Welcome to Boston, Payton Pritchard!

[zoyathedestroya]

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Small sample obviously, but that assist-turnover ratio is a joke lol.

[Parliament10]

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Small sample obviously, but that assist-turnover ratio is a joke lol.

That's a Vast improvement on the Turnover Ratio. About 3:1.

[zoyathedestroya]

Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

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Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

He has the capability to put up more points, as we have seen, but getting Tatum the ball is his job. I get it, and so does Payton. He's a team guy, and a hard nosed player. Those traits go a long way with his teammates. A perfect example was last night against Detroit. His 4th quarter play was excellent and certainly contributed to our win.

[Curmudgeon]

It's Smart's job to get Tatum the ball. It's Pritchard's job to spread the floor and be ready to drain treys when Tatum is double teamed.
And to play hard-nosed defense.

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It's Smart's job to get Tatum the ball. It's Pritchard's job to spread the floor and be ready to drain treys when Tatum is double teamed.
And to play hard-nosed defense.

All true, however, when Marcus is not on the court... Last night Payton subbed in for Marcus in the 4th quarter and played solidly. Marcus did not get back in until there was under 5 minutes remaining. Payton wasn't so much looking to get off his shot as to keep the ball moving, and preferably to Tatum.

[zoyathedestroya]

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He's now shooting 40% from 3 since removing the mask, 2nd on the team among rotation players behind GOAT shooter Grant.

[playa-hater]

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He's now shooting 40% from 3 since removing the mask, 2nd on the team among rotation players behind GOAT shooter Grant.

I be willing to bet, it is even higher since Schro was traded an PP got "real" playing time.

[bisme37]

I'd love it if we could come up with a nickname for Payton that doesn't sound like a speedy rabbit taking a whiz.

Does anyone like "The Dagger?" I guess it's not phonetic or anything but daggers are small and, ya know, hit daggers.

[sam_I_am]

Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

I understand the disdain for Schroeder but we were 14-6 in 2022 before he was traded and 13-3 since the trade. Although we are #1 in off and def rating since trade, the team was really good in the 20 games this year before trade too. He and JRich were a big part of the turnaround even if we got even better after the trades. I wouldn’t mind at all if Spurs traded JRich back to us for trade exception this off season assuming nothing better comes along.

[zoyathedestroya]

Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

I understand the disdain for Schroeder but we were 14-6 in 2022 before he was traded and 13-3 since the trade. Although we are #1 in off and def rating since trade, the team was really good in the 20 games this year before trade too. He and JRich were a big part of the turnaround even if we got even better after the trades. I wouldn’t mind at all if Spurs traded JRich back to us for trade exception this off season assuming nothing better comes along.

The Celtics were winning in spite of Schroder most of the time once we became relatively healthy and he started coming off the bench. We were 15-6 since NYE until trade deadline. Schroder on the floor: 3.9 net rating. That shot up to 19.2 when he was on the bench. He was also dragging the other bench players along with him including Tatum, who spent minutes with the bench group. Opposite scenario now with PP where Cs are better with him on the floor than off.

Schroder was serviceable when he spot-started esp when we were missing our #2 scorer. Even won a couple of games for us in the clutch. But he was an awkward fit for what we're trying to accomplish. Glad we moved on so PP could get the opportunity he's making the most of now.

JRich I don't mind getting back.

[Curmudgeon]

Prichard is 5 away from Shake Milton's NBA record of 14 consecutive treys made.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Per36, post-trade-deadline: 17.4/4.5/5.2/1.2 on 49/46/100 splits, +11.0 per game. Filthy.

[jmr07019]

I'd love it if we could come up with a nickname for Payton that doesn't sound like a speedy rabbit taking a whiz.

Does anyone like "The Dagger?" I guess it's not phonetic or anything but daggers are small and, ya know, hit daggers.

I like it but nick names have to come organically

[24istheLAW]

Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

Updated per-36 numbers:

17.4 PPG, 4.5 TRB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, .490/.458/1.000, +5.1

[zoyathedestroya]

Sort of crazy that PP is 3rd in minutes and 2nd in 3-pointers made (40.7% clip) in the 4th quarter. We've had several blowouts so he's played late in those but it appears he's earned Ime's trust enough that he's being used in the 4th even in closer games.

[sam_I_am]

Off the bench, per36:

• Schroder, pre-trade deadline: 15.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg, 2.8 topg, 1.1 spg, 36.8/29.7/81.4 splits, +0.8, 16-8 w-l
• Pritchard, post-trade deadline: 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.1 topg, 1.1 spg, 41.7/37.5/na splits, +5.6, 9-2 w-l

More importantly, Pritchard doesn't take away the ball from Tatum and Smart. He also doesn't slow the offense down.

I understand the disdain for Schroeder but we were 14-6 in 2022 before he was traded and 13-3 since the trade. Although we are #1 in off and def rating since trade, the team was really good in the 20 games this year before trade too. He and JRich were a big part of the turnaround even if we got even better after the trades. I wouldn’t mind at all if Spurs traded JRich back to us for trade exception this off season assuming nothing better comes along.

The Celtics were winning in spite of Schroder most of the time once we became relatively healthy and he started coming off the bench. We were 15-6 since NYE until trade deadline. Schroder on the floor: 3.9 net rating. That shot up to 19.2 when he was on the bench. He was also dragging the other bench players along with him including Tatum, who spent minutes with the bench group. Opposite scenario now with PP where Cs are better with him on the floor than off.

Schroder was serviceable when he spot-started esp when we were missing our #2 scorer. Even won a couple of games for us in the clutch. But he was an awkward fit for what we're trying to accomplish. Glad we moved on so PP could get the opportunity he's making the most of now.

JRich I don't mind getting back.

I agree with everything you said but I completely disagree with the notion we sucked BECAUSE of Schroeder and are good because we got rid of him. We got remarkably better before the trade because Tatum-Brown-Smart-Horford-RW got healthy and finally figured it out. The White/Schroeder/JRich/PP reshuffling fits better with what the starting 5 got going and allows Ime to make substitutions seamlessly and was a nice tweak to roster by Brad.

[zoyathedestroya]

I understand the disdain for Schroeder but we were 14-6 in 2022 before he was traded and 13-3 since the trade. Although we are #1 in off and def rating since trade, the team was really good in the 20 games this year before trade too. He and JRich were a big part of the turnaround even if we got even better after the trades. I wouldn’t mind at all if Spurs traded JRich back to us for trade exception this off season assuming nothing better comes along.

The Celtics were winning in spite of Schroder most of the time once we became relatively healthy and he started coming off the bench. We were 15-6 since NYE until trade deadline. Schroder on the floor: 3.9 net rating. That shot up to 19.2 when he was on the bench. He was also dragging the other bench players along with him including Tatum, who spent minutes with the bench group. Opposite scenario now with PP where Cs are better with him on the floor than off.

Schroder was serviceable when he spot-started esp when we were missing our #2 scorer. Even won a couple of games for us in the clutch. But he was an awkward fit for what we're trying to accomplish. Glad we moved on so PP could get the opportunity he's making the most of now.

JRich I don't mind getting back.

I agree with everything you said but I completely disagree with the notion we sucked BECAUSE of Schroeder and are good because we got rid of him. We got remarkably better before the trade because Tatum-Brown-Smart-Horford-RW got healthy and finally figured it out. The White/Schroeder/JRich/PP reshuffling fits better with what the starting 5 got going and allows Ime to make substitutions seamlessly and was a nice tweak to roster by Brad.

Never said we sucked because of Schroder. I'm saying the team is even better without him because the bench pieces we have now fit better with what we're trying to do. Decent floor, low ceiling with Schroder.

[ddb]

Hard not to like Pritchard. Since the day he arrived he just seems like the type of guy that understands who he is in this league. Hard not to peg him as a 12-14 year pro as a solid backup guard that can knock down shots and provide secondary ball handling. My favorite part about PP is his fearlessness. He's a gamer and WILL continue to knock down big shots. He's limited in other areas of his game, but his effort & hoops IQ help balance that out.
Nice player that's really come on as of late.

[sam_I_am]

The Celtics were winning in spite of Schroder most of the time once we became relatively healthy and he started coming off the bench. We were 15-6 since NYE until trade deadline. Schroder on the floor: 3.9 net rating. That shot up to 19.2 when he was on the bench. He was also dragging the other bench players along with him including Tatum, who spent minutes with the bench group. Opposite scenario now with PP where Cs are better with him on the floor than off.

Schroder was serviceable when he spot-started esp when we were missing our #2 scorer. Even won a couple of games for us in the clutch. But he was an awkward fit for what we're trying to accomplish. Glad we moved on so PP could get the opportunity he's making the most of now.

JRich I don't mind getting back.

I agree with everything you said but I completely disagree with the notion we sucked BECAUSE of Schroeder and are good because we got rid of him. We got remarkably better before the trade because Tatum-Brown-Smart-Horford-RW got healthy and finally figured it out. The White/Schroeder/JRich/PP reshuffling fits better with what the starting 5 got going and allows Ime to make substitutions seamlessly and was a nice tweak to roster by Brad.

Never said we sucked because of Schroder. I'm saying the team is even better without him because the bench pieces we have now fit better with what we're trying to do. Decent floor, low ceiling with Schroder.

I wasn’t calling you out at all, just chose to bring up that point while replying to your post. I’m glad we moved on from DS and even happier we got Theis back. At the time we signed him it seemed like a good low cost move to make team a little more competitive in what seemed like a bridge year.