2022 NFL Draft discussion

BallinBucks420 · Post #301 » by **BallinBucks420** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:18 am

i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

wallus · Post #302 » by **wallus** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:10 am

BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

We already have 11 picks. I would be surprised if we drafted that many guys.

Profound23 · Post #303 » by **Profound23** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:38 am

BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

I only like the idea of trading down with one of our firsts if it leads to a 2023 first

BallinBucks420 · Post #304 » by **BallinBucks420** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:51 am

Profound23 wrote:
BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

I only like the idea of trading down with one of our firsts if it leads to a 2023 first

I realize we have 11 picks, but 3 of those are 7th rounders...i think the draft is deep at WR..Use one of the 1st on BPA between WR, Dline, Oline, and if that other 1st nets you an early to mid 2nd and a 2023 1st or you get multiple picks in round 1-4 thats what id like to see....then use some of those later picks and move up and you can maybe come out of this draft with 2-3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Dline, 1 Oline, 1 Edge rusher and a DB in the first 4-5 rounds would be pretty exciting...i think the value in this draft is in that 2nd and 3rd round but what do i know

LatentFrog · Post #305 » by **LatentFrog** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:42 pm

Lot of intriguing WRs in this draft and I'd love to see us use a 1st and a 2nd on the position. I've liked Watson for a while but Metchie is super interesting as a 2nd round pick. Great separation at the LOS and downfield. He definitely strikes me as a guy who Rodgers will quickly learn to love.

M-C-G · Post #306 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:46 pm

LatentFrog wrote:Lot of intriguing WRs in this draft and I'd love to see us use a 1st and a 2nd on the position. I've liked Watson for a while but Metchie is super interesting as a 2nd round pick. Great separation at the LOS and downfield. He definitely strikes me as a guy who Rodgers will quickly learn to love.

You are the first person I have seen that called for Metchie. I know nothing about him but he seems like just a 'meh' guy based on how people talk about him.

But who knows, sometimes guys just get slept on because they are normal human size and don't run a 4.3

M-C-G · Post #307 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:22 pm

I am EXTREMELY interested in Jelani Woods from Virginia. Former QB (I believe)

Height: 6'7″
Weight: 252
40 time 4.61
Vertical: 37.5 inches
Broad: 10'9″
Shuttle: 4.22
Three-cone: 6.91

Those numbers are bananas.

Watch on YouTube

M-C-G · Post #308 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:29 pm

Did you guys already talk about Leo Chenal athletic testing? My goodness

Shuttle: 3.94 (99th percentile)
Three-cone: 6.84 (90th)
Bench: 34 reps (99th)
40 yard 4.53
Vertical 40.5
Broadjump 128

All that at 6'3 250?

Matches Malone · Post #309 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:26 pm

M-C-G wrote:I am EXTREMELY interested in Jelani Woods from Virginia. Former QB (I believe)

Height: 6'7″
Weight: 252
40 time 4.61
Vertical: 37.5 inches
Broad: 10'9″
Shuttle: 4.22
Three-cone: 6.91

Those numbers are bananas.

Watch on YouTube

Been taking him in a lot of my mocks the past month. He'd be a great pickup here.

Swan Vox · Post #310 » by **Swan Vox** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:05 pm

M-C-G wrote:I am EXTREMELY interested in Jelani Woods from Virginia. Former QB (I believe)

Height: 6'7″
Weight: 252
40 time 4.61
Vertical: 37.5 inches
Broad: 10'9″
Shuttle: 4.22
Three-cone: 6.91

Those numbers are bananas.

Watch on YouTube

It sounds like the Packers brass was pretty “chummy” with Woods either at the combine or at his pro day.

He’d be a great successor to Lewis.

Read on Twitter

Treebeard · Post #311 » by **Treebeard** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:09 pm

Swan Vox wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I am EXTREMELY interested in Jelani Woods from Virginia. Former QB (I believe)

Height: 6'7″
Weight: 252
40 time 4.61
Vertical: 37.5 inches
Broad: 10'9″
Shuttle: 4.22
Three-cone: 6.91

Those numbers are bananas.

(snip)

It sounds like the Packers brass was pretty chummy with Woods either at the combine or at his pro day.

He’d be a great successor to Lewis.

"Big Wood....." replacing Big Dog? Or, Woodie?

I'll show myself out now....

Post #312 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:08 pm

M-C-G wrote:Did you guys already talk about Leo Chenal athletic testing? My goodness

Shuttle: 3.94 (99th percentile)
Three-cone: 6.84 (90th)
Bench: 34 reps (99th)
40 yard 4.53
Vertical 40.5
Broadjump 128

All that at 6'3 250?

I honestly don't know why he can't be the first off-ball linebacker taken.

MVP2110 · Post #313 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:31 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Did you guys already talk about Leo Chenal athletic testing? My goodness

Shuttle: 3.94 (99th percentile)
Three-cone: 6.84 (90th)
Bench: 34 reps (99th)
40 yard 4.53
Vertical 40.5
Broadjump 128

All that at 6'3 250?

I honestly don't know why he can't be the first off-ball linebacker taken.

It's not a position the Packers need but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they grabbed him. Insane RAS testing, only 21. He fits the Packer mold

DrWood · Post #314 » by **DrWood** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:46 pm

wallus wrote:
BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

We already have 11 picks. I would be surprised if we drafted that many guys.

Doesn't have to be a 1 for two swap. Can add later picks.
For example could trade #22, #92, #132, and #171
with SEA for #40 and #41.

Treebeard · Post #315 » by **Treebeard** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:48 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Did you guys already talk about Leo Chenal athletic testing? My goodness

Shuttle: 3.94 (99th percentile)
Three-cone: 6.84 (90th)
Bench: 34 reps (99th)
40 yard 4.53
Vertical 40.5
Broadjump 128

All that at 6'3 250?

I honestly don't know why he can't be the first off-ball linebacker taken.

It's not a position the Packers need but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they grabbed him. Insane RAS testing, only 21. He fits the Packer mold

Special teams for a starter.

DrWood · Post #316 » by **DrWood** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:50 pm

Treebeard wrote:
Swan Vox wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I am EXTREMELY interested in Jelani Woods from Virginia. Former QB (I believe)

Height: 6'7″
Weight: 252
40 time 4.61
Vertical: 37.5 inches
Broad: 10'9″
Shuttle: 4.22
Three-cone: 6.91

Those numbers are bananas.

(snip)

It sounds like the Packers brass was pretty chummy with Woods either at the combine or at his pro day.

He’d be a great successor to Lewis.

"Big Wood....." replacing Big Dog? Or, Woodie?

I'll show myself out now....

Woods has as much upside as any TE in the draft. But his floor is not high.
He doesn't block well.
He doesn't have good hands.
He doesn't run good routes.
Those are teachable things, but they suggest he might not be a good choice if you want him to contribute soon.

DrWood · Post #317 » by **DrWood** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:31 pm

I ran the simulator again, and ALL of the players I wanted to pick in the first round were taken before they dropped to me. So I traded down repeatedly (the trades were initiated by the other team). I got this. I like the list of players, though I ended up taking 3 CBs, which is a bit many.

47.
Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State

53.
Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi

61.
Sean Rhyan
OG UCLA

79.
Logan Hall
DT Houston

80.
Leo Chenal
LB Wisconsin

83.
Romeo Doubs
WR Nevada

87.
Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis

93.
Martin Emerson
CB Mississippi State

102.
Chris Hinton
DT Michigan

105.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama

113.
Jake Ferguson
TE Wisconsin

123.
Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State

124.
Braxton Jones
OT Southern Utah

125.
Nick Cross
S Maryland

132.
Erik Ezukanma
WR Texas Tech

140.
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State

trwi7 · Post #318 » by **trwi7** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:41 am

DrWood wrote:
wallus wrote:
BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

We already have 11 picks. I would be surprised if we drafted that many guys.

Doesn't have to be a 1 for two swap. Can add later picks.
For example could trade #22, #92, #132, and #171
with SEA for #40 and #41.

This seems like a not very good deal.

DrWood · Post #319 » by **DrWood** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:40 am

Profound23 wrote:
BallinBucks420 wrote:i kinda like the idea of trading down with one of our 2 1st and having a bunch of picks in this draft

I only like the idea of trading down with one of our firsts if it leads to a 2023 first

A terrible idea, possibly encouraged by a bad model for trades in the simulator?
The only way that would work out is if the other team badly overestimated how good they were going to be next year. If they value their next-year's FRP as the 16th, say, and they are so terrible they'd never pick later than 6th. But most teams aren't that stupid, and even if they are, regression to the mean would move them closer to the middle of the pack.
It's like suggesting we trade Aaron for Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelce; the Chiefs would never do that.

DrWood · Post #320 » by **DrWood** » Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:52 am

trwi7 wrote:
DrWood wrote:
wallus wrote:
We already have 11 picks. I would be surprised if we drafted that many guys.

Doesn't have to be a 1 for two swap. Can add later picks.
For example could trade #22, #92, #132, and #171
with SEA for #40 and #41.

This seems like a not very good deal.

It's only an example, but it actually is in the pack's favor. If you don't like that one, here's another option:
#22 and #132 to Detroit for #34 and #66