you again. So I feel you.
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Post#116 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:42 am

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Jay555 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Read on Twitter


Oh, I can bet that there are serious chemistry issues.


Said it all along. We were rolling 21-7 before Kai came back. We then suddenly became a lottery team. We have the talent to win even without KD but our chemistry/morale are horrid.You do not want to go near that locker room.


We were playing like trash the weeks before Kyrie came back too. We lost to a clippers team missing everyone, at home, when they were on a back to back. Since then we just lost more and more guys.

We evicerated the bulls with the big 3 all playing

its is 100% a coaching issue.

Kyrie is an elite teammate. KD spoke about what a boost it was having him back and shams wrote about how it was the players who pushed to have him back part time. There are few guys in the league more liked then Kyrie by the players.


I'm tired of this bro.

Kyrie is not an elite teammate. He's a part time player. Harden can't f*cking stand him and wants out.

Stop it. No one believes this nonsense. Since Kyrie came back the team has gone to hell
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Post#117 » by Educator » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:19 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Jay555 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Read on Twitter


Oh, I can bet that there are serious chemistry issues.


Said it all along. We were rolling 21-7 before Kai came back. We then suddenly became a lottery team. We have the talent to win even without KD but our chemistry/morale are horrid.You do not want to go near that locker room.


We were playing like trash the weeks before Kyrie came back too. We lost to a clippers team missing everyone, at home, when they were on a back to back. Since then we just lost more and more guys.

We evicerated the bulls with the big 3 all playing

its is 100% a coaching issue.

Kyrie is an elite teammate. KD spoke about what a boost it was having him back and shams wrote about how it was the players who pushed to have him back part time. There are few guys in the league more liked then Kyrie by the players.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Kyrie is an elite teammate? Where do you get your delusion juice? What flavor is it?
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Post#118 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:14 pm

Kyrie Irving is a completely toxic personality who has basically sabotaged this team.

Nash sucks, but all of this began to go wrong the moment Irving refused to get vaccinated.

I don't blame Harden one bit for wanting out of here. People expect him to carry a roster full of non shooters and a part time player to a winning record at age 33. Not me. I hope all the best for James Harden. He was all in until it was blatantly clear that Kyrie, and by extension KD, didn't care whether we win or not, and he decided it was time to go. I can't fault him for that. I have said all season long if I had to choose between trying to win a championship with Joel Embiid and Doc Rivers or the current situation the Nets are in with an inept coach, a top heavy roster and an absolute toxic and selfish player like Kyrie, I would chose to play with Embiid. Embiid is playing MVP ball and wants to win.

Go back to the first post in this thread. I told you guys this was going to happen.

By protecting Kyrie, KD basically told us he's just here to hoop, but not necessarily to win a championship.

I hope Kyrie opts out this summer. There's no sense in hoping that things will change with this guy. He is who he is, a highly paranoid individual with Narcissistic personality disorder that always leaves things worse than he found them. The day he got in front of the media and said that guys need to put their egos aside for the good of the team despite the fact that he never does is all you need to know about him.

And those of you who think things will change when or if the mandate is lifted, I've got news for you: It will then be something else that causes a problem.
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Post#119 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:05 pm

After Dwightmare, Melo trade talks, Billy King, and the DWill saga, some people used to say that this franchise was cursed. I laughed it off as just a series on unfortunate events.

But now? I don’t know…maybe there is something to it lol smh
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Post#120 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:17 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:KD basically told us he's just here to hoop, but not necessarily to win a championship.

I mean…let’s be 100% real.

If KD’s primary goal was to win a championship by any means necessary, he probably would’ve stayed with GSW.

He didn’t make the move to Brooklyn because it was the best opportunity to win at the time. He made it because he 1) wanted something different, 2) wanted to play on the same team with his now best friend, and 3) wanted a place where he could just hoop.

He has said multiple times that winning a championship isn’t his primary motivation (at least not anymore).

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