Who are the top 50 players of the 3 point era (79-80 to present)?

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Re: Who are the top 50 players of the 3 point era (79-80 to present)? 

Post#21 » by KobesScarf » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:07 pm

falcolombardi wrote:giannis
jokic
harden
kawhi

should probably make your list


Hard no on Kawhi
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Post#22 » by Jaivl » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:04 am

KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10

You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.
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Re: Who are the top 50 players of the 3 point era (79-80 to present)? 

Post#23 » by Stalwart » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:46 am

Jaivl wrote:
KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10

You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.


I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG
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Post#24 » by falcolombardi » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:13 am

Stalwart wrote:
Jaivl wrote:
KobesScarf wrote:Also Moses is top 10

You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.


I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG


hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already
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Post#25 » by Stalwart » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:10 am

falcolombardi wrote:
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Jaivl wrote:You'd have to take about 75% of Moses' career over some guys like Dirk, Bird, Garnett, Robinson... That's a hell of a take.


I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG


hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already


If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.
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Post#26 » by Jaivl » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:25 am

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falcolombardi wrote:
Stalwart wrote:
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG


hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already


If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.

Let's just agree to heavily, heavily, HEAVILY disagree.
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Post#27 » by Stalwart » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:27 am

Jaivl wrote:
Stalwart wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already


If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.

Let's just agree to heavily, heavily, HEAVILY disagree.


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Post#28 » by 70sFan » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:29 am

Stalwart wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
Stalwart wrote:
I'd say 75% of Moses career is comparable to guys like Dirk, Robinson, and KG


hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already


If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.

I am Moses fan, but I don't think that's the case here. Most people would take KG over Moses full career, let alone with exclusion of 1975-79. Unlike what you said, they actually present thoughtful arguments as well.

I have Dirk and Moses on similar tier in terms of primes, but Dirk has massive longevity advantage that gets only bigger once you take away one fourth of Moses career.
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Post#29 » by Jaivl » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:33 am

Stalwart wrote:
Jaivl wrote:
Stalwart wrote:
If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.

Let's just agree to heavily, heavily, HEAVILY disagree.


Much easier to just disagree than make an argument. Whatever works for you.

Much faster and about as useful, too.
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Post#30 » by Stalwart » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:36 am

70sFan wrote:
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falcolombardi wrote:
hard to see, i am not even sure moses peak was as good as those 3 and his prime is shorter than two of them already


If were talking 'career' as in career success then were talking about a 2x MVP, NBA Champion, 2x Conf. Champion, Finals MVP, 5x Rebounding leader, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA. He finished in top 5 mvp voting 5 times. He finished top 5 in scoring 5 times.

Obviously KG and Dirk would have the longevity argument but Moses, post 1980, would have still had a more dominant peak than any of those guys. 75% of Moses career stacks up to those guys just fine.

I am Moses fan, but I don't think that's the case here. Most people would take KG over Moses full career, let alone with exclusion of 1975-79. Unlike what you said, they actually present thoughtful arguments as well.


Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.

Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.

I have Dirk and Moses on similar tier in terms of primes, but Dirk has massive longevity advantage that gets only bigger once you take away one fourth of Moses career.


Yes, just like I noted.
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Post#31 » by 70sFan » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:47 am

Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.

What personal digs? I simply adressed to your previous post in this thread...

Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.

So you ignore my opinion and my arguments because you disagree with them? Good luck then at having any credible discussion on any topic...
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Post#32 » by Stalwart » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:42 am

70sFan wrote:
Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.

What personal digs? I simply adressed to your previous post in this thread...

Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.

So you ignore my opinion and my arguments because you disagree with them? Good luck then at having any credible discussion on any topic...


You never addressed my argument though. You hand waved it away along with the other poster. Post-80 Malone had comparable success to the other guys mentioned. How can that be denied let alone brushed off like an incredible opinion?
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Post#33 » by 70sFan » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:48 am

Stalwart wrote:
70sFan wrote:
Stalwart wrote:Not sure why you're taking personal digs like that.

What personal digs? I simply adressed to your previous post in this thread...

Anyway You are someone who has KG in the top 10 - 12 so your opinion is whatever.

So you ignore my opinion and my arguments because you disagree with them? Good luck then at having any credible discussion on any topic...


You never addressed my argument though. You hand waved it away along with the other poster. Post-80 Malone had comparable success to the other guys mentioned. How can that be denied let alone brushed off like an incredible opinion?

It's your definition of "success" though, not objective definition of that term.

You literally said that "it's easier to disagree than make argument" but we don't live in a vaccum here - you know very well arguments for KG over Moses. Just because we're not going to post the same thing again doesn't mean that we have no credible arguments to defend our opinions. You always ignore the other points of the view on certain matter, so why should I keep repeating the same thing every time you come in to the thread?

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