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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1541 » by DrHeat » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:05 pm

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thx for posting this

Powerful and a must see to anyone who was a Beas fan or still is.

It makes you see him in a different light and better understand why things developed like they did with him here.



Interesting... He definitely had a tough life but so have many other athletes. Too bad he is not willing to take accountability for any of his actions.. When you have the amount of talent he had you are giving multiple opportunities.. It is not possible that everyone did him wrong at every stop
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Post#1542 » by HeatingUp3 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:28 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Dipo is going to have to make it through a full year before anyone around the league commits anything significant long term. My guess is another one year deal with a raise using his bird rights. He’ll assume Herro’s 6th man role and continue to build his value. Duncan most likely gets dealt with a 1st round pick or two for a young PF making much less. They’ll revisit Christian Wood and PJ Washington.


I think you're right we gonna try and deal Duncan for one of those. I just want to see more from Dipo before we can trust him in a 6th man roll.
We are so dynamic this year because we have Herro to master the 2nd unit. He is a lock for 6th man of the year.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1543 » by HeatingUp3 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:34 pm

DrHeat wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Beenie wrote:

thx for posting this

Powerful and a must see to anyone who was a Beas fan or still is.

It makes you see him in a different light and better understand why things developed like they did with him here.



Interesting... He definitely had a tough life but so have many other athletes. Too bad he is not willing to take accountability for any of his actions.. When you have the amount of talent he had you are giving multiple opportunities.. It is not possible that everyone did him wrong at every stop



Very interesting watch. I was so high on him on the Heat forums. I think as un organisation we gave him plenty of opportunities. He had a tough life but as you said he has to take responsibility on his actions.
Sad to see him like that. I still think he Could have been a star with the talent he had. Wish him all the best.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1544 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:56 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:
DrHeat wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:thx for posting this

Powerful and a must see to anyone who was a Beas fan or still is.

It makes you see him in a different light and better understand why things developed like they did with him here.



Interesting... He definitely had a tough life but so have many other athletes. Too bad he is not willing to take accountability for any of his actions.. When you have the amount of talent he had you are giving multiple opportunities.. It is not possible that everyone did him wrong at every stop



Very interesting watch. I was so high on him on the Heat forums. I think as un organisation we gave him plenty of opportunities. He had a tough life but as you said he has to take responsibility on his actions.
Sad to see him like that. I still think he Could have been a star with the talent he had. Wish him all the best.
Definitely could of been a star talent wise. But as you can see the family experience mixed with the drugs has him mentally fragmented. He still has the opportunity to make money overseas. I'm worried that channing and Ryan might be trying take on situation that may be more than they can handle. Beasley seems like he is really struggling with life as a whole.

I always remember meeting him in Walgreen or CVS down the street from the Arena during training camp. And saying man he is a young kid mentally by how he talked. Very jr high schoolish, not ready for the pros.

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Post#1545 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:26 am

carnageta wrote:The year was 2008. It was a warm sunny day in the Nevada dessert. The month of July hit like no other. The time was 9:45am. Michael Beasley still was not at the gym, despite his very first basketball workout with the Miami Heat training staff being scheduled for 8am that day. The very first summer league game of the off-season was right around the corner. WHERE WAS MICHAEL BEASLEY?

Spoelstra and the Heat coaching staff made their way to Beasley's hotel room, where they found him recovering from a recreational high. They proceeded to get him dressed and fed, and then escorted him to the training facility. Upon arrival - which was now over 120 minutes behind schedule - Michael began complaining about fatigue, and then insisted that he'll unlikely be able to finish the full range of physical activities that had been planned for him that day.

As the Heat coaching staff made their way into the gymnasium, they ran across the Oklahoma City Thunder training staff and had a quick glimpse of Russell Westbrook's highly intensive workout. Westbrook had been there since 7am and was still going full velocity. He was drenched in blood, sweat, and tears, and was still going at a pace never seen before.


That's when the Heat coaching staff realized they had fked up.


Its strange because they are both very flawed players ironically because of what's between the ears. Beasley under another team might have flourished, who knows. Westbrook here would have been interesting, and hopefully would have changed mentally with Wade as his mentor if they clicked.
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Post#1546 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:37 am

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marson wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Dipo is going to have to make it through a full year before anyone around the league commits anything significant long term. My guess is another one year deal with a raise using his bird rights. He’ll assume Herro’s 6th man role and continue to build his value. Duncan most likely gets dealt with a 1st round pick or two for a young PF making much less. They’ll revisit Christian Wood and PJ Washington.


Time for our boy Tyler to start next year. Our turd qtr slow starts are infuriating, he needs to start right away.


Sadly have to agree that Duncan is the weak link, guy just couldn't improve enough defensively or diversify his offense. Not looking like a Heat player or a starter on a contender.

Herro should start in his place, Dipo then can take over the bench mob and shoot for 6th man - if he has that in him.

Then we need to finally address the PF spot and finally add a real starter with size, shooting and energy. Seems to make sense to use Duncan's contract in a trade to get that player. Sadly it looks like we'll need to add a sweetener in order to pull off such a trade.

Maybe something around Duncan + Pick for C.Wood.

Lowry
Herro
Jimmy
Wood
Bam

Dipo 6th man. Bench of Vincent, Tucker, Strus, Martin, Yurt.

The year after that we might have to move Lowry in his final year due to salary and age.


The only issue here is Duncan in general. Hes not seen as a positive asset at all and he has years on his contract. The first round pick would be to get out of Duncan and lets be honest, we tend to play good so our picks don't have the same value as another team picks would so we would need to overpay if we are serious about making a trade.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1547 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:38 am

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carnageta wrote:The year was 2008. It was a warm sunny day in the Nevada dessert. The month of July hit like no other. The time was 9:45am. Michael Beasley still was not at the gym, despite his very first basketball workout with the Miami Heat training staff being scheduled for 8am that day. The very first summer league game of the off-season was right around the corner. WHERE WAS MICHAEL BEASLEY?

Spoelstra and the Heat coaching staff made their way to Beasley's hotel room, where they found him recovering from a recreational high. They proceeded to get him dressed and fed, and then escorted him to the training facility. Upon arrival - which was now over 120 minutes behind schedule - Michael began complaining about fatigue, and then insisted that he'll unlikely be able to finish the full range of physical activities that had been planned for him that day.

As the Heat coaching staff made their way into the gymnasium, they ran across the Oklahoma City Thunder training staff and had a quick glimpse of Russell Westbrook's highly intensive workout. Westbrook had been there since 7am and was still going full velocity. He was drenched in blood, sweat, and tears, and was still going at a pace never seen before.


That's when the Heat coaching staff realized they had fked up.


Its strange because they are both very flawed players ironically because of what's between the ears. Beasley under another team might have flourished, who knows. Westbrook here would have been interesting, and hopefully would have changed mentally with Wade as his mentor if they clicked.
Heat was gonna trade down with Memphis for Westbrook and Mike Miller. But Westbrook went early

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Post#1550 » by harlem_ball » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:03 am

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Spo didn't help him, he benched him. Then he benched Whiteside, now he's benching Yurt!

Spo doesn't play knuckleheads. He probably wouldn't play Kyrie lol
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Post#1551 » by Wiltside » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:23 am

Tyler Herro in March (8 games)

25.4ppg, 4.3rpg, 3.4apg, 1.0spg, 2.1tpg, 33.7mpg on 49.2%FG (9.0/18.3), 48.0% 3FG (3.4/7.1) and 96.6%FT (4.0/4.1)
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Post#1552 » by somerandomdude » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:41 am

Seriously. And I believe he's not taping up his ankle, either (Crotty mentioned that he'd get the ankle taped up in the locker room).

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Post#1553 » by Shewasfly » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:58 am

somerandomdude wrote:Seriously. And I believe he's not taping up his ankle, either (Crotty mentioned that he'd get the ankle taped up in the locker room).

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1554 » by somerandomdude » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:15 am

Stop blaming the shoes, stop blaming Spo. :cry:

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Post#1555 » by somerandomdude » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:21 am

Bam the next time Spo calls a Duncan DHO

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Post#1556 » by Wiltside » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:05 am

Max Strus is currently averaging more 3's per 36 mins than Duncan Robinson.

Strus in 23mpg = 2.6 / 6.5 (40.6%)
Duncan in 27mpg = 3.0 / 8.1 (36.9%)
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1557 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:02 am

DrHeat wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Beenie wrote:

thx for posting this

Powerful and a must see to anyone who was a Beas fan or still is.

It makes you see him in a different light and better understand why things developed like they did with him here.



Interesting... He definitely had a tough life but so have many other athletes. Too bad he is not willing to take accountability for any of his actions.. When you have the amount of talent he had you are giving multiple opportunities.. It is not possible that everyone did him wrong at every stop



I think he admits some of it is on him, but at the same time it's clear he needed a lot of help outside the court at the early stages of his career and I think there wasn't enough awareness back then about the psychological part of the player, and specifically just how messed up his background was.

To think about it - It's kinda amazing we even picked him considering his background - to no fault of his own. He's the Anti-Heat type player with all his off court issues. Maybe we we'rent as aware of his situation back then, I think nowadays a guy like him is going to considerably drop on draft night.
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Post#1558 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:24 pm

Wiltside wrote:Max Strus is currently averaging more 3's per 36 mins than Duncan Robinson.

Strus in 23mpg = 2.6 / 6.5 (40.6%)
Duncan in 27mpg = 3.0 / 8.1 (36.9%)


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Post#1559 » by Hallstar » Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:42 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Max Strus is currently averaging more 3's per 36 mins than Duncan Robinson.

Strus in 23mpg = 2.6 / 6.5 (40.6%)
Duncan in 27mpg = 3.0 / 8.1 (36.9%)


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