falcolombardi wrote:giannis
jokic
harden
kawhi
should probably make your list
Hard no on Kawhi
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falcolombardi wrote:giannis
jokic
harden
kawhi
should probably make your list
KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10
Jaivl wrote:KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10
You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.
Stalwart wrote:Jaivl wrote:KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10
You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG
falcolombardi wrote:Stalwart wrote:Jaivl wrote:You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
Stalwart wrote:falcolombardi wrote:Stalwart wrote:
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.
Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
Jaivl wrote:Stalwart wrote:falcolombardi wrote:
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.
Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
Let's just agree to heavily, heavily, HEAVILY disagree.
Stalwart wrote:falcolombardi wrote:Stalwart wrote:
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.
Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
Stalwart wrote:Jaivl wrote:Stalwart wrote:
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.
Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
Let's just agree to heavily, heavily, HEAVILY disagree.
Much easier to just disagree than make an argument. Whatever works for you.
70sFan wrote:Stalwart wrote:falcolombardi wrote:
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.
Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
I am Moses fan, but I don't think that's the case here. Most people would take KG over Moses full career, let alone with exclusion of 1975-79. Unlike what you said, they actually present thoughtful arguments as well.
I have Dirk and Moses on similar tier in terms of primes, but Dirk has massive longevity advantage that gets only bigger once you take away one fourth of Moses career.
Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.
Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.
70sFan wrote:Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.
What personal digs? I simply adressed to your previous post in this thread...Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.
So you ignore my opinion and my arguments because you disagree with them? Good luck then at having any credible discussion on any topic...
Stalwart wrote:70sFan wrote:Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.
What personal digs? I simply adressed to your previous post in this thread...Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.
So you ignore my opinion and my arguments because you disagree with them? Good luck then at having any credible discussion on any topic...
You never addressed my argument though. You hand waved it away along with the other poster. Post-80 Malone had comparable success to the other guys mentioned. How can that be denied let alone brushed off like an incredible opinion?