Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets?

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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#41 » by Onlytimewilltel » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:40 am

SFour wrote:some teams look good on paper initially but in reality they just don't work out.....ex - Nets and Lakers

that's why I'm not fully buying into the Embiid-Harden Sixers...who knows if those 2 will work out chemistry-wise


The only reason nets didn’t “work out” last playoffs was injuries. Otherwise they cakewalk to title.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#42 » by SFour » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:52 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
SFour wrote:some teams look good on paper initially but in reality they just don't work out.....ex - Nets and Lakers

that's why I'm not fully buying into the Embiid-Harden Sixers...who knows if those 2 will work out chemistry-wise


The only reason nets didn’t “work out” last playoffs was injuries. Otherwise they cakewalk to title.


injuries are a part of reality.....people were questioning Kyrie's durability the second the Nets "superteam" was formed.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#43 » by bradybunch » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:00 am

Too hard.

Not enough basketballs.

Wanted his MVP to be a C so he can dribble like a mad man.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#44 » by rickxdel » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:02 am

I think it's pretty obvious to suspect he hated the drama surrounding the team, with largely Kyrie to blame. There are reports that they did not vibe together at all. Once KD went down with injury, Harden must've felt the pressure to be the ironman of the team, the constant amongst the chaos, while he felt they (KD) didn't keep Kyrie accountable enough.

Harden probably felt a lack of urgency from them, of course both of them have their rings while he doesn't. The frustration/resentment of that kind of situation just built up to the point where he wanted out.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#45 » by Antinomy » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:07 am

Harden came in expecting an easy ride & escaped at the first sign of adversity.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#46 » by Profound23 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:07 am

gst8 wrote:I doubt he’s going to be happy in Philly either.

His shelf life sharing the spotlight isn’t good.



Yep, he will sign a max deal in the off-season.....then try to force a trade within a year after that.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#47 » by SaintofKillers » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:08 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:James Harden has found an issue with every star player he has played with since he left OKC


Every single one of those players has been headcases except for CP3 who was more of a Tillman problem.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#48 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:10 am

Rodwilliams wrote:It’s pretty unclear on why he wanted to leave the Nets. First they said he was frustrated with the Kyrie situation. Another report came out saying that wasn’t true. Another report said he was upset at the Nets organization. Upset about what? What exactly was his reasons for leaving?

I mean, when we hear a guy is frustrated with a frustrated situation, and then he forces a trade, I think we can take it in face value.

Yes, Kyrie did this.

No sympathy for Harden and his behavior, but if you’re looking for someone to blame other than him, it’s the flat earther who has decided to not to get vaccinated even when it means totally messing up his team.


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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#49 » by AreBe » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:12 am

An interesting failed experiment in ring chasing, aren't those Nets?
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#50 » by SoulJah » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:15 am

Rodwilliams wrote:It’s pretty unclear on why he wanted to leave the Nets. First they said he was frustrated with the Kyrie situation. Another report came out saying that wasn’t true. Another report said he was upset at the Nets organization. Upset about what? What exactly was his reasons for leaving?


he thought he could party throughout the season and get carried by the other two to the ring, but when he realized that he'd actually have to put in some effort, he was out. How does anybody like this guy is beyond me
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#51 » by CometGM » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:18 am

SoulJah wrote:
Rodwilliams wrote:It’s pretty unclear on why he wanted to leave the Nets. First they said he was frustrated with the Kyrie situation. Another report came out saying that wasn’t true. Another report said he was upset at the Nets organization. Upset about what? What exactly was his reasons for leaving?


he thought he could party throughout the season and get carried by the other two to the ring, but when he realized that he'd actually have to put in some effort, he was out. How does anybody like this guy is beyond me


You make a good point. Talent aside, I wonder if this is the most un-liked (personality wise) trio ever?
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#52 » by DCasey91 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:28 am

SoulJah wrote:
Rodwilliams wrote:It’s pretty unclear on why he wanted to leave the Nets. First they said he was frustrated with the Kyrie situation. Another report came out saying that wasn’t true. Another report said he was upset at the Nets organization. Upset about what? What exactly was his reasons for leaving?


he thought he could party throughout the season and get carried by the other two to the ring, but when he realized that he'd actually have to put in some effort, he was out. How does anybody like this guy is beyond me


That ironic because Harden was the steady ship at the Nets in all of this. Man was on fire last season he’s been an Ironman for a long long time and has done heaps of one man jobs.

Kyrie is a head case who wouldn’t want out.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#53 » by MrBigShot » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:54 am

Because of part time employee Kyrie "I don't listen to a Dr" Irving
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#54 » by taikibansei » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:58 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Money & power. Tsai & Marks were uneasy about giving him 5 years this summer. He also didn't have the organizational say that he would have with Morey. KD has all of the player influence with Marks.


Good thing that Harden opted into his last year so Morey and the 76ers don't have to worry about it this summer. I'm sure Morey spoke to Harden about that.

So much for all that new-found organizational say, huh? :wink: :roll:
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#55 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:07 pm

taikibansei wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Money & power. Tsai & Marks were uneasy about giving him 5 years this summer. He also didn't have the organizational say that he would have with Morey. KD has all of the player influence with Marks.


Good thing that Harden opted into his last year so Morey and the 76ers don't have to worry about it this summer. I'm sure Morey spoke to Harden about that.

So much for all that new-found organizational say, huh? :wink: :roll:

To make the most money, $270mil, Harden had to opt in and extend. He will be extension eligible in 6 months.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#56 » by canada_dry » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:26 pm

Once it got tough, he got packing.

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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#57 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:30 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Maybe he'll chime in soon. He's a realgm poster, right?


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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#58 » by Tacoma » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:46 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
SoulJah wrote:
Rodwilliams wrote:It’s pretty unclear on why he wanted to leave the Nets. First they said he was frustrated with the Kyrie situation. Another report came out saying that wasn’t true. Another report said he was upset at the Nets organization. Upset about what? What exactly was his reasons for leaving?


he thought he could party throughout the season and get carried by the other two to the ring, but when he realized that he'd actually have to put in some effort, he was out. How does anybody like this guy is beyond me


That ironic because Harden was the steady ship at the Nets in all of this. Man was on fire last season he’s been an Ironman for a long long time and has done heaps of one man jobs.

Kyrie is a head case who wouldn’t want out.


Harden is not a leader. He's a glorified role player, all offense no defense, and when the going gets tough, he wants to be traded, he quits. Him & Durant has missed a boatload of games but so what, who cares about the regular season?

Kyrie is a head case, few would argue otherwise. But him playing only road games plus Durant and Harden would've been enough to get BKN to the ECF at least. Harden is shortsighted, he's all about himself. I don't see a team with Harden as one of the "leaders" winning a Championship. He doesn't have the right character. Fool's gold.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#59 » by red96 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:21 pm

Maybe because 1/3 of the team salary isnt playing, but I'm just guessing.
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Re: Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets? 

Post#60 » by SleepingDragon » Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:40 pm

The other 2 star players on the team didn't have the urgency of winning the title since they already have rings.

So he went to join with a superstar who doesn't have one in Philly.

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