James Wiseman 2021/2022

[Samurai]

No one has any idea of what coaches are good at or not.. MJ would be a **** coach. Meanwhile Tyrone Lue, who peaked as an 8th man, is a solid coach

Mark Jackson was a good floor general. Too bad he’s a terrible leader

And so on and so on

Exactly. Just because someone was a good player at certain aspects does not mean they have the communication skills, attitude and/or temperament to be able to teach/coach/impart that skill to someone else. Performing and teaching are very different. A PE teacher who couldn't make a free throw may be a better teacher than a former pro who can't communicate effectively. Better to stick with people with a proven track record, like Milojevic or someone with a similar track record, than an unproven former player like Bogut. Put Bogut and Milojevic on the court right now and I'm pretty sure Bogut would set far better screens and grab a ton more rebounds but that doesn't mean Bogut would be a better coach for Wiseman (or Looney).

And if Milojevic isn't the answer, the team can move on later. But for a team trying to "win now", I'd rather take my chances on someone with a track record than someone without one.

[michaelm]

Catch, dunk and set real screens. We can't have both him and Kuminga pulling the David Lee slip screen every time. One of them needs to channel their inner Bogut.

Bring one of Bogut or Luke Walton in to coach screening.

Since Milojevic was a rough, tough blue-collar player himself and has coached bigs like Jokic, Bitadze and Zubac, is there some evidence that he is incapable of teaching someone how to set screens? He seems to have made a positive impact in Looney's board work this season; not sure what evidence there is that we need to discard his efforts and bring in more coaches based on what we've seen from Looney and before Wiseman plays a single game.

Draymond green gives Bogut a lot of credit for teaching him defense which is perhaps evidence that he might be effective coaching, and he did on field defensive coaching a la Draymond before Draymond.

But sure GSW got the best available with a proven track record of coaching elite bigs so why consider he needs help at this point in time ?, although I think the suggestion was more rhetorical than serious. Bogut settled in Australia with a young family wouldn’t come particularly for adjunct coaching wages anyway, it is not as though he was never paid as an NBA player.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

No one has any idea of what coaches are good at or not.. MJ would be a **** coach. Meanwhile Tyrone Lue, who peaked as an 8th man, is a solid coach

Mark Jackson was a good floor general. Too bad he’s a terrible leader

And so on and so on

Mark Jackson did not fail as a leader.
Mark Jackson got a Warrior team that was beaton down, did not play defense and did not make the playoffs.
Mark Jackson created a team that did make the playoffs and did play defense.
When Jackson was fired the players were upset. The players wanted Jackson to stay.

Knicks Mark Jackson had some speed.
Pacers Mark Jackson was a slow point guard but a great Passer.
Mark Jackson cut the Knicks apart with his passing. Against the Bulls the Bulls had to put Scottie Pippen on Jackson and have Pippen be physical with Jackson. In that era even more than now stars don't get called for fouls. Pippen was fouling Jackson but the calls were not made because Pippen was a bigger star than Jackson.

The Pacers set a lot of screens for both Jackson and Reggie Miller. Jackson needed those screens because he was a slow point guard.

Steph is a slow point guard. Steph had his career assists peak under Jackson. Jackson was having a lot of picks set for Steph.

Now days so often in game threads there are a handfull of posters begging for Curry to play on the ball. We saw Curry on the ball under Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson was trying to make Steph into Mark Jackon with a shot. Kerr took Curry off the ball to make Steph into a super version of Steve Kerr the player who was an off the ball only sort of a point guard player.

Kerr was right and Jackson was wrong. Steph is a better weopon off the ball. Of course that would Kill Stephs assists numbers but who cares. Jackson was a top 10 passer of all time. Steph is not a bad passer but Steph is not an elite passer but Steph is the best shooter of all time so getting Steph off the ball as a catch and shoot shooter is better than Steph on the ball as a passer that sometimes shoots off the dribble.

But Mark Jackson failed leader? No, Jackson was wildly successfull as the leader of the Warriors. Jackson turned the team arround. Steph just brought in the Spurs and Suns thinking and took the team to a higher level. Could Kerr have gotten a team that did not play defense and did not believe in itself turned arround like Jackson did? We don't know.

Jackson seems like a failure as a TV analyst but Jackson did not fail as a Warriors coach. Jackson got the team ready for Kerr.

[Knicks365247]

Great post.

If you replace Thibs right now with either Kerr/MJax for the Knicks I would be very confident to say that MJax would do the better job.

[Onus]

Great post.

If you replace Thibs right now with either Kerr/MJax for the Knicks I would be very confident to say that MJax would do the better job.

Mjax is thibbs. If you have a young team that needs an identity then mjax and thibs is your guy. They instill confidence and get their team to play hard and focus on defense. If you’re trying to take the next step and be successful in the playoffs then you’ll need another coach.

[whatisacenter]

why are we talking about MJax in the Wiseman thread??? He is a crappy person and will probably never be a HC in the NBA again.

[NeoWarriors]

why are we talking about MJax in the Wiseman thread??? He is a crappy person and will probably never be a HC in the NBA again.

Wiseman thread and Kuminga thread have both gone off the rails.

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[FNQ]

No one has any idea of what coaches are good at or not.. MJ would be a **** coach. Meanwhile Tyrone Lue, who peaked as an 8th man, is a solid coach

Mark Jackson was a good floor general. Too bad he’s a terrible leader

And so on and so on

Mark Jackson did not fail as a leader.
Mark Jackson got a Warrior team that was beaton down, did not play defense and did not make the playoffs.
Mark Jackson created a team that did make the playoffs and did play defense.
When Jackson was fired the players were upset. The players wanted Jackson to stay.

Knicks Mark Jackson had some speed.
Pacers Mark Jackson was a slow point guard but a great Passer.
Mark Jackson cut the Knicks apart with his passing. Against the Bulls the Bulls had to put Scottie Pippen on Jackson and have Pippen be physical with Jackson. In that era even more than now stars don't get called for fouls. Pippen was fouling Jackson but the calls were not made because Pippen was a bigger star than Jackson.

The Pacers set a lot of screens for both Jackson and Reggie Miller. Jackson needed those screens because he was a slow point guard.

Steph is a slow point guard. Steph had his career assists peak under Jackson. Jackson was having a lot of picks set for Steph.

Now days so often in game threads there are a handfull of posters begging for Curry to play on the ball. We saw Curry on the ball under Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson was trying to make Steph into Mark Jackon with a shot. Kerr took Curry off the ball to make Steph into a super version of Steve Kerr the player who was an off the ball only sort of a point guard player.

Kerr was right and Jackson was wrong. Steph is a better weopon off the ball. Of course that would Kill Stephs assists numbers but who cares. Jackson was a top 10 passer of all time. Steph is not a bad passer but Steph is not an elite passer but Steph is the best shooter of all time so getting Steph off the ball as a catch and shoot shooter is better than Steph on the ball as a passer that sometimes shoots off the dribble.

But Mark Jackson failed leader? No, Jackson was wildly successfull as the leader of the Warriors. Jackson turned the team arround. Steph just brought in the Spurs and Suns thinking and took the team to a higher level. Could Kerr have gotten a team that did not play defense and did not believe in itself turned arround like Jackson did? We don't know.

Jackson seems like a failure as a TV analyst but Jackson did not fail as a Warriors coach. Jackson got the team ready for Kerr.

Mike Malone created the defense. Ron Adams built on it.

Jackson’s offense was vanilla and we got much better the second he was gone.

Mark Jackson turned teammates against each other (Ezeli) and made other players upset with his Bible thumping. And even though Bogut was the only one who went public, there were more.

Mark Jackson hasn’t been seriously considered for a job since. He is a failure as a coach and no amount of rewriting history changes that. Find a better person to cape for - it really isn’t hard.

[shazam_guy]

Also reputedly had a problem with gay Warriors employees.

I agree. Not worth stanning.

[FNQ]

why are we talking about MJax in the Wiseman thread??? He is a crappy person and will probably never be a HC in the NBA again.

Wiseman thread and Kuminga thread have both gone off the rails.

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Every thread can be a Mark Jackson sucks thread if you just BELIEVE

[tarantism]

No one has any idea of what coaches are good at or not.. MJ would be a **** coach. Meanwhile Tyrone Lue, who peaked as an 8th man, is a solid coach

Mark Jackson was a good floor general. Too bad he’s a terrible leader

And so on and so on

Mark Jackson did not fail as a leader.
Mark Jackson got a Warrior team that was beaton down, did not play defense and did not make the playoffs.
Mark Jackson created a team that did make the playoffs and did play defense.
When Jackson was fired the players were upset. The players wanted Jackson to stay.

Knicks Mark Jackson had some speed.
Pacers Mark Jackson was a slow point guard but a great Passer.
Mark Jackson cut the Knicks apart with his passing. Against the Bulls the Bulls had to put Scottie Pippen on Jackson and have Pippen be physical with Jackson. In that era even more than now stars don't get called for fouls. Pippen was fouling Jackson but the calls were not made because Pippen was a bigger star than Jackson.

The Pacers set a lot of screens for both Jackson and Reggie Miller. Jackson needed those screens because he was a slow point guard.

Steph is a slow point guard. Steph had his career assists peak under Jackson. Jackson was having a lot of picks set for Steph.

Now days so often in game threads there are a handfull of posters begging for Curry to play on the ball. We saw Curry on the ball under Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson was trying to make Steph into Mark Jackon with a shot. Kerr took Curry off the ball to make Steph into a super version of Steve Kerr the player who was an off the ball only sort of a point guard player.

Kerr was right and Jackson was wrong. Steph is a better weopon off the ball. Of course that would Kill Stephs assists numbers but who cares. Jackson was a top 10 passer of all time. Steph is not a bad passer but Steph is not an elite passer but Steph is the best shooter of all time so getting Steph off the ball as a catch and shoot shooter is better than Steph on the ball as a passer that sometimes shoots off the dribble.

But Mark Jackson failed leader? No, Jackson was wildly successfull as the leader of the Warriors. Jackson turned the team arround. Steph just brought in the Spurs and Suns thinking and took the team to a higher level. Could Kerr have gotten a team that did not play defense and did not believe in itself turned arround like Jackson did? We don't know.

Jackson seems like a failure as a TV analyst but Jackson did not fail as a Warriors coach. Jackson got the team ready for Kerr.

Mike Malone created the defense. Ron Adams built on it.

Jackson’s offense was vanilla and we got much better the second he was gone.

Mark Jackson turned teammates against each other (Ezeli) and made other players upset with his Bible thumping. And even though Bogut was the only one who went public, there were more.

Mark Jackson hasn’t been seriously considered for a job since. He is a failure as a coach and no amount of rewriting history changes that. Find a better person to cape for - it really isn’t hard.

THANK YOU. Why are there people still on the Mark Jackson train?

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[Ilovethebay]

Also reputedly had a problem with gay Warriors employees.

I agree. Not worth stanning.

This played a bigger (biggest) part than most want to admit.

[Old_Blue]

Also reputedly had a problem with gay Warriors employees.

A link to a reputable source would be nice. Otherwise, it's just unsubstantiated rumor...in other words, garbage.

[DevinVassell]

Also reputedly had a problem with gay Warriors employees.

A link to a reputable source would be nice. Otherwise, it's just unsubstantiated rumor...in other words, garbage.

An unsubstantiated rumor lol.

Just Google it in 5 secs. It's not hard. Is Andre Iguodala a reputable source?

[GSWFan1994]

Also reputedly had a problem with gay Warriors employees.

A link to a reputable source would be nice. Otherwise, it's just unsubstantiated rumor...in other words, garbage.

Comrade... as far as I know, using Google is not forbidden in Mother Russia!

[whatisacenter]

Back to Wiseman......I can't wait to see him on the floor with this roster! Really hoping all the work he has put in with coach Dejan shows up sooner than later. I know he won't step right on the floor and be ready to make a serious contribution but I hope he shows up by the postseason.

[tarantism]

Back to Wiseman......I can't wait to see him on the floor with this roster! Really hoping all the work he has put in with coach Dejan shows up sooner than later. I know he won't step right on the floor and be ready to make a serious contribution but I hope he shows up by the postseason.

The fact that he said he's basically day to day right now makes me feel like we could get him back in a little more than a week. I bet he's been playing scrimmages all through the break.

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[DAWill1128]

I am just hoping he's stronger which looks to be the case. I thought last year this guy is really tall, amazing length, awesome run and jump athlete, good shot for a guy his size, decent skills for a guy his size his age.

But a lot of times I thought he got pushed out of the way on rebounds, didn't get around guys to contest shots, was a little easy for guys on offense to push into him on drives and post ups. The lack of girth and strength negated some of his physical tools on defense.

On offense I always thought if he was stronger he could get better position when posting up, and not get pushed off his shot release so easily.

I was in the camp that if we got Dwight Howard's personal trainer/pharmaceutical specialist in here we could probably win the chip with Wiseman.

[The-Power]

Apparently word is that Wiseman is expected to be back on March 1st (Dieter Kurtenbach on the Locked On Podcast).

[whatisacenter]

Apparently word is that Wiseman is expected to be back on March 1st (Dieter Kurtenbach on the Locked On Podcast).

I haven't been listening to Locked on Warriors since the new guy, Cyrus, took over for Wes. He was too much of a homer for me. I should give him another try. Good news on Wiseman's return!