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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1241 » by whitehops » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:05 am

Piston Pete wrote:If Portland is in rebuild mode, they might want to keep both picks for themselves.

They might be hoping we have an interest in trading Grant for the TPE. Maybe Grant for TPE/2nd?

Would we do that?


if i remember correctly there were reports around the trade deadline that they are committed to competing with lillard. essentially they're acquiring assets and reloading this offseason to make a push for the last three years of lillard's contract.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1242 » by Snakebites » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:23 am

I don’t think we can get a lotto pick for Grant.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1243 » by GreekAlex » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:27 am

Snakebites wrote:I don’t think we can get a lotto pick for Grant.



Not even a late one? :nonono:
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1244 » by Snakebites » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:32 am

GreekAlex wrote:
Snakebites wrote:I don’t think we can get a lotto pick for Grant.



Not even a late one? :nonono:

It’s possible I guess.

Unlikely IMO.
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Post#1245 » by Piston Pete » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:33 am

GreekAlex wrote:I’m not in fantasy land
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1246 » by whitehops » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:41 am

yeah more than grant not being worth a pick from 11-14 or whatever, i think it's just hard to find a team with a pick in that range who would make win-now moves.

finding a team in the top 10 to give us one of their picks for grant would have to be straight-up desperate.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1247 » by GreekAlex » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:43 am

Piston Pete wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:I’m not in fantasy land


Do you feel otherwise? LOL
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1248 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:23 am

I believe we could make a trade after this season is over, during the playoffs. It doesn't happen often but would make sense if Portland wanted to see how Grant plays post injury as well as finding out exactly where their picks will fall before making a deal with Detroit.

Eric Bledsoe's contract has to become fully guaranteed on June 29th. So this deal would have to happen before then.

Bledsoe + Portlands late lottery pick for Grant.... and then Detroit can not pick up the guarantee on Bledsoe's contract and only be on the hook for $3.9 million next season.

It was mentioned a few days before the deadline that Grant wasn't likely to be traded before the deadline, but that it could be something that happens this summer. That makes sense because we also get to evaluate Bagley as well as find out exactly where we're drafting. The NBA Draft Lottery will happen on May 17th, so in just 90 days we'll know exactly where we're picking in 2022 which also helps us know if we should keep Grant, or let him loose because we've got a top 3 pick that we'll go big with.
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Post#1249 » by MotorCade2 » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:32 am

bstein14 wrote:I believe we could make a trade after this season is over, during the playoffs. It doesn't happen often but would make sense if Portland wanted to see how Grant plays post injury as well as finding out exactly where their picks will fall before making a deal with Detroit.

Eric Bledsoe's contract has to become fully guaranteed on June 29th. So this deal would have to happen before then.

Bledsoe + Portlands late lottery pick for Grant.... and then Detroit can not pick up the guarantee on Bledsoe's contract and only be on the hook for $3.9 million next season.

It was mentioned a few days before the deadline that Grant wasn't likely to be traded before the deadline, but that it could be something that happens this summer. That makes sense because we also get to evaluate Bagley as well as find out exactly where we're drafting. The NBA Draft Lottery will happen on May 17th, so in just 90 days we'll know exactly where we're picking in 2022 which also helps us know if we should keep Grant, or let him loose because we've got a top 3 pick that we'll go big with.


I wouldn't assume we go big though. Ivey is in the running right along with them. Honestly I might like Ivey more than any of the bigs. It's close, at least for me.
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Post#1250 » by Piston Pete » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:48 am

I want to see Cade/Diallo more to finish this season. See how that pairing works off one another. I really think they’d compliment each other well. If so, there may not be a need for Ivey - unless he’s the BPA when we pick.
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Post#1251 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:26 am

Piston Pete wrote:I want to see Cade/Diallo more to finish this season. See how that pairing works off one another. I really think they’d compliment each other well. If so, there may not be a need for Ivey - unless he’s the BPA when we pick.


I think Diallo could be great as a backup wing from what we've seen of him.... but he really needs to be able to hit open jumpers, especially 3s, to pair well with Cade. I love his off ball cuts and movement paired with Cade but he needs to get in that gym and shoot the **** out of the ball this offseason to really have a chance to be a successful starter in this league. And this would be the year to do it for him because he'll be a FA in the summer of 2023 so he for sure needs to add that dimension to his game to really have a chance to get paid well in this league. He's proven he's a rotation player, but he needs to hit jumpers to take that next step.
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Post#1252 » by whitehops » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:50 am

bstein14 wrote:I think Diallo could be great as a backup wing from what we've seen of him.... but he really needs to be able to hit open jumpers, especially 3s, to pair well with Cade. I love his off ball cuts and movement paired with Cade but he needs to get in that gym and shoot the **** out of the ball this offseason to really have a chance to be a successful starter in this league. And this would be the year to do it for him because he'll be a FA in the summer of 2023 so he for sure needs to add that dimension to his game to really have a chance to get paid well in this league. He's proven he's a rotation player, but he needs to hit jumpers to take that next step.

i wouldn't hold my breath because he needs to completely rebuild his jumper from the ground up. his shot is very much like ish smith's, in that their footwork is really bad so they rely on elevation, which adds a hitch to their shot and makes them "arm shooters". it works for them in the mid range because they elevate for separation and don't need too much strength to put accuracy/touch into their shots but spot-up 3s are much different. on spot-up shots speed is pretty crucial in getting off open looks and footwork/efficiency of form play a huge part in that.

his shot isn't the only thing holding him back though. he obviously has his strengths: he's uber athletic, he's active, etc. but he also isn't the most cerebral player, isn't particularly skilled, doesn't make plays for his teammates and doesn't even always make the easy play. unless he somehow overcomes all those weaknesses i think his potential is being an energy wing off the bench, and not necessarily for a quality team.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1253 » by DET_Athletics » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:36 am

Honestly I think the perfect move is to trade Grant and Olynk to the Hawks during the draft for John Collins, Huerter and their lower first round pick this year. The reason for both teams is it balances out roster if we land Ivey and still gives us room to go after a Center. Plus it give the Hawks one more shot at free agency in 2023 with Olynk having the player option to decline, Grant's contract expiring along with Gallinari.

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Post#1254 » by El Chivo » Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:13 am

DET_Athletics wrote:Honestly I think the perfect move is to trade Grant and Olynk to the Hawks during the draft for John Collins, Huerter and their lower first round pick this year. The reason for both teams is it balances out roster if we land Ivey and still gives us room to go after a Center. Plus it give the Hawks one more shot at free agency in 2023 with Olynk having the player option to decline, Grant's contract expiring along with Gallinari.


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Post#1255 » by NYG » Wed Mar 2, 2022 3:34 am

bstein14 wrote:I believe we could make a trade after this season is over, during the playoffs. It doesn't happen often but would make sense if Portland wanted to see how Grant plays post injury as well as finding out exactly where their picks will fall before making a deal with Detroit.

Eric Bledsoe's contract has to become fully guaranteed on June 29th. So this deal would have to happen before then.

Bledsoe + Portlands late lottery pick for Grant.... and then Detroit can not pick up the guarantee on Bledsoe's contract and only be on the hook for $3.9 million next season.

It was mentioned a few days before the deadline that Grant wasn't likely to be traded before the deadline, but that it could be something that happens this summer. That makes sense because we also get to evaluate Bagley as well as find out exactly where we're drafting. The NBA Draft Lottery will happen on May 17th, so in just 90 days we'll know exactly where we're picking in 2022 which also helps us know if we should keep Grant, or let him loose because we've got a top 3 pick that we'll go big with.


I think if post-lotto both of Portland's picks are not top 4... they could use their TPE + their earlier pick for Myles Turner and Eric Bledsoe + their later pick for Jerami Grant and just see how they can make it fit.... Nurkic/Turner/Grant/Simons/Lillard
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Post#1256 » by tmorgan » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:06 am

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DET_Athletics wrote:Honestly I think the perfect move is to trade Grant and Olynk to the Hawks during the draft for John Collins, Huerter and their lower first round pick this year. The reason for both teams is it balances out roster if we land Ivey and still gives us room to go after a Center. Plus it give the Hawks one more shot at free agency in 2023 with Olynk having the player option to decline, Grant's contract expiring along with Gallinari.


No way Atlanta does this.


Atlanta doesn’t do that even without the FRP included.
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Post#1257 » by Manocad » Wed Mar 2, 2022 4:29 am

DET_Athletics wrote:Honestly I think the perfect move is to trade Grant and Olynk to the Hawks during the draft for John Collins, Huerter and their lower first round pick this year. The reason for both teams is it balances out roster if we land Ivey and still gives us room to go after a Center. Plus it give the Hawks one more shot at free agency in 2023 with Olynk having the player option to decline, Grant's contract expiring along with Gallinari.

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If the Pistons get to make any trade they want then the perfect move would be to trade Stew, KO and whatever other salary filler is required for Joel Embiid.
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Post#1258 » by DBC10 » Wed Mar 2, 2022 1:51 pm

DET_Athletics wrote:Honestly I think the perfect move is to trade Grant and Olynk to the Hawks during the draft for John Collins, Huerter and their lower first round pick this year. The reason for both teams is it balances out roster if we land Ivey and still gives us room to go after a Center. Plus it give the Hawks one more shot at free agency in 2023 with Olynk having the player option to decline, Grant's contract expiring along with Gallinari.

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They would maybe entertain the thought of a straight Grant for JC trade. I'm pretty plugged in the ATL Hawks, and they're not just going to gift assets away for Grant, that'd be ridiculous. Not with a looming Grant extension anyways that's going to be significant
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Post#1259 » by El Chivo » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:05 pm

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Post#1260 » by edmunder_prc » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:39 pm

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Yeah would like the Pelicans pick. Not sure how the salaries need to work for the trade or if the Blazers have a ton of cap space giving the Pistons a trade exception that maybe could turn into taking a big, terrible contract for another lottery pick?

Seems like a lot of talent in this draft 1-15, but no superstars. Get 3 of them and hope 2 turn into fringe all-stars to go along with Cade.

Absolutely also need a tall, super athletic lob catcher for Cade/Hayes for obvious reasons.

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