2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Kurtz]

Dragic, Boucher and a 2023 lotto protected first for Dinwiddie and Kuzma. We get length that can score that would fit well coming off the bench

A lineup of Barnes, Spencer, OG, Kuz, Precious gives us enough ball handlers and shooters to where we aren’t complete trash without one of Pascal/Fred on the floor.

If we can pick up another guard on the margins I’d be happy

Those two take too many shats and play too little defense.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Dragic, Boucher and a 2023 lotto protected first for Dinwiddie and Kuzma. We get length that can score that would fit well coming off the bench

A lineup of Barnes, Spencer, OG, Kuz, Precious gives us enough ball handlers and shooters to where we aren’t complete trash without one of Pascal/Fred on the floor.

If we can pick up another guard on the margins I’d be happy

Those two take too many shats and play too little defense.

Bench guys coming in to play 20-25 minutes and give Pascal and Fred a rest. Gives some scoring options outside of the starters

[AreBe]

Easy on trading lotto picks for this year.
Look- it's fun, etc, and great the Raps are winning- the trade we don't make by giving up on kids or moving them out and trading away picks might be the smartest.

Learn from the Toronto Maple Leafs: Proven geezers for young kids and draft picks never, ever works out,

We do not need a rental- I would rather trade for picks and kids than trade picks and kids.

[Raptors_128]

Someone was mentioning Simmons to Portland in the off-season and it actually makes sense. Portland has opened up a max slot and can take Simmons completely into their cap space allowing the Sixers to sign Harden as a free agent + giving them picks/cheap young players to trade for more win-now pieces around Harden/Embiid.

All the Sixers have to do is dump Harris with picks attached. They can recoup the lost picks in the Simmons deal.

Sixers could look scary next season.

[HangTime]

IF the Kings/Pacers and Blazers/Pelicans trade haven't been finalized yet, let's Jump in

Pelicans get
CJ McCollum
Larry Nance Jr.
Tony Snell

Blazers get
Goran Dragic
Josh Hart
Tomas Staoransky
2022 First Round pick (Top 5 protected, Pelicans)
2022 Second Round pick (Pelicans)
2022 Second Round pick (Pelicans)
2022 Second Round Pick (KIngs)
2022 First round (Raptors, Lottery protected)

Kings get:
Domantas Sabonis
Jeremy Lamb
Justin Holiday
Yuta Watanabe/Svi Mykhailiuk
Issac Bonga
Malachi Flynn

Pacers get
Tyrese Haliburton
Buddy Hield
Tristan Thompson

Raptors get
Jusuf Nurkic
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Marvin Bagley

[Rapsfan07]

IF the Kings/Pacers and Blazers/Pelicans trade haven't been finalized yet, let's Jump in

Pelicans get
CJ McCollum
Larry Nance Jr.
Tony Snell

Blazers get
Goran Dragic
Josh Hart
Tomas Staoransky
2022 First Round pick (Top 5 protected, Pelicans)
2022 Second Round pick (Pelicans)
2022 Second Round pick (Pelicans)
2022 Second Round Pick (KIngs)
2022 First round (Raptors, Lottery protected)

Kings get:
Domantas Sabonis
Jeremy Lamb
Justin Holiday
Yuta Watanabe/Svi Mykhailiuk
Issac Bonga
Malachi Flynn

Pacers get
Tyrese Haliburton
Buddy Hield
Tristan Thompson

Raptors get
Jusuf Nurkic
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Marvin Bagley

No thanks.

Nurkic is expiring, Bagleys pretty trash and NAW isn't good either.

Now that Turner isn't going to dealt, I really don't see a move out there that makes sense for us. I'm not interested in dealing future assets for expiring contracts or vets who JUST help us out right now. The truth is that as of right now, we aren't good enough to win a chip and we don't have much time between now and having to pay FVV and Trent, assuming that they actually want to continue to play here. It make little sense to invest meaningful assets in a team that is likely to undergo significant change before we are ready to compete.

Since we are unlikely to trade 2 young Allstars, my advice would be if you're trading a pick, it should be for a young piece who can be part of the future. If we have to take on future salary, let it be for a player who can contribute now.

Guys like Nurkic, Bagley, Bogdanovic etc don't make sense.

[Ell Curry]

Bledsoe and #38 for Dragic is interesting again now that the Blazers will have 2 lotto picks, Keon Johnson and Alexander-Walker to develop, and saving 3.9M in cap space for them this summer might actually matter since they can keep Simons and Nurkic and still have enough money to sign someone for like 15M who gets MLE offers otherwise, like Mitchell Robinson, Portis, Mo Bamba or TJ Warren to be their starting 4 or split time at the 5 with Nurkic.

With the tax up, we can still I think afford to eat Bledsoe's 3.9M without it compromising the signing of Boucher and using the full 10M of the MLE and staying under the tax. We get a 2nd rounder, and Bledsoe if he's hitting 34% like normal from 3 instead of 31% probably is worth giving 15 minutes a night for his defence, and of course having a high 2nd rounder to hopefully get a Herb Jones type or another high upside Banton type might be good.

And if we don't get a good MLE fit AND Bledsoe really impresses Nurse we can always guarantee him and have another massive expiring on the books and still keep Boucher and just go into the season 2-3M over the tax with an agreement he'll take a bigger buyout than normal of that 2-3M to get us under the tax and he still gets like 10M more than he would otherwise if we just waived him he and signed for 5M somewhere.

[bluerap23]

Would need to be done in 2 deals because Bledsoe can't be traded with others but doable.

[Ell Curry]

I'm not sure we'd move Boucher for Nurk straight up. Nurk probably getting 5M more this summer and he fits our D worse and is the person Achiuwa reminds me of when he misses bunnies.

[tecumseh18]

The plan may be to replenish the bench with two or three buyouts (Marc? Serge? Marc AND Serge?) after the deadline. That still requires creating space by saving ~2 mill on Dragic's buyout or trade. So if the trade is for Gallo, then we also have to send Yuta and Svi out with him, with max cash to help ATL buy them out. Trading for Bogdon's smaller annual salary instead would make it easier to create this space.

[Ell Curry]

Bledsoe and #38 for Dragic is interesting again now that the Blazers will have 2 lotto picks, Keon Johnson and Alexander-Walker to develop, and saving 3.9M in cap space for them this summer might actually matter since they can keep Simons and Nurkic and still have enough money to sign someone for like 15M who gets MLE offers otherwise, like Mitchell Robinson, Portis, Mo Bamba or TJ Warren to be their starting 4 or split time at the 5 with Nurkic.

I forgot to float that trading Bledsoe and NAW for Dragic and Flynn actually would save Portland like 7M for free agent using next year AND we could cut Bledsoe, keep NAW and still have I think about 19M (after waiving Bledsoe) for Boucher and the MLE which is really close to what we'd need to sign a veteran guard/wing and keep Boucher.

[Psubs]

The plan may be to replenish the bench with two or three buyouts (Marc? Serge? Marc AND Serge?) after the deadline. That still requires creating space by saving ~2 mill on Dragic's buyout or trade. So if the trade is for Gallo, then we also have to send Yuta and Svi out with him, with max cash to help ATL buy them out. Trading for Bogdon's smaller annual salary instead would make it easier to create this space.

Keep Yuta and send Bonga.

[Psubs]

Dragic for Eric Gordon, Evan Fournier, Bogdan Bogdanovic, or Buddy Hield?

[Rapsfan07]

Dragic for Eric Gordon, Evan Fournier, Bogdan Bogdanovic, or Buddy Hield?

I think we need a C more than we need a bench wing scorer.

[tecumseh18]

Dragic for Eric Gordon, Evan Fournier, Bogdan Bogdanovic, or Buddy Hield?

I think we need a C more than we need a bench wing scorer.

Nope. We'll pick up a C on the buy-out market. We need an elite bench scorer.

People forget that the key to the fun 2019-2020 Raptors, especially before the all-star break, was TD2 coming off the bench and just laying waste. It's such a valuable asset to have. Bogdan did it against us a few days ago. Raps were running the Hawks out of the arena, and he checked in and single-handedly shot his team back into the game.

The lack of anyone on the Raps bench who can do that and create or increase points separation is why all our games are close and the starters have to play 40+ minutes.

[StopitLeo]

Dragic for Eric Gordon, Evan Fournier, Bogdan Bogdanovic, or Buddy Hield?

I think we need a C more than we need a bench wing scorer.

Nope. We'll pick up a C on the buy-out market. We need an elite bench scorer.

People forget that the key to the fun 2019-2020 Raptors, especially before the all-star break, was TD2 coming off the bench and just laying waste. It's such a valuable asset to have. Bogdan did it against us a few days ago. Raps were running the Hawks out of the arena, and he checked in and single-handedly shot his team back into the game.

The lack of anyone on the Raps bench who can do that and create or increase points separation is why all our games are close and the starters have to play 40+ minutes.

Why would any decent bought out C choose the Raptors over an actual contender?

[Rapsfan07]

I think we need a C more than we need a bench wing scorer.

Nope. We'll pick up a C on the buy-out market. We need an elite bench scorer.

People forget that the key to the fun 2019-2020 Raptors, especially before the all-star break, was TD2 coming off the bench and just laying waste. It's such a valuable asset to have. Bogdan did it against us a few days ago. Raps were running the Hawks out of the arena, and he checked in and single-handedly shot his team back into the game.

The lack of anyone on the Raps bench who can do that and create or increase points separation is why all our games are close and the starters have to play 40+ minutes.

Why would any decent bought out C choose the Raptors over an actual contender?

Correct. This is my point exactly.

Guards who can score are far easier to come by than starting quality Cs.

[Morris_Shatford]

If we could find a way to sneak into that Kings deal;
To land Lamb and Holmes (20.8m combine) what in addition to Dragic (and salary ballast) needs to go out?

[Rapsfan07]

If we could find a way to sneak into that Kings deal;
To land Lamb and Holmes (20.8m combine) what in addition to Dragic (and salary ballast) needs to go out?

I probably wouldn't be adding more than Flynn and a second for that package.

I'd really like for us to go for Bamba.

[Rodrickle]

If we could find a way to sneak into that Kings deal;
To land Lamb and Holmes (20.8m combine) what in addition to Dragic (and salary ballast) needs to go out?

Holmes is okay, but not sure about Lamb. I think its Rodney hood all over again with the post archilles injury. Dont think he'll make our rotation. And Dragic is probably our only asset we'll trade to land a guard which is badly needed imo.

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