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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#821 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:21 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

Fits that versatile can do a bit of everything mold. Athletic. Wouldnt be surprised if this was the guy at 31


Looks like a 6'7 Deandre Bembry. He should stay 1 more year. If not, I'd be cool giving him a camp invite.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#822 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:49 pm

Psubs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

Fits that versatile can do a bit of everything mold. Athletic. Wouldnt be surprised if this was the guy at 31


Looks like a 6'7 Deandre Bembry. He should stay 1 more year. If not, I'd be cool giving him a camp invite.


Raps dont draft based on what you are, they draft on what they think they can transform you into, especially in 2nd round.
lets keep that in mind.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#823 » by grant101 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:05 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Psubs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

Fits that versatile can do a bit of everything mold. Athletic. Wouldnt be surprised if this was the guy at 31


Looks like a 6'7 Deandre Bembry. He should stay 1 more year. If not, I'd be cool giving him a camp invite.


Raps dont draft based on what you are, they draft on what they think they can transform you into, especially in 2nd round.
lets keep that in mind.


Agreed. Also don't really see the Bembry comp. Bembry was much more of a connector, role player, even in college.

Seabron's shot is also far from broken, he's just so reluctant with it. Very similar to Shai at UK. Perhaps he just doesn't see the need since he gets to the rim at will? I also think he'd have a lot more hype if he was given more on ball reps. He's an underrated passer.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#824 » by Madhouse » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:36 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

Fits that versatile can do a bit of everything mold. Athletic. Wouldnt be surprised if this was the guy at 31


He is interesting because it seems like he is improving steadily and not reaching a plateau like Peyton Watson or Houston.

He was a pretty good HS player but not more, then prep school, then red shirt, then not played much last year and has done very well this year.

He is a pretty awful shooter but developing nicely as a passer. Good rebounder, too.
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Post#825 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:43 pm

Not impressed w this draft at all.

Jabari isn't the best player on his team
Chet isn't the best on his team
Pablo isnt the best on his team
Ivey isn't the best on his team


There's no one who is that guy. It's a bad draft.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#826 » by Madhouse » Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:45 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:Not impressed w this draft at all.

Jabari isn't the best player on his team
Chet isn't the best on his team
Pablo isnt the best on his team
Ivey isn't the best on his team


There's no one who is that guy. It's a bad draft.


that really doesn't mean anything lol. It's all about potential.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#827 » by Karanpal » Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:13 pm

Someone always drops. Who do you guys think can. Drop. I think duren hardy and bladwin Jr will all. Drop still don't think they are worth it but many do
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#828 » by grant101 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:23 pm

Karanpal wrote:Someone always drops. Who do you guys think can. Drop. I think duren hardy and bladwin Jr will all. Drop still don't think they are worth it but many do


I can't see Duren drop out of the lottery, but he'd be a dream get imo. Hardy and PBJ might drop though. Don't think Hardy fits with this team, but PBJ would slot in really nicely as a more skilled Cam Johnson-type. That jump shot is a thing of beauty! Still, chances are he's gone before we pick.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#829 » by PoundTown » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:04 am

Madhouse wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:Not impressed w this draft at all.

Jabari isn't the best player on his team
Chet isn't the best on his team
Pablo isnt the best on his team
Ivey isn't the best on his team


There's no one who is that guy. It's a bad draft.


that really doesn't mean anything lol. It's all about potential.


You forget that our young stud didn’t even start on his college team. I think it’s an average talent draft without a clear cut top guy.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#830 » by Indeed » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:18 am

PoundTown wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:Not impressed w this draft at all.

Jabari isn't the best player on his team
Chet isn't the best on his team
Pablo isnt the best on his team
Ivey isn't the best on his team


There's no one who is that guy. It's a bad draft.


that really doesn't mean anything lol. It's all about potential.


You forget that our young stud didn’t even start on his college team. I think it’s an average talent draft without a clear cut top guy.


I think this is a deep draft. Someone like Duren would be a top 5 pick in a regular draft.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#831 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:14 pm

Indeed wrote:
PoundTown wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
that really doesn't mean anything lol. It's all about potential.


You forget that our young stud didn’t even start on his college team. I think it’s an average talent draft without a clear cut top guy.


I think this is a deep draft. Someone like Duren would be a top 5 pick in a regular draft.


What year would you consider to be a regular draft. I think that's the question, was last year a good draft or a regular draft in your opinion?
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#832 » by HumbleRen » Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:19 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
Indeed wrote:
PoundTown wrote:
You forget that our young stud didn’t even start on his college team. I think it’s an average talent draft without a clear cut top guy.


I think this is a deep draft. Someone like Duren would be a top 5 pick in a regular draft.


What year would you consider to be a regular draft. I think that's the question, was last year a good draft or a regular draft in your opinion?


Last year was an abnormal draft. One of the deepest in years, especially high end potential prospects.

This year isn't as deep at the top but it's pretty deep in terms of quality role players.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#833 » by Indeed » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:42 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I think this is a deep draft. Someone like Duren would be a top 5 pick in a regular draft.


What year would you consider to be a regular draft. I think that's the question, was last year a good draft or a regular draft in your opinion?


Last year was an abnormal draft. One of the deepest in years, especially high end potential prospects.

This year isn't as deep at the top but it's pretty deep in terms of quality role players.


Indeed, last year was one of the deepest, and this year is also deep with good quality of role players that has the potential to be high-end or take a step to be a quality starter.

Normal draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NBA_draft
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#834 » by Dalek » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:38 pm

Psubs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

Fits that versatile can do a bit of everything mold. Athletic. Wouldnt be surprised if this was the guy at 31


Looks like a 6'7 Deandre Bembry. He should stay 1 more year. If not, I'd be cool giving him a camp invite.


He's a guy I have been tracking for a while. He is lightning quick and pretty great in transition as a scorer. He lacks a jumpshot so that is one concern. Also, he doesn't play defense and is about 190 lbs at most. He is tall but slight so I am not sure if he is draftable. I think he will definitely be around in the 30s.
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Post#835 » by Dalek » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:40 pm

In the 30s, the guy I really fits Toronto is Terrence Shannon Jr. I wanted him last year but he pulled out of the draft late. He is a strong athletic wing at about 6'6 and he is a smart defender - pretty high up in the Big 12 BPM. He just looks like a big NBA wing. Not sure what his back issue is exactly so he isn't playing now, but I think he will be back soon. I think he hurt himself dunking too hard.

Some things I like:

Weakside rotation - great timing:
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Attacks close out with nice drive and pull-up from mid range:
Read on Twitter


He is going to need to improve the outside shooting, but this would be nothing new for Toronto.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#836 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:18 pm

Madhouse wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:Not impressed w this draft at all.

Jabari isn't the best player on his team
Chet isn't the best on his team
Pablo isnt the best on his team
Ivey isn't the best on his team


There's no one who is that guy. It's a bad draft.


that really doesn't mean anything lol. It's all about potential.


He does have a point about them not being the best on their team.

Kessler can be a Gobert type which might make him better than Jabari.
Chet and Ivey is really close to being the best to be honest.
Paolo is definitely not the best but AJ might be drafted higher.

I think some of it is situation based. If the guy is not the best on the team you have to look at should they be but something is preventing it. Barnes is an example of that. If the answer is still no then that should be a flag.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#837 » by Karanpal » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:05 pm

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#838 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:36 pm

Karanpal wrote:Someone always drops. Who do you guys think can. Drop. I think duren hardy and bladwin Jr will all. Drop still don't think they are worth it but many do


Guys projected in the lottery most of the college season don't tend to fall right out the 1st round entirely. If they do there's usually a SERIOUS concern, typically health related or they drastically fell short of expectations but that's usually established fairly early on and you don't see them projected to go in the lottery months in advance. Duren & Hardy for sure aren't falling probably any further than absolute worst top 20 imo, I'd honestly be surprised if they didn't both make the lottery. I could see PB Jr potentially outside of the lottery but we just helped a great scouting team like SAS get 2 more shots outside of the lottery, they're already overloaded with guards and could use a forward, then you have MEM who's been excellent at drafting lately, DEN always likely to take a former lottery pick/not to mention good MP Jr insurance, OKC has a bunch...

So no I don't see any of these guys slipping out in the 2nd round which is what makes trading down so disappointing. Because could I see 1 of the 3 falling getting close to 20 (PB Jr being most likely imo) and for what?! We claim for a vet (actually to save MLSE $$)...at a point of complete redunancy and arguably where we needed help the least ie/ PF - Siakam, Barnes, Achuiwa...but hey let's get one more to eat up some minutes from Scottie & Precious smh anyways...

The only real former "potential lottery" names that I would expect to available when we draft are more on the levels of someone like BJ Boston this past draft ie/ Peyton Watson, JD Davidson, Bryce McGowens....maybe to even lesser degree Max Christie, Caleb Houstan but those guys obviously all seem like a bit more roll of the dice than guys like Hardy, Duren. Just gonna obviously hope & pray we spot THE steal of the draft but I'm certainly not expecting it.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#839 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:07 pm

Dalek wrote:In the 30s, the guy I really fits Toronto is Terrence Shannon Jr. I wanted him last year but he pulled out of the draft late. He is a strong athletic wing at about 6'6 and he is a smart defender - pretty high up in the Big 12 BPM. He just looks like a big NBA wing. Not sure what his back issue is exactly so he isn't playing now, but I think he will be back soon. I think he hurt himself dunking too hard.

Some things I like:

Weakside rotation - great timing:
Read on Twitter


Attacks close out with nice drive and pull-up from mid range:
Read on Twitter


He is going to need to improve the outside shooting, but this would be nothing new for Toronto.


That's a good option. Athletic SG who is a great defender. High IQ cutter. He's 21 years old, going to be 22. His wingspan is not that long and he's a decent shooter. Would you pick him over a Dyson Daniels who is over 3 years younger, also a good defender and potentially a better shooter. Not as athletic though. Shannon Jr. is still a good option.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#840 » by Dalek » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:46 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
Dalek wrote:In the 30s, the guy I really fits Toronto is Terrence Shannon Jr. I wanted him last year but he pulled out of the draft late. He is a strong athletic wing at about 6'6 and he is a smart defender - pretty high up in the Big 12 BPM. He just looks like a big NBA wing. Not sure what his back issue is exactly so he isn't playing now, but I think he will be back soon. I think he hurt himself dunking too hard.

Some things I like:

Weakside rotation - great timing:
Read on Twitter


Attacks close out with nice drive and pull-up from mid range:
Read on Twitter


He is going to need to improve the outside shooting, but this would be nothing new for Toronto.


That's a good option. Athletic SG who is a great defender. High IQ cutter. He's 21 years old, going to be 22. His wingspan is not that long and he's a decent shooter. Would you pick him over a Dyson Daniels who is over 3 years younger, also a good defender and potentially a better shooter. Not as athletic though. Shannon Jr. is still a good option.


I think Dyson is intriguing, but I doubt an 18 year old will be available in the 30s. By that point you get the 22 year-old players. At that point you could get a good shooter, but I do like a gamble on an athletic guy like Shannon Jr. Toronto does like to bring in superior athletes and he is a high motor, highly efficient finishing at the rim.

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