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Post#1941 » by DCasey91 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:44 pm

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Big J wrote:Even with a top 3 pick nothing is guaranteed outside of Jabari. This is why the OKC model of putting all your eggs in the draft basket can fail.



Well Okc sarted with SGA so they were already a step ahead of the 76ers Process™. However, you are correct, they need the same lottery luck any other team needs. Most of their picks are not premium picks either. So if they end up outside of the top 3 and their pick does not pop like Scottie Barnes, you begin to wonder how long will SGA stay on the train.


Problem is SGA isn’t Embiid. Embiid has never had a quality full squad wait until that happens (same with Jokic/Doncic fwiw).

I don’t see Jabari as that kind of talent but drafts are cyclical and picks are just that. You can minimize the boom/bust potential if you do the due diligence properly say Tatum for example but Drafts will never be an exact science.

Yeah the best methods sport wide has always been culture >>> investing/tanking/losing for “high” picks. Organisations culture is everything. For SGA it’s probably in his best interest to be a really good second option on a contender/upcoming team. It’s not his fault the route OKC is taking.
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Post#1942 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:15 pm

Mark Williams > Duren

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Post#1943 » by Norm2953 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:19 pm

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The-Power wrote:He'll get eaten alive by any competent Guard or Wing.


It'll be interesting to see how Timme fares at the combine. If he really is 6-10 235, he will make an NBA roster for
he can score and is strong enough to hold position. He's an old style PF type, a mid to late SRP for not everybody
has to be shooting from 25 feet.


hes not, he's like 6-8.

he's a 3rd unit bench big in the NBA in a BEST case scenario, europe much more likely route. he has no discernable skills outside of scoring in the post, can't shoot, can't defend the post or in space, not a passer, can't even rebound really, is undersized and positionless in the NBA in the worst way possible.

please stop this Timme nonsense before it starts.


Draft combine will likely determine if guys like Timme get drafted. Lots of guys who are listed as 6-10 end up
as 6-8 but he's had a good college career. Smart teams like the Spurs sometimes turn these types of players into
role players who contribute by doing just the 1-2 things they do well,
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Post#1944 » by clyde21 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:35 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how Timme fares at the combine. If he really is 6-10 235, he will make an NBA roster for
he can score and is strong enough to hold position. He's an old style PF type, a mid to late SRP for not everybody
has to be shooting from 25 feet.


hes not, he's like 6-8.

he's a 3rd unit bench big in the NBA in a BEST case scenario, europe much more likely route. he has no discernable skills outside of scoring in the post, can't shoot, can't defend the post or in space, not a passer, can't even rebound really, is undersized and positionless in the NBA in the worst way possible.

please stop this Timme nonsense before it starts.


Draft combine will likely determine if guys like Timme get drafted. Lots of guys who are listed as 6-10 end up
as 6-8 but he's had a good college career. Smart teams like the Spurs sometimes turn these types of players into
role players who contribute by doing just the 1-2 things they do well,


Spurs don't have magic potion here, they don't just magically turn non players into players...Timme's problem isn't schematic or development...he's just an absolutely terrible fit for the modern NBA, doesn't fit any role or archetype.

you're talking about a SF-sized center who can't defend, can't pass, and is a non-shooter...that is a recipe for a complete net negative player in the NBA.

good college player, might carve out career overseas, but that's it.
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Post#1945 » by clyde21 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 pm

Keels is not a very smart bball player
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Post#1946 » by CptCrunch » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:36 pm

I think Mark Williams can be drafted to progress in developing a jumper. 75% FT shooter this season. That is quite good for a center prospect.
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Post#1947 » by azcatz11 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:49 pm

If Wong has a big game tonight and Miami makes a run he's going to be a FRP. He's such a beast and plays bigger than he is and is an underrated shooter. I love watching this dude play
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Post#1948 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:10 am

clyde21 wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
hes not, he's like 6-8.

he's a 3rd unit bench big in the NBA in a BEST case scenario, europe much more likely route. he has no discernable skills outside of scoring in the post, can't shoot, can't defend the post or in space, not a passer, can't even rebound really, is undersized and positionless in the NBA in the worst way possible.

please stop this Timme nonsense before it starts.


Draft combine will likely determine if guys like Timme get drafted. Lots of guys who are listed as 6-10 end up
as 6-8 but he's had a good college career. Smart teams like the Spurs sometimes turn these types of players into
role players who contribute by doing just the 1-2 things they do well,


Spurs don't have magic potion here, they don't just magically turn non players into players...Timme's problem isn't schematic or development...he's just an absolutely terrible fit for the modern NBA, doesn't fit any role or archetype.

you're talking about a SF-sized center who can't defend, can't pass, and is a non-shooter...that is a recipe for a complete net negative player in the NBA.

good college player, might carve out career overseas, but that's it.


He just can't guard any position at the pro level, so he would never get on the floor.
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Post#1949 » by Big J » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:45 am

Jabari's shots not falling but he's finding other ways to affect the game. Kid's gritty as hell.
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Post#1950 » by CptCrunch » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:13 am

This tourney (and this game against Miami) basically reveals the central issue with Jabari Smith. His whole game is based on taking really **** shots like off screen 3's and mid range jumpers. To his credit, he makes them at a good clip. The fatal flaw of his is that lack of handles, which means he literally cannot take his man off the dribble even in college and will not, at least early on in his career, initiate offense in the NBA.

For him to work out as a #1 pick, he has to basically (1) drastically improve his handles, (2) stop shooting garbage shots (anything mid-range basically), (3) get drafted by a team with a competent point guard. This limits his early career role to a role player like Klay.

I am genuinely baffled how some here (and those in the media) sees him as a viable #1 pick. Chet despite his weaknesses has a clear case for the #1 pick, same for Paolo.
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Post#1951 » by clyde21 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:16 am

see you in the nba Bari, can't wait.
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Post#1952 » by Big J » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:27 am

Jabari's shot was off, but he was doing a ton of other stuff, 15 boards, 4 dimes, 3 assists to go with 10 points. I put more of the blame on his teammates tbh.
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Post#1953 » by Rainwater » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:20 am

CptCrunch wrote:This tourney (and this game against Miami) basically reveals the central issue with Jabari Smith. His whole game is based on taking really **** shots like off screen 3's and mid range jumpers. To his credit, he makes them at a good clip. The fatal flaw of his is that lack of handles, which means he literally cannot take his man off the dribble even in college and will not, at least early on in his career, initiate offense in the NBA.

For him to work out as a #1 pick, he has to basically (1) drastically improve his handles, (2) stop shooting garbage shots (anything mid-range basically), (3) get drafted by a team with a competent point guard. This limits his early career role to a role player like Klay.

I am genuinely baffled how some here (and those in the media) sees him as a viable #1 pick. Chet despite his weaknesses has a clear case for the #1 pick, same for Paolo.


I thought I was the only person seeing this. He is a great defender but his offensive game is severely lacking. While a great shooter, if his jumper is not falling he is pretty much useless on the offensive end. Who ever drafts him needs a good point guard to set him up. To me he is too much of a risk if you want him as a lead guy. He fits well with a guy like Cade but if drafted by a team like the Magic that would be a huge mistake.

Guys like Ivey, Chet, and Paolo should be ahead of him.
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Post#1954 » by clyde21 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:31 am

i'd take Terry lotto. if you look at him as strictly a PG instead a glue guy, it makes much more sense.
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Post#1955 » by 8305 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:15 am

Jaden Ivey with 3 or 4 wow plays along with two dagger 3’s at the end of the game. No damage to his draft tonight.
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Post#1956 » by MemphisX » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:28 am

clyde21 wrote:Keels is not a very smart bball player


I do not know what people see in him.
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Post#1957 » by NYPiston » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:33 am

Ben Mathurin. Time to start respecting this name. 30 tonight and great in the clutch.
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Post#1958 » by Kalela » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:40 am

Mike Miles Jr. (TCU) looks like the Van Vleet type. He may not get drafted if he declares but he will probably still make it to the NBA.
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Post#1959 » by CptCrunch » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:40 am

Benny Math took over however TCU got robbed

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That is not a foul in college btw. You can literally body the opposing guard.
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Post#1960 » by azcatz11 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:46 am

clyde21 wrote:i'd take Terry lotto. if you look at him as strictly a PG instead a glue guy, it makes much more sense.


I assume you're getting winslow vibes? I love them both actually but Terry has more of an edge (No offense Duke)

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