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Post#1921 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:00 am

Neeva wrote:Graham and McCollum are overrated and Zion will miss a ton of games.


I agree with most of this, but put them with Ingram and JV and they will get more open shots. As for Zion, the Pels will have to find a way to keep him healthy and fit. If they cannot get his weight under control he will wash out of the league. But assuming he stays healthy (big assumption,) they will still be very stacked. Also, Nance Jr as a fill in for Zion isn’t exactly a push over (he is a pretty good role player.)
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Post#1922 » by ClarkeW » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:58 am

Jake Layman + 2nd Round Pick for Gorgui Dieng. It’s not sexy but it improves our size, rebounding and overall team depth. And Gorgui is the type of guy who would fit in great with this crew. I think he would get behind another little run back with the Wolves, and I think the fans would like it too. I know I would.

Any bigger moves can wait until the off-season. Let’s roll with the great chemistry and depth we’ve been developing, get some playoff experience and see what happens.
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Post#1923 » by Folklore » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:05 am

I'd trade Ant for Simmons and a pick at his point. I'm not sure what's going on with him but he needs to learn how to finish. he's playing off the fear of getting put on a poster of his rookie season.
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Post#1924 » by shrink » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:17 am

ClarkeW wrote:Jake Layman + 2nd Round Pick for Gorgui Dieng. It’s not sexy but it improves our size, rebounding and overall team depth. And Gorgui is the type of guy who would fit in great with this crew. I think he would get behind another little run back with the Wolves, and I think the fans would like it too. I know I would.

Any bigger moves can wait until the off-season. Let’s roll with the great chemistry and depth we’ve been developing, get some playoff experience and see what happens.

I’ve been down with this for a while. It might not even take a 2nd round pick, just some cash. Now that Okongwu is back, Gorgui barely plays. He’s logged 19 total minutes in the last three weeks.

I would add that Gorgui also knows how to play with KAT, plus he fits nicely in the Rubio TPE, so we’d re-set the clock with a year-long TPE on Layman.
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Post#1925 » by Neeva » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:24 am

shrink wrote:
ClarkeW wrote:Jake Layman + 2nd Round Pick for Gorgui Dieng. It’s not sexy but it improves our size, rebounding and overall team depth. And Gorgui is the type of guy who would fit in great with this crew. I think he would get behind another little run back with the Wolves, and I think the fans would like it too. I know I would.

Any bigger moves can wait until the off-season. Let’s roll with the great chemistry and depth we’ve been developing, get some playoff experience and see what happens.

I’ve been down with this for a while. It might not even take a 2nd round pick, just some cash. Now that Okongwu is back, Gorgui barely plays. He’s logged 19 total minutes in the last three weeks.

I would add that Gorgui also knows how to play with KAT, plus he fits nicely in the Rubio TPE, so we’d re-set the clock with a year-long TPE on Layman.


Atlanta wouldn’t want Layman though they would want Okogie IMO.
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Post#1926 » by shrink » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:32 am

Neeva wrote:
shrink wrote:
ClarkeW wrote:Jake Layman + 2nd Round Pick for Gorgui Dieng. It’s not sexy but it improves our size, rebounding and overall team depth. And Gorgui is the type of guy who would fit in great with this crew. I think he would get behind another little run back with the Wolves, and I think the fans would like it too. I know I would.

Any bigger moves can wait until the off-season. Let’s roll with the great chemistry and depth we’ve been developing, get some playoff experience and see what happens.

I’ve been down with this for a while. It might not even take a 2nd round pick, just some cash. Now that Okongwu is back, Gorgui barely plays. He’s logged 19 total minutes in the last three weeks.

I would add that Gorgui also knows how to play with KAT, plus he fits nicely in the Rubio TPE, so we’d re-set the clock with a year-long TPE on Layman.


Atlanta wouldn’t want Layman though they would want Okogie IMO.

It was Okogie I was suggesting back then to bring in Dieng. For that, we should get the extra money or a bad 2nd rounder. Even with all the wings they started with, their desperate need for defense would make Okogie part of their rotation.
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Post#1927 » by Neeva » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:40 am

These two trades just make too much sense IMO
Okogie for Dieng and 2nd
Reid, Layman, two 2nds for PJ Washington
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Post#1928 » by life_saver » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:19 am

Folklore wrote:I'd trade Ant for Simmons and a pick at his point. I'm not sure what's going on with him but he needs to learn how to finish. he's playing off the fear of getting put on a poster of his rookie season.

:banghead: :banghead:
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Post#1929 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:23 am

Folklore wrote:I'd trade Ant for Simmons and a pick at his point. I'm not sure what's going on with him but he needs to learn how to finish. he's playing off the fear of getting put on a poster of his rookie season.

Lol no chance in hell.
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Post#1930 » by wolves_89 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:27 am

It seems our big moves are getting good Beasley, good Prince, and good McLaughlin for bad Beasley, bad Prince, and bad McLaughlin. It's hard to overstate how much better those three are playing compared to the first half of the season.
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Post#1931 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:30 am

We sure we wanna trade a flamethrower like Beas after making 7 3s tonight? Has Simmons even made 7 in his career?
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Post#1932 » by _AIJ_ » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:33 am

winforlose wrote:Can you guys imagine next season when the Pelicans starting lineup is Graham, Mccuollum, Ingram, Zion, and Valanciunas. They could be very dangerous.

They would still suck. Whose going to play defense on that team?
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Post#1933 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:37 am

_AIJ_ wrote:
winforlose wrote:Can you guys imagine next season when the Pelicans starting lineup is Graham, Mccuollum, Ingram, Zion, and Valanciunas. They could be very dangerous.

They would still suck. Whose going to play defense on that team?


Not sure, but will be entertaining to try and find out.
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Post#1934 » by wolves_89 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 6:14 am

In the last 15 games Beasley has shot 45% on 3s and Prince 56%. At this point, it's getting hard to see many realistic trades where Minnesota could upgrade either of those guys. That likely means the Wolves trade options are limited to players who make $8M or less (Layman+Okogie salary).
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Post#1935 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 9, 2022 6:22 am

wolves_89 wrote:In the last 15 games Beasley has shot 45% on 3s and Prince 56%. At this point, it's getting hard to see many realistic trades where Minnesota could upgrade either of those guys. That likely means the Wolves trade options are limited to guys who make $8M or less (Layman+Okogie salary).


If we knew they would keep it up you would be correct. That said, we could have easily lost this game if the Kings were hitting their 3s or we were not unconscious in our 3 point shooting. Our defense is still broken, our defensive rebounding still needs work, and we are still lacking depth at C. Standing firm or making small semi consequential moves will probably get us to 6th, maybe even 5th, but it won’t get us much else. To truly take that next step we need to add another significant big. If anything the recent hot streak of both men has opened doors that were closed just a few weeks ago. Painful as it is to move on from guys just finding their game, if we can get the right players we must move them.
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Post#1936 » by TwolvesFanRome » Wed Feb 9, 2022 8:36 am

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:We sure we wanna trade a flamethrower like Beas after making 7 3s tonight? Has Simmons even made 7 in his career?

I would never trade him if only he always played like that...This night he was sensational...I saw the HL and seems to me that I have not seen simple or open shot ... the simplicity in the "catch and shoot" is absurd...
"...I want to compliment him, we all expected that he would take up the game, we have prepared the plan race on him, we have doubled. And, as usual, he did what he wanted..."

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Post#1937 » by shangrila » Wed Feb 9, 2022 9:58 am

Does anyone really want to gamble on Prince sustaining 56% from 3 though? Or even Beasley at 45%?

I don't. Not that I'd give them away, but this mid-season streak isn't enough to take them off the trade table.
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Post#1938 » by minimus » Wed Feb 9, 2022 10:24 am

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Reid ended my idea of trading for Len as 3rd string C.
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Post#1939 » by Domejandro » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:31 pm

Not making a move to improve the team because of a winning streak would be bad GMing. Minnesota should (and will) continue to test the trade market.

That said, it is more likely that Minnesota is the third team in a trade.
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Post#1940 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:00 pm

Domejandro wrote:Not making a move to improve the team because of a winning streak would be bad GMing. Minnesota should (and will) continue to test the trade market.

That said, it is more likely that Minnesota is the third team in a trade.

We’re 13-5 since Covid riddled the team in late December. You don’t have to test the trade market because the team is actually good and has *gasp* continuity for the first time in 2 decades. I’m not a big Beas guy. But he’s certainly needed for playoff teams.

I, for one, am certainly not in favor of giving up 3 or 4 important depth pieces for someone like Ben Simmons.

Trading lifelong twolf Naz who we brought in on a summer league deal for some other teams back up center to improve rebounding by maybe 1-2 rebounds seems like overthinking.


So why mess up a good thing?

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