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Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#821 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:11 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:
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GBPackers47 wrote:This should be studied as one of the greatest negotiations in sports history from the player/agent side.

Damn well played by Rodgers.


It turns out a back to back MVP has a lot of leverage. Who knew?


I mean if you ignore the fact that Rodgers started this negotiation before he even won the 1st one of the back-to-back then yeah, it’s painfully obvious.

But before that first MVP, every talking head and fan said Rodgers is done. It’s not time to move on just yet, but the end is near. The franchise then doubled down on that take by trading up for Love in the first round. Meanwhile, Rodgers is deadass saying “I’m not done” “I want to play into my 40s” “I want to retire a Packer.” At that time, from Rodgers perspective, those goals ALL happening are looking grim at best.

I say best in sports history because Rodgers HAD to win back-to-back MVPs for this entire thing to play out. He didn’t just sleepwalk into the last 2 seasons and happen to be the best player in the league. Everyone else didn’t collectively just get worse while he stayed the same.

A 38 year old quarterback just got paid $200 million, from the same GM that traded up for his replacement just 2 years ago, in a league where market altering deals are reserved for guys 10 years younger.

Rodgers now has everything he wants. Highest paid player in football. Playing into his 40s. And, most likely, retiring a Packer.

I say it should be studied because you see guys fail in negotiations every single year by “betting on themselves” (Dennis Schroeder being the most recent laughing stock of the sports world).

When you bet on yourself, you HAVE to deliver.


C'mon man, that is not even close to true. He had a down couple years sure. A couple injures, a stale McCarthy offense, and a first year in a new system all contributed. But there was nothing to suggest that his arm was any less than (like Peyton's at the end) or that his ability to extend plays with his legs, and pocket presence, had deteriorated. Really just an embarrassing miscalculation by management.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#822 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:11 pm

Can't wait for September. Hopefully it's the Cowboys coming to Lambeau on Sunday night.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#823 » by Ripster72 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:14 pm

Not thrilled by this in the slightest.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#824 » by GBPackers47 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:20 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Amazed that people are dunking on people over this. They were set up to win the last two years and kicked so much money down the street. They choked twice.

Long story short, there’s no way this team can bring the same level of talent back in the next 2-3 years but we somehow think they’re going to be a better team.

Rude awakening incoming


Why?

There are ways to improve your team without spending boat loads of money.

Here’s one: Don’t trade up for a QB in the first round and instead, take a high-potential skill player (even if you have to trade up) that our current HoF QB can build chemistry with over time, like he did with, oh idk, the now best WR is football that 90% of this fan base wanted to outright CUT as recently as 4 years ago.
ughhh I dunno. Because they're about to cut legit contributors and only being able to replace them if Gute absolutely nails the draft and gets about 4 instant contributors 2-3 of which are starters in which case they'll be about the same.

But yes continue to ask why?

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Yea I do….why?

Who that is going to be cut was both a major contributor to this teams success AND played enough games for it to count last year?

Be pissed that we can’t afford the real MVPs of last year, the castoffs that we got for nothing like Campbell and Douglas. But I’m not losing sleep thinking Preston Smith moves the needle for us.

Last year was the first time that we made consistent, smart, veteran FA moves during the season. Guys like Whitney Mercilus, albeit hurt and not a major contributor, definitely could have gone anywhere else but GB.

Rodgers does not sign that deal to stay here if there isn’t some sort of agreement to stop ****ing around with the roster. I guarantee you dudes will sign here for cheap because I believe Rodgers 100% when he says guys want to play with him. It might not be in the off-season, but absolutely during the season. Hell, we were in the market for OBJ until he signed with the Rams for $750k IN F******* BITCOIN.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#825 » by Isocleas2 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:27 pm

Bummed we brought Rodgers back. They'll mortgage the future and win a couple more nfc north titles but that's about it. They push the rebuild off a couple more years but it'll be much harder in the future with an even worse cap situation and less picks (no rodgers/Adam's trade haul).

Might be easier to swallow if Rodgers wasn't so unlikable.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#826 » by LikeABosh » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:31 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:Imagine being a fan of a team and being upset that your team is bringing back their Hall of Fame QB, who's coming off BACK-TO-BACK MVP seasons. Unbelievable.

Like it or not, if anybody is worth that money, it's him. And with the salary cap going up, it's just a matter of time before other QB's pass that deal up.

We're still contenders for the foreseeable future. Had Rodgers left, I doubt that'd be the case.


Definitely not a reason to be upset, but I do think there was a good opportunity to sell high on Rodgers. Not mad either way. I like 13 win seasons even we don't win the Owl :lol:
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#827 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:35 pm

Some of y'all would really rather become a 7-10 team for the foreseeable future than bring back the mvp. Weirdo behavior.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#828 » by LikeABosh » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:39 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#829 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:41 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Some of y'all would really rather become a 7-10 team for the foreseeable future than bring back the mvp. Weirdo behavior.

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There is no guarantee we aren't 7-10 even with Rodgers. Fields could be a good QB, with 1 year of growth the Bears can be good. Vikings have some weapons and last I heard were considering trading for Watson. We have a tough schedule and are going to lose some key players.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#830 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:46 pm

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XtremeDunkz wrote:Some of y'all would really rather become a 7-10 team for the foreseeable future than bring back the mvp. Weirdo behavior.

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There is no guarantee we aren't 7-10 even with Rodgers. Fields could be a good QB, with 1 year of growth the Bears can be good. Vikings have some weapons and last I heard were considering trading for Watson. We have a tough schedule and are going to lose some key players.
Lol please. We all know we will win the division every year at the very worst.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#831 » by soboMP3 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:49 pm

Packers stat people should spend the next few years figuring out how to minimize playoff games at Lambeau for the foreseeable future... re-evaluate each week starting in November for best matchups and best open-air stadiums in warm climates. I'm mostly serious.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#832 » by PintSizedBox10 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:50 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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I'll clarify: If the contract isn't bonkers like first reported and more cap friendly, I'm fine.

Keep Gute.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#833 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 7:59 pm

soboMP3 wrote:Packers stat people should spend the next few years figuring out how to minimize playoff games at Lambeau for the foreseeable future... re-evaluate each week starting in November for best matchups and best open-air stadiums in warm climates. I'm mostly serious.



Or build a dome...I know, I know the Lambeau mystique......
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#834 » by RRyder823 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:02 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:
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Why?

There are ways to improve your team without spending boat loads of money.

Here’s one: Don’t trade up for a QB in the first round and instead, take a high-potential skill player (even if you have to trade up) that our current HoF QB can build chemistry with over time, like he did with, oh idk, the now best WR is football that 90% of this fan base wanted to outright CUT as recently as 4 years ago.
ughhh I dunno. Because they're about to cut legit contributors and only being able to replace them if Gute absolutely nails the draft and gets about 4 instant contributors 2-3 of which are starters in which case they'll be about the same.

But yes continue to ask why?

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Yea I do….why?

Who that is going to be cut was both a major contributor to this teams success AND played enough games for it to count last year?

Be pissed that we can’t afford the real MVPs of last year, the castoffs that we got for nothing like Campbell and Douglas. But I’m not losing sleep thinking Preston Smith moves the needle for us.

Last year was the first time that we made consistent, smart, veteran FA moves during the season. Guys like Whitney Mercilus, albeit hurt and not a major contributor, definitely could have gone anywhere else but GB.

Rodgers does not sign that deal to stay here if there isn’t some sort of agreement to stop ****ing around with the roster. I guarantee you dudes will sign here for cheap because I believe Rodgers 100% when he says guys want to play with him. It might not be in the off-season, but absolutely during the season. Hell, we were in the market for OBJ until he signed with the Rams for $750k IN F******* BITCOIN.


Act all you want like those players didn't contribute heavily to winning but it doesn't make it true or that they'll be easily replaced

This will be a worse team then last year losing quality players that arent likely to be replaced in the same draft immediately. Not sure how you can rationally argue otherwise but I'm sure you might try



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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#835 » by El Duderino » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:05 pm

Ripster72 wrote:Not thrilled by this in the slightest.


My thought also
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#836 » by Dennis Reynolds » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:08 pm

Read on Twitter


Gotta say I'm kinda confused by Rodgers saying he hasn't signed a contract yet. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. :dontknow:
At least he's saying the figures aren't as big as reported.

It better not be 40+mil per year or anywhere near that tbh or I'm gonna personally smack you across the face Aaron! :no:
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#837 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:08 pm

Adams got the tag.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#838 » by RRyder823 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:09 pm

Just saw what Seattle got from Denver. I wouldve jumped on that deal

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#839 » by leroyjw10 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:09 pm

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If that's on the table Love should be off this team by sunset.

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If this is true, then absolutely. I don't know if I'd buy multiple teams unloading a 2nd rounder for him, but all you need is one.


It is a bad draft for QBs, so he probably looks good in comparison. Now would be the time to trade him.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#840 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:16 pm

Detroit always loves our players....let's trade them Love for pick #32

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