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Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm

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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#401 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:17 pm

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Thats the role of his position. :lol:
In the scheme his role is to shoot threes. That is why I keep telling you all are wasting time talking about Strus can do other things when that role gives very little oppurtunities to do other thangs on offense besides shooting 3s. :lol:

There are other ways to get 3pters besides DHOs.

C'mon man, stop baiting me these emoji-filled low-efforts posts. You're better than that.


Yes there are other ways in general to got open threes. But you have to look at the personal of this team. You want this team to be a drive and kick team. That is not this teams make up. Jimmy, Bam and Lowry are not pick n roll or drive and kick players. Herro may be the only player who is more fitted as a pick n roll drive and kick player on this team. This is not a team made up of Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson who thrived at drive and kicking out. Lowry, Bam and Butler are the distributors of this team. Lowry has never been a drive and kick dominate passer. He has always been a halfcourt post passing point guard. Lowry has never been a pressure pressure the rim off the dribble from the top of the key player. He has been a director of offense of cuts and post players.

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Just a reminder you guys where I stand. At the start of the season I told you I wanted Less reliance on Duncan shooting threes. I wanted Bam to take fg attempts from Duncan. I wanted Bam, Herro and Butler to be more scorers than passer this year. I got it from Herro (taken Dragic and Olynyk attempts), Butler did so early then lately reverted back to overpassing, and Bam you know the issues with Bam overpassing.

My goals for this team was Bam, Herro to average 15 shots or more a game. And those shots would be taken from the position Strus and Duncan plays. In order for this team to win a chip all three must be taking a higher portion of the teams shots.

Heat got ran out of the playoffs last year because the bucks decided to lock down on Duncan and dare Bam to beat them. The key to beating the Heat should not be to lock down Duncan. What do you think will happen in the playoffs if the opponnent decides to use the same strategy and lock down Strus and dare Bam to shoot? When Bucks put Middleton on Strus and Holiday on Butler? You think Strus is gonna bring out the ball handling bag on Middleton or Thybulle? :lol: (sorry for the emoji I had to laugh at the thought of it)
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#402 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:55 pm

Why are we so worked up about taking a scrub out of the starting lineup and winning in a blowout
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#403 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:56 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Why are we so worked up about taking a scrub out of the starting lineup and winning in a blowout


Why are you so excited and focused on putting a scrub in the lineup and overpraising him with some mythological skill set? Yall really did a breakdown of Strus 3 for 20 shooting and praised it as great performance. That is wierd :lol:

I do not think Strus is a scrub and neither is Duncan but its the hyperbole in characterizing players on here.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#404 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:04 pm

I do love you guys, the obsessions yall get for a player (Winslow) and hatred you get for another (Nunn) is fascinating. I mostly try to ingore it but sometimes man its fasinating why it happens. Sometimes its trippy and yall will praise the smallest things.

Nunn would dam near have 40 points and carrying the offense and many will be like Nunn had a good game, trade him.
Winslow would have 12 points (19% fg shooting) 5 rbs and 5 assist and yall say ALL-STAR, future of the franchise is bright.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#405 » by KingDavid » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:14 pm

somerandomdude wrote:Here's some highlights from tonight's game showcasing Strus' versatility. It's not much, but it shows things that Duncan has never shown.

Also, I freeze framed a play that frustrated me. I wish our coaches would tell our guards to stop being so selfish and look for our bigs, but I get the feeling that they're also part of the problem.


Yurt would have been called for 3 in the key there, but yeah that's an easy pass with perfect positioning under the basket.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#406 » by KingDavid » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:33 pm

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somerandomdude wrote:There are other ways to get 3pters besides DHOs.

C'mon man, stop baiting me these emoji-filled low-efforts posts. You're better than that.


Yes there are other ways in general to got open threes. But you have to look at the personal of this team. You want this team to be a drive and kick team. That is not this teams make up. Jimmy, Bam and Lowry are not pick n roll or drive and kick players. Herro may be the only player who is more fitted as a pick n roll drive and kick player on this team. This is not a team made up of Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson who thrived at drive and kicking out. Lowry, Bam and Butler are the distributors of this team. Lowry has never been a drive and kick dominate passer. He has always been a halfcourt post passing point guard. Lowry has never been a pressure pressure the rim off the dribble from the top of the key player. He has been a director of offense of cuts and post players.

Sorry if emoji's are a trigger for you



Just a reminder you guys where I stand. At the start of the season I told you I wanted Less reliance on Duncan shooting threes. I wanted Bam to take fg attempts from Duncan. I wanted Bam, Herro and Butler to be more scorers than passer this year. I got it from Herro (taken Dragic and Olynyk attempts), Butler did so early then lately reverted back to overpassing, and Bam you know the issues with Bam overpassing.

My goals for this team was Bam, Herro to average 15 shots or more a game. And those shots would be taken from the position Strus and Duncan plays. In order for this team to win a chip all three must be taking a higher portion of the teams shots.

Heat got ran out of the playoffs last year because the bucks decided to lock down on Duncan and dare Bam to beat them. The key to beating the Heat should not be to lock down Duncan. What do you think will happen in the playoffs if the opponnent decides to use the same strategy and lock down Strus and dare Bam to shoot? When Bucks put Middleton on Strus and Holiday on Butler? You think Strus is gonna bring out the ball handling bag on Middleton or Thybulle? :lol: (sorry for the emoji I had to laugh at the thought of it)

The clips of Duncan you posted are cool, but I think we'll see more versatility from Strus' role. He might mix more drives in off DHOs.

Doesn't solve the problem with size and rebounding. Too many times last night I've seen our guards trying to box out bigs on a switch. It's not a working formula against good teams that we have to face up to 7 times in a series.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#407 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:46 pm

KingDavid wrote:Doesn't solve the problem with size and rebounding. Too many times last night I've seen our guards trying to box out bigs on a switch. It's not a working formula against good teams that we have to face up to 7 times in a series.


From watching spo for years, he does not value rebounds highly as past nba coaches. This is the man who had Joel Anthony put into the starting lineup as a big producing 2 rebounds a game.

This defense is more dependent on causing turnovers and chasing down lose balls more so than rebounds. Spo uses the powerforward position to press the point guard and the switching in hopes to catch the proponent throwing an errant pass. This is an attack defense. The weakness with press and attack/gambling defenses, they are in bad rebound position.

Rebounding is gonna be this team weakness. The question is can they cause turnovers without turning the ball back over.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#408 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:I do love you guys, the obsessions yall get for a player (Winslow) and hatred you get for another (Nunn) is fascinating. I mostly try to ingore it but sometimes man its fasinating why it happens. Sometimes its trippy and yall will praise the smallest things.

Nunn would dam near have 40 points and carrying the offense and many will be like Nunn had a good game, trade him.
Winslow would have 12 points (19% fg shooting) 5 rbs and 5 assist and yall say ALL-STAR, future of the franchise is bright.



I miss Nunn lol
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#409 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:01 pm

Don’t get it twisted, Duncan and Strus can both go for a shooter that can actually defend
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#410 » by somerandomdude » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:26 pm

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somerandomdude wrote:Here's some highlights from tonight's game showcasing Strus' versatility. It's not much, but it shows things that Duncan has never shown.

Also, I freeze framed a play that frustrated me. I wish our coaches would tell our guards to stop being so selfish and look for our bigs, but I get the feeling that they're also part of the problem.


Yurt would have been called for 3 in the key there, but yeah that's an easy pass with perfect positioning under the basket.

Yeah you're right, but the refs will usually let you have it if you get the shot off quick enough and don't take a dribble or two.

And yeah, that was awesome positioning. I love watching bigs fight for positioning and operate in the post.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#411 » by dolphinatik » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:54 pm

Nice game. Stus and Game sped it up. Herro was dropping dime after dime and opponents commentators couldnt stop talking about him. Glad Jimmy hit a couple 3s he really should shake that dust off before the playoffs start. What I didnt like is Dedmon having a few boneheaded plays pushing and making unnecessary contact (same for Duncan, Thowing your face at someone is not defense), Spo should have had a conversation with him. I would have loved to see Morris with Demon or Morris with Yurt or Bam. Offense flowed and Herro passed quickly instead of hogging the offense. Still the rotations and substitutions could have come quicker.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#412 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:38 pm

Shewasfly wrote:I for one am just happy for us to get off the slide and get the monkey off our back, even though its against a **** team. The more I think about it, the more we never really had a very bad slide the way most other teams did. Ours just happened to happen/be happening at the worst time.

That's what I'm telling myself anyway.

It is still concerning to me that Spo and Jimmy barely seemed to acknowledge each other, especially at the end there when Spo emptied the bench. But I guess we'll have to wait and see what the implications of all this will be.
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#413 » by Miami_Lux » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:47 am

twix2500 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Why are we so worked up about taking a scrub out of the starting lineup and winning in a blowout


Why are you so excited and focused on putting a scrub in the lineup and overpraising him with some mythological skill set? Yall really did a breakdown of Strus 3 for 20 shooting and praised it as great performance. That is wierd :lol:

I do not think Strus is a scrub and neither is Duncan but its the hyperbole in characterizing players on here.


Oh the irony pointing out that other posters are using hyperbole in characterizing players and then go on yourself to say struss shot 3 of 20 from the field
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Re: Game 76 / Heat vs Kings - The beginning of the end? // 3/28 / 7:30pm 

Post#414 » by harlem_ball » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:18 am

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Shewasfly wrote:I for one am just happy for us to get off the slide and get the monkey off our back, even though its against a **** team. The more I think about it, the more we never really had a very bad slide the way most other teams did. Ours just happened to happen/be happening at the worst time.

That's what I'm telling myself anyway.

It is still concerning to me that Spo and Jimmy barely seemed to acknowledge each other, especially at the end there when Spo emptied the bench. But I guess we'll have to wait and see what the implications of all this will be.
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Here comes Westbrick. I'd be mad at Spo too for wasting my prime with these **** lineups. Can't hate Jimbo for being frustrated.

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