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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#501 » by heater4life » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:01 pm

Beenie wrote:Let Dragic go to the Bucks and if Mia sees them in the playoffs, Dragic trying to guard Jimmy or Herro will almost be like him still supporting the Heat.


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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#502 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:18 pm

I don’t think Dragic will sign here because we don’t have guaranteed minutes for him and I am sure he will value that most in selecting his next team.

Just the way it is. Gabe has done too good of a job.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#503 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:20 pm

Bucks just signed Bembry, Dragic coming home?
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#505 » by greg4012 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:29 pm

heater4life wrote:
With Caleb signing and Highsmith on a 10 day does that prohibit us from signing Gogi?



This is a good question--any clarity on this?
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#506 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:31 pm

greg4012 wrote:
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With Caleb signing and Highsmith on a 10 day does that prohibit us from signing Gogi?



This is a good question--any clarity on this?


No it doesn’t and highsmith can be let go whenever
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Post#507 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:04 pm

greg4012 wrote:
heater4life wrote:
With Caleb signing and Highsmith on a 10 day does that prohibit us from signing Gogi?



This is a good question--any clarity on this?


The 2 things are not related. Even if Highsmith was signed for the test of the year, we would still have 2 roster spots.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#508 » by somerandomdude » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:00 pm

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-notebook-tuesday-20220215-6wlwpnzqy5blfdkkzo673cebne-story.html

Martin’s deal is for the balance of the season. He then will become a restricted free agent on July 1. Based on where the Heat stand against the salary cap for their 2022-23 payroll, the Heat’s likely maximum offer would be a four-year, $44.4 million contract. Should an outside team exceed that figure, the Heat likely would be unable to march.


Caleb is an RFA next season. What kinda contract would you guys give Caleb?

Kinda crazy to throw big money at him. We don't need another Duncan/Tyler Johnson/etc situation and we also have to look into seeing if we can also retain Strus and Gabe, who will probably command money, as well.

Ideally, I'd say a good deal for us to retain Caleb is $7mil/yr for 3yrs, Player Option on the third year.

That annual amount can be bumped up to $10mil/yr, but we need a Team Option on the third year.

Either way, it's around $21mil guaranteed.

This should be enough to take care of Caleb while giving him time to establish himself (i.e., show consistency/improvement) as an NBA player. It also gives him flexibility to earn significantly more.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#509 » by Rodrizzle » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:06 pm

somerandomdude wrote:https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-notebook-tuesday-20220215-6wlwpnzqy5blfdkkzo673cebne-story.html

Martin’s deal is for the balance of the season. He then will become a restricted free agent on July 1. Based on where the Heat stand against the salary cap for their 2022-23 payroll, the Heat’s likely maximum offer would be a four-year, $44.4 million contract. Should an outside team exceed that figure, the Heat likely would be unable to march.


Caleb is an RFA next season. What kinda contract would you guys give Caleb?

Kinda crazy to throw big money at him. We don't need another Duncan/Tyler Johnson/etc situation and we also have to look into seeing if we can also retain Strus and Gabe, who will probably command money, as well.

Ideally, I'd say a good deal for us to retain Caleb is $7mil/yr for 3yrs, Player Option on the third year.

That annual amount can be bumped up to $10mil/yr, but we need a Team Option on the third year.

Either way, it's around $21mil guaranteed.

This should be enough to take care of Caleb while giving him time to establish himself (i.e., show consistency/improvement) as an NBA player. It also gives him flexibility to earn significantly more.


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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#510 » by somerandomdude » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:12 pm

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article258393318.html

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Heat had not yet expressed interest to Dragic’s camp in bringing him back this season, according to a league source.
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Post#511 » by heater4life » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:18 pm

somerandomdude wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article258393318.html

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Heat had not yet expressed interest to Dragic’s camp in bringing him back this season, according to a league source.


No need to express what is already known. 8-)
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Post#512 » by wade44 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:19 pm

somerandomdude wrote:https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-notebook-tuesday-20220215-6wlwpnzqy5blfdkkzo673cebne-story.html

Martin’s deal is for the balance of the season. He then will become a restricted free agent on July 1. Based on where the Heat stand against the salary cap for their 2022-23 payroll, the Heat’s likely maximum offer would be a four-year, $44.4 million contract. Should an outside team exceed that figure, the Heat likely would be unable to march.


Caleb is an RFA next season. What kinda contract would you guys give Caleb?

Kinda crazy to throw big money at him. We don't need another Duncan/Tyler Johnson/etc situation and we also have to look into seeing if we can also retain Strus and Gabe, who will probably command money, as well.

Ideally, I'd say a good deal for us to retain Caleb is $7mil/yr for 3yrs, Player Option on the third year.

That annual amount can be bumped up to $10mil/yr, but we need a Team Option on the third year.

Either way, it's around $21mil guaranteed.

This should be enough to take care of Caleb while giving him time to establish himself (i.e., show consistency/improvement) as an NBA player. It also gives him flexibility to earn significantly more.


Kind of nuts that Kz is basically the reason we didn’t sign Martin to a 2 year minimum contract like with did with Strus and Gabe. Would have been nice to have Martin at the minimum for 1 more season. I just hope the Heat don’t overpay
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#513 » by dshearn » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:23 pm

Pharenheit wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-notebook-tuesday-20220215-6wlwpnzqy5blfdkkzo673cebne-story.html

Martin’s deal is for the balance of the season. He then will become a restricted free agent on July 1. Based on where the Heat stand against the salary cap for their 2022-23 payroll, the Heat’s likely maximum offer would be a four-year, $44.4 million contract. Should an outside team exceed that figure, the Heat likely would be unable to march.


Caleb is an RFA next season. What kinda contract would you guys give Caleb?

Kinda crazy to throw big money at him. We don't need another Duncan/Tyler Johnson/etc situation and we also have to look into seeing if we can also retain Strus and Gabe, who will probably command money, as well.

Ideally, I'd say a good deal for us to retain Caleb is $7mil/yr for 3yrs, Player Option on the third year.

That annual amount can be bumped up to $10mil/yr, but we need a Team Option on the third year.

Either way, it's around $21mil guaranteed.

This should be enough to take care of Caleb while giving him time to establish himself (i.e., show consistency/improvement) as an NBA player. It also gives him flexibility to earn significantly more.


Kind of nuts that Kz is basically the reason we didn’t sign Martin to a 2 year minimum contract like with did with Strus and Gabe. Would have been nice to have Martin at the minimum for 1 more season. I just hope the Heat don’t overpay



I loved the johnson/ Dion year, but the heat have to remember what over pays causes.

Martin is probably my favorite Heat player, I love underdogs and really respect effort, but man even I am nervous. One we can loose him, but damn we could handicap the team with an overpay.

A 2 year deal would have been ideal.
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Post#514 » by AirP. » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:38 pm

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Post#515 » by twix2500 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:44 pm

dshearn wrote:
Pharenheit wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-notebook-tuesday-20220215-6wlwpnzqy5blfdkkzo673cebne-story.html



Caleb is an RFA next season. What kinda contract would you guys give Caleb?

Kinda crazy to throw big money at him. We don't need another Duncan/Tyler Johnson/etc situation and we also have to look into seeing if we can also retain Strus and Gabe, who will probably command money, as well.

Ideally, I'd say a good deal for us to retain Caleb is $7mil/yr for 3yrs, Player Option on the third year.

That annual amount can be bumped up to $10mil/yr, but we need a Team Option on the third year.

Either way, it's around $21mil guaranteed.

This should be enough to take care of Caleb while giving him time to establish himself (i.e., show consistency/improvement) as an NBA player. It also gives him flexibility to earn significantly more.


Kind of nuts that Kz is basically the reason we didn’t sign Martin to a 2 year minimum contract like with did with Strus and Gabe. Would have been nice to have Martin at the minimum for 1 more season. I just hope the Heat don’t overpay



I loved the johnson/ Dion year, but the heat have to remember what over pays causes.

Martin is probably my favorite Heat player, I love underdogs and really respect effort, but man even I am nervous. One we can loose him, but damn we could handicap the team with an overpay.

A 2 year deal would have been ideal.
Overpay was flipped for Butler, Iguodala, Crowder and then Lowry.

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Post#516 » by somerandomdude » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:59 pm

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#517 » by HEATVols865 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:49 pm

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somerandomdude wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article258393318.html

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Heat had not yet expressed interest to Dragic’s camp in bringing him back this season, according to a league source.


No need to express what is already known. 8-)

Stupid stupid move not bringing Dragic


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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#518 » by AirP. » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:11 am

HEATVols865 wrote:
heater4life wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article258393318.html



No need to express what is already known. 8-)

Stupid stupid move not bringing Dragic


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For as good as this franchise runs it sure does some highly questionable moves based off hot streaks, it got Waiters, T.Johnson, J.Johnson and Robinson paid contracts that other teams wouldn't even consider giving them, now it may not sign a guy (FOR THE MINIMUM) who was the top scorer for the team until he got hurt when they went to the finals... 18 months ago.

This team could have moved a guard or 2 in a trade package to acquire PJ Washington or Rui while knowing Oladipo was coming back soon and also know it was quite possible to add a guy like Dragic for the minimum if he were traded and bought out. A risk but these are the types of risks a team has to make to strengthen the roster for a playoff run.

Miami still has Morris although they've not green lit him although he's felt good enough to come back since early december and will have Yurtseven available who should be getting better through the practices, good enough to handle an upgrade of Dragic in the rotation.

Let's not mention that Dragic has a lot of experience in the playoffs while a few of Miami's rotation players have very little to none.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#519 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:13 am

With the greatest SG in Heat history being out for a little just makes more sense to bring back Dragic.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#520 » by IceColdCubano » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:29 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:With the greatest SG in Heat history being out for a little just makes more sense to bring back Dragic.

In the short term sure, use him off the bench to keep our guys fresh while we wait for Hero & Oladipo to return. Very unfair to him though because whos minutes is he going to cut into in the playoff's. There's nobody on the bench unit whos minutes should be cut other than our back up point guard if he gets injured. Right now our advantage from the bench is our youth/speed/3pt shooting something I remember him lacking the last year he was with us. His slashing days of breaking down the defense either from the top of the key or off a rebound are behind him.

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