NYC Mandate: Kyrie Irving Eligibility Discussion

[MGrand15]

I saw a tweet commenting how Ny Yankees unvax players can still play but not Kyrie, in comparing Bronx to Brooklyn unfair eligibility.

Is this true? if so, can someone explain to me how?

Yankee Stadium is outdoor

The stadium is irrelevant. the mandate for venues was lifted. the mandate keeping kyrie out is the private employer mandate, which applies to the yankees where they play indoor or outdoor

That's what I don't understand. There's a bunch of news about Yankee players not being able to travel for Toronto games (BTW the MLB is ready to fight the ruling because there used to be an exception for athletes and performers). NO news at all about their players not being able to play at home. Shouldn't the mandate apply to them too? It seems like it doesn't.

Wouldn't the mandate also apply to Kyrie practicing with the team?

It feels like NYC just threw in that Kyrie isn't allowed to player due to the private sector mandate at the last minute when they lifted the public mandate. The wording of the rule implies that the Nets should be able to give Kyrie an exemption with reasonable accommodations like testing, mask use, etc.

[MrDollarBills]

Joe Tsai needs to put his foot down here.

The city has basically targeted his team and his players. If i'm tsai im playing the Nets games in newark until the city lifts the restrictions, and threatening to move the team back to NJ.

Maybe im watching too much of the show "Billions", but if bobby axelrod owned the nets Kyrie would have been on the court months ago

Given that tickets are already sold for the entire regular season, I don't think Tsai would consider relocating games. Playoff tickets have not been sold, so that's more realistic. However, Tsai owns Barclays. Would he give up the playoff game revenue so that Kyrie could play? I think it comes down to money. If the profit is greater by going an extra round or two in a different arena, then maybe he makes the move.

Moving the games are a non starter. Logistically it would be a nightmare considering the Devils are still playing games as well.

They need to sue the city, or threaten to defy the mandate. Adams is clearly targeting Irving.

The very idea that unvaccinated players can enter Barclays and can play but Kyrie cannot is absurd. The very idea that unvaccinated Yankees can enter and play in the Bronx but Kyrie can't in Brooklyn is absurd.

The city is targeting one person here. This isn't about public health and safety especially when you look at how the mandate was drawn up and then quietly altered in the first place. This is pure politics.

Defy the mandate, and sue the city. The Nets, NBA, and NBAPA should be dragging city hall into court TODAY.

[MrDollarBills]

Yankee Stadium is outdoor

The stadium is irrelevant. the mandate for venues was lifted. the mandate keeping kyrie out is the private employer mandate, which applies to the yankees where they play indoor or outdoor

That's what I don't understand. There's a bunch of news about Yankee players not being able to travel for Toronto games (BTW the MLB is ready to fight the ruling because there used to be an exception for athletes and performers). NO news at all about their players not being able to play at home. Shouldn't the mandate apply to them too? It seems like it doesn't.

Wouldn't the mandate also apply to Kyrie practicing with the team?

It feels like NYC just threw in that Kyrie isn't allowed to player due to the private sector mandate at the last minute when they lifted the public mandate. The wording of the rule implies that the Nets should be able to give Kyrie an exemption with reasonable accommodations like testing, mask use, etc.

Where are the team's lawyers FFS?

[Hello Brooklyn]

Joe Tsai needs to put his foot down here.

The city has basically targeted his team and his players. If i'm tsai im playing the Nets games in newark until the city lifts the restrictions, and threatening to move the team back to NJ.

Maybe im watching too much of the show "Billions", but if bobby axelrod owned the nets Kyrie would have been on the court months ago

I think the Nets have actually discussed this. But would be a pretty a embarrassing move to have to play in NJ again.

Tsai should just pay the fines at this point.

[NetsJets]

I saw a tweet commenting how Ny Yankees unvax players can still play but not Kyrie, in comparing Bronx to Brooklyn unfair eligibility.

Is this true? if so, can someone explain to me how?

Yankee Stadium is outdoor

The stadium is irrelevant. the mandate for venues was lifted. the mandate keeping kyrie out is the private employer mandate, which applies to the yankees where they play indoor or outdoor

Yankees are private too or not?

[Mamba81p]

Adams is the typical cop: dumb, corrupt and arrogant

[Eatgreenz]

Adams is the typical cop: dumb, corrupt and arrogant

This is a fact!!!!!

[MrDollarBills]

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Well, the NBA isn't on our side either.

So Kyrie can attend games in the stands 5 feet away from the court, but he can't enter the team's home locker room?

None of this makes any sense and Adam Silver should be embarrassed for levying this fine. It's nonsense.

[ajones9219]

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Well, the NBA isn't on our side either.

So Kyrie can attend games in the stands 5 feet away from the court, but he can't enter the team's home locker room?

None of this makes any sense and Adam Silver should be embarrassed for levying this fine. It's nonsense.

Whether you think it's goofy or not, the commissioner of one the major sports leagues isn't going to go against government mandates. The need cooperation of government bodies to exist.

[GTR11]

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Well, the NBA isn't on our side either.

So Kyrie can attend games in the stands 5 feet away from the court, but he can't enter the team's home locker room?

None of this makes any sense and Adam Silver should be embarrassed for levying this fine. It's nonsense.

Dude attending same flights, practice facility and can sit court site with rest of the crowd

[RoyceDa59]

The strange caveat here is Ontario’s Covid rules, as it likely Raps and Nets my face off in the playin in Toronto, in which case Kyrie can’t play.

[bubonicphoniks]

Where is the NBA and player union on this?

Unreal.

[Shark]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this (not that there's any point). Kyrie can sit and mingle with a large, packed crowd of people in an indoor arena, but can't play with his teammates, whom he'd be around with all the time anyway? It doesn't make any **** sense. None of this is about anyone's safety.

If it was about anyone's safety he wouldn't have lifted the mask mandate for schools, which were hit hard by omicron. Or for restaurants, gyms, and movie theaters whose workers will have to deal with several people everyday and be at risk if there's a new variant that triggers another wave.

Either keep the mandates in place or get rid of them entirely. It really doesn't make sense to be this halfassed with the measures just to prove some dumbass point.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm now convinced Eric Adams is not going to repeal the rules. Hes intent on keeping this ridiculous rule and looking like an idiot.

I hope Kyrie keeps sitting courtside. I hope it keeps getting attention. I hope Adams can't go anywhere without being heckled or asked about it.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm now convinced Eric Adams is not going to repeal the rules. Hes intent on keeping this ridiculous rule and looking like an idiot.

I hope Kyrie keeps sitting courtside. I hope it keeps getting attention. I hope Adams can't go anywhere without being heckled or asked about it.

I bet the mandate ends in June or July.

Kyrie is being targeted by the Mayor, but he also shares the blame in this. However, i can't condone how asinine this all is.

[Evalar]

I wish one journalist would ask him to provide the science he is using that makes the mandate necessary. None of the interviewers I've seen have pushed back and let him get away with saying, "It sends the wrong message" with no further explanation needed.

I'm not in the US but I can't believe what he is allowed to get away with looking at his Twitter people are posting pictures of homeless people, crimes, toddlers still wearing masks and more and a couple of hours later he's posting a pic of himself drinking a smoothie. It really is mind blowing he has no shame. By the way i'm in the UK so i'm not preaching because we are a sh*t show ourselves but I can't believe how brazen he is, KD seems spot on when he called him an attention seeker!!

[Prokorov]

I'm now convinced Eric Adams is not going to repeal the rules. Hes intent on keeping this ridiculous rule and looking like an idiot.

I hope Kyrie keeps sitting courtside. I hope it keeps getting attention. I hope Adams can't go anywhere without being heckled or asked about it.

I bet the mandate ends in June or July.

Kyrie is being targeted by the Mayor, but he also shares the blame in this. However, i can't condone how asinine this all is.

No matter how much you disagree with Kyrie deciding not to get vaccinated or if you think it is selfish at the end of the day its still his body and a reasonable decision.

there is no logic, reasoning, or anything that makes what adams is doing reasonable or defensible.

At this point to me, it is on Tsai. youre going to let the mayor spit in your face and single out your team? Thats weak bro.

[HardenGoat]

It’s based on the economy and getting people to take vaccinations. Don’t get me wrong Iam not advocating the way the rule is one bit. This isn’t based on pure science with what we have at this exact time , it’s about control and future control. What it allows is people to go into businesses and thus generate revenue. But it forces residents that work locally to get vaccinated. What the mayor is doing is trying to set up the precedent that people need to get vaccinated otherwise there is a price to pay. He is basically leaving a foot in the door here. Kyrie is being political. It is what he does, he has done it before. He will probably do it again. He is saying he is anti mandate (which was not a great message to start with in my book). But is acting like an anti vaxer. Another topic entirely. The problem here is Kyrie isn’t the only one paying that price.

[Prokorov]

It’s based on the economy and getting people to take vaccinations. Don’t get me wrong Iam not advocating the way the rule is one bit. This isn’t based on pure science with what we have, it’s about control and future control. What it allows is people to go into businesses and thus generate revenue. But it forces resident that work locally to get vaccinated. What the mayor is doing is trying to set up the precedent that people need to get vaccinated otherwise there is a price to pay. He is basically leaving a foot in the door here. Kyrie is being political. It is what he does, he has done it before. He will probably do it again. He is saying he is anti mandate (which was not a great message to start with in my book). But is acting like an anti vaxer. Another topic entirely. The problem here is Kyrie isn’t the only one paying that price.

Could not possibly be more wrong on all counts.

Mandate has no basis in science or economics. it is hurting the city economically. several businesses shut down because they couldn't survive the mandate. In a workforce that was already going through the great resignation, it cyphoned off employees. it didnt "allow the city to get back to work" it extended stoppages longer then it should have.

We reached an inflection point a while ago where you had anyone who was going to be coerced into a vaccine, vaccinated. after that point it is just punishing anyone left out of malice and power.

at one point, you could defend the mandate on science... it was still horrific in that it allowed for unfair conditions with visitors vs. residents. but there was some health reasons to back it up. right now it is indefensible.

[HardenGoat]

It’s based on the economy and getting people to take vaccinations. Don’t get me wrong Iam not advocating the way the rule is one bit. This isn’t based on pure science with what we have, it’s about control and future control. What it allows is people to go into businesses and thus generate revenue. But it forces resident that work locally to get vaccinated. What the mayor is doing is trying to set up the precedent that people need to get vaccinated otherwise there is a price to pay. He is basically leaving a foot in the door here. Kyrie is being political. It is what he does, he has done it before. He will probably do it again. He is saying he is anti mandate (which was not a great message to start with in my book). But is acting like an anti vaxer. Another topic entirely. The problem here is Kyrie isn’t the only one paying that price.

Could not possibly be more wrong on all counts.

Mandate has no basis in science or economics. it is hurting the city economically. several businesses shut down because they couldn't survive the mandate. In a workforce that was already going through the great resignation, it cyphoned off employees. it didnt "allow the city to get back to work" it extended stoppages longer then it should have.

We reached an inflection point a while ago where you had anyone who was going to be coerced into a vaccine, vaccinated. after that point it is just punishing anyone left out of malice and power.

at one point, you could defend the mandate on science... it was still horrific in that it allowed for unfair conditions with visitors vs. residents. but there was some health reasons to back it up. right now it is indefensible.

I agree with you though. Iam just trying to point out the politics part which includes the economy. Mandate was put out to get the highest amount of the population vaccinated in the shortest amount of time. What is going on now is not based on science and makes no sense. It’s about control. And Kyrie has stuck himself right in there. Not surprised.