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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#141 » by drchaos » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:01 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
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XtremeDunkz wrote:Not sure how you can watch this and think Ben freaking Simmons makes the Nets better than Harden did. I'm sorry. I know the narrative the last couple weeks but...

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The Harden the Nets had their last 10 games together is not the Harden you saw last night.

When he wants out he quits on his team.



Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.


Not sure about that.

He really tuned out.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#142 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:11 pm

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drchaos wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:Not sure how you can watch this and think Ben freaking Simmons makes the Nets better than Harden did. I'm sorry. I know the narrative the last couple weeks but...

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The Harden the Nets had their last 10 games together is not the Harden you saw last night.

When he wants out he quits on his team.



Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.


That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.

Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#143 » by rzzzzz » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:17 pm

76ciology wrote:I know its the Wolves. But it’s just business as usual for Embiid and Harden while having those two frees up things for guys like Maxey and Thybulle with a lot of opportunistic baskets of transition or off the gravity Embiid or Harden generates.


Plus a lot of open looks for Tobi. Daryl was solid about holding onto Maxey, who just ignited last night, getting back to his natural tendencies. And if Thybulle can now manage even a low double figure scoring average, he’s going to be worth all the attention.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#144 » by SoulJah » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:24 pm

Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#145 » by CometGM » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:27 pm

They do look scary, but it all comes down to how they perform in the playoffs. They haven't shown yet that they can overcome the deer in the headlights look once things get really tight deeper in the playoffs.

That said, if they can overcome that they definitely have the talent to win it all.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#146 » by khufure » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:28 pm

Ugh the one team I didn't want to get better. For some reason (he wears #21) the Bulls get owned by the 76ers. With Caruso, Ball, Ayo we got the defenders for Harden at least.


... Seems like Harden gets disinterested or whatever a year or two in. Even if he's more like the MVP Harden of 2018 is he gonna keep it up for years? Dunno if I believe that, especially in a smaller town like Philly.
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Post#147 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:30 pm

Nets should’ve traded him west
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#148 » by HotelVitale » Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:31 pm

SoulJah wrote:Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it


Any time you're ready to make a real point, we're here for it. He shot 9 FTs last night, basically all of which were obvious fouls. And he's averaged 8 FTs per game this year in BKN, so virtually no change to what he's been doing all year. He also scored 19 other pts (on 5/7 from deep) and dished 12 dimes. Lots to talk about but some 5-year old point about 'flopping' had nothing to do with last night's game.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#149 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:13 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:Calm down man. They're beating the Wolves not the Suns. And there's still a quarter and a half to play.
Besides Free throw shooting, Philly dominated Minnesota.

Fast Break Points:
Philly 23
Minnesota 4

Biggest Lead:
Philly 35
Minnesota 5

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That fast break statistic is meaningful. Harden is great at both rebounding the basketball and looking up court fort easy transition opportunities. He did that multiple times last night. It is one big thing the Sixers' offense was missing without Simmons. If Harden can claw back the transition aspect of the offense, while adding halfcourt efficiency that Simmns couldn't see in his dreams, the Sixers offense should be in excellent shape.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#150 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

Lalouie wrote:
thenbaman wrote:
Lalouie wrote:he ain't pushin' for bradley beal anymore[/q
Beal may be joining them this summer is the word going around. :nod:


thybulle and maxey? me,,,i wouldn't ask for less
beal's,injured, shooting has been declining for 3 or 4 yrs
as a 10 year injured vet traded with a 24yr old and 21yr old,,,,i would'nt do it


Forgetting the salary differential, I wouldn't trade Maxey for Beal straight up right now. Maxey is up to shooting splits of 50.4/39.5/87.3. And HE IS ONLY TWENTY ONE.

Only one game, but the space that Maxey is going to be able to exploit with his speed - because of the combined gravity of Embiid and Harden - is going to be amazing, IMO.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#151 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:27 pm

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XtremeDunkz wrote:
drchaos wrote:
The Harden the Nets had their last 10 games together is not the Harden you saw last night.

When he wants out he quits on his team.



Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.


That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.

Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.


I have watched virtually every game that Ben Simmons has played since he entered the NBA. I do not know where you are getting this "watch what Ben's going to be able to do as the 3rd option" ish from. The ball is going to primarily be in either KD's or Kyrie's hands in the halfcourt - as it should be. Ben can't shoot. He is not much of a pick and roll guy. He is not - for his size - the greatest finisher. And he sure as hell won't be generating offense from the free throw line.

What SPECIFIC OFFENSIVE SKILLS has Ben Simmons demonstrated IN HIS ENTIRE NBA CAREER that lead you to say we are going to be "shocked" at his offensive output? Huh?

He will defend like a DPOY guy. He will certainly generate points in transition. But in the 4th quarter of playoff games, Ben Simmons has shown ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSIVE SKILLS WHATSOEVER. They take the ball OUT of his hands. He REFUSES to shoot.

So, please explain - based on Ben's demonstrated history - where this "shocking" 4th quarter offense is going to come from.

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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#152 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:31 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
SoulJah wrote:Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it


Any time you're ready to make a real point, we're here for it. He shot 9 FTs last night, basically all of which were obvious fouls. And he's averaged 8 FTs per game this year in BKN, so virtually no change to what he's been doing all year. He also scored 19 other pts (on 5/7 from deep) and dished 12 dimes. Lots to talk about but some 5-year old point about 'flopping' had nothing to do with last night's game.


100% agree.

As I said, if the GB wasn't already filled with posts from Embiid/Sixers haters, we haven't seen anything yet.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#153 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:02 pm

CometGM wrote:They do look scary, but it all comes down to how they perform in the playoffs. They haven't shown yet that they can overcome the deer in the headlights look once things get really tight deeper in the playoffs.

That said, if they can overcome that they definitely have the talent to win it all.


Playoffs is heavy iso ball and sixers have two of the league’s best
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#154 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:03 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:Calm down man. They're beating the Wolves not the Suns. And there's still a quarter and a half to play.
Besides Free throw shooting, Philly dominated Minnesota.

Fast Break Points:
Philly 23
Minnesota 4

Biggest Lead:
Philly 35
Minnesota 5

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That fast break statistic is meaningful. Harden is great at both rebounding the basketball and looking up court fort easy transition opportunities. He did that multiple times last night. It is one big thing the Sixers' offense was missing without Simmons. If Harden can claw back the transition aspect of the offense, while adding halfcourt efficiency that Simmns couldn't see in his dreams, the Sixers offense should be in excellent shape.


Thybulle and Maxey’s speed are also elite. Perfect for leakouts
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#155 » by eyeatoma » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:04 pm

kio80 wrote:I know Embiid and Harden are ugly af, but calling them scary is kinda mean


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They're actually pretty good looking individuals.

But hey I really don't care if I'm ugly as **** if I get to go home to this every night:

https://www.google.com/search?q=anna+de+paula&sxsrf=APq-WBvrCsnHohXh0nQoBBu0MNQvsqqbyQ:1645898601038&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj40M2L-p32AhXlheYKHXDUC7wQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1279&bih=1329&dpr=1.5#imgrc=fP0uJbKix6Am2M

These two are actually in love, nothing to do with "the money".
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#156 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:06 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:
drchaos wrote:
The Harden the Nets had their last 10 games together is not the Harden you saw last night.

When he wants out he quits on his team.



Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.


That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.

Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.


Simmons is a "no option," Curry would be the Nets third option over Simmons.
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The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#157 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:07 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
USWAY wrote:Harden is making it look easy. Philly's achilles heel in the playoffs has always been getting easy buckets. Seems like everything is work. He's going to be huge there.

I guess you’ve never seen Hardens playoff history.


Even before the Harden trade, I thought this was overblown. He’s had a few bad elimination games, but as a whole, he’s put up some of the best advanced metrics during the playoffs over the last 5 years.

His playoff RAPTOR rankings (>100 mins):

16-17: 10th
17-18: 4th
18-19: 8th
19-20: 3rd
20-21: 5th
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Bona/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Drummond/Broome
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#158 » by bebopdeluxe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:13 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:
USWAY wrote:Harden is making it look easy. Philly's achilles heel in the playoffs has always been getting easy buckets. Seems like everything is work. He's going to be huge there.

I guess you’ve never seen Hardens playoff history.


Even before the Harden trade, I thought this was overblown. He’s had a few bad elimination games, but as a whole, he’s put up some of the best advanced metrics during the playoffs over the last 5 years.

His playoff RAPTORs rankings (>100 mins):

16-17: 10th
17-18: 4th
18-19: 8th
19-20: 3rd
20-21: 5th


What are you doing? Trying to answer a post with FACTS?!?

Bro - this is the RealGM GB - home of the HAWT TAKEZ, and a "fact-free" zone. Please try to remember that.

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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#159 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:18 pm

SoulJah wrote:Harden is back to his flopping ways and referees are back to falling for it



He's going to get to the line really easily with the Sixers for two reasons, Embiid puts teams in the bonus by himself, and the Harden/Embiid pick is going to be a nightmare to deal with. If you switch your big onto Harden he can attack there, or even worse they can just go to Embiid on the mismatch, there isn't a single wing in the NBA that can guard Embiid on a switch.


This tandem is going to destroy switch happy teams IMO.
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Re: The Sixers Look Scary 

Post#160 » by kuclas » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:21 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:

Sure but if they kept him past the trade deadline he would have locked back in.


That's a serious risk for someone who's about to become an unrestricted free agent. Brooklyn did great given the circumstances.

Let's circle back to this in a few weeks once everyone's back in the lineup. People will be shocked how good Simmons is as the 3rd option.


I have watched virtually every game that Ben Simmons has played since he entered the NBA. I do not know where you are getting this "watch what Ben's going to be able to do as the 3rd option" ish from. The ball is going to primarily be in either KD's or Kyrie's hands in the halfcourt - as it should be. Ben can't shoot. He is not much of a pick and roll guy. He is not - for his size - the greatest finisher. And he sure as hell won't be generating offense from the free throw line.

What SPECIFIC OFFENSIVE SKILLS has Ben Simmons demonstrated IN HIS ENTIRE NBA CAREER that lead you to say we are going to be "shocked" at his offensive output? Huh?

He will defend like a DPOY guy. He will certainly generate points in transition. But in the 4th quarter of playoff games, Ben Simmons has shown ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSIVE SKILLS WHATSOEVER. They take the ball OUT of his hands. He REFUSES to shoot.

So, please explain - based on Ben's demonstrated history - where this "shocking" 4th quarter offense is going to come from.

Thanks!


I think Simmons will be ok with the nets. In Philadelphia the sixers were too afraid to take the ball out of Simmons hands (except for the Toronto series when jimmy butler took over point guard duties in the 4th quarter in 2019.

Notice the two hawks game sixers won when Milton was playing the point in 4th quarter of game 2 and Maxey the point in game 6.

Sixers had actually taken the lead with milton running the point in game 7 as well. But than sixers handed the ball back into Simmons had and took Milton out. And we know the rest is history with that game.

So with kyrie or even Kd as primary ball handlers in the 4th. Simmons can still be effective as the jack of all trades player

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