Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4

Kobewade11 · Post #181 » by **Kobewade11** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:17 pm

balla345 wrote:Feels like we have more upside with Dipo playing but with Gabe you already know what your getting with him.

Why does it have to be one or the other? Both may be more useful than Duncan, especially if Strus continues to play well.

dolphinatik · Post #182 » by **dolphinatik** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:39 pm

last night showed me Spo has a plan to rest players before the playoffs so we wont know anything until playoffs start. He is clearly managing Caleb, Dipo, Dedmon and Jimmy before the playoffs and wouldnt be surprised if Herro and Strus got some rest. i expect him to keep swapping rosters up until playoffs.

al bondiga · Post #183 » by **al bondiga** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:51 pm

This team is really confusing, one day I'm absolutely sure it's one and out then I think ecf for sure... it depends too much on young players but at the same time it has so many players that any given night can perform... this team is truly a Gamble

somerandomdude · Post #184 » by **somerandomdude** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:10 pm

greg4012 wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:
greg4012 wrote:

Duncan played in 15 total games his rookie season

Apologies for that.

Still, 15 games, which is nothing. He started all but 5 games the next season and logged nearly 30mpg.

The way I see it is, Duncan adheres to Spo's views on how basketball games are won, while Yurtz doesn't.

The way I see it, Duncan had time to develop in the Heat organization for a year as a rookie before being thrust into real action. Yurt is doing the same, but has the benefit of more playing time as a rookie

Perhaps. It's definitely a possibility.

Then again, he didn't do anything to warrant being benched.

And I don't think it's about winning because we lost to a healthy Suns by 21 after beating them by 23 while dealing with injuries. With the Warriors, similar situation, except we lost by double while being healthy and they had injuries to their 3 best players and playing their worst basketball of the season. In the losing streak, we were getting dominated on the glass and were playing Markieff Morris, who averaged 1rpg in 3 losses.

Oh well.

greg4012 · Post #185 » by **greg4012** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:31 pm

somerandomdude wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:Apologies for that.

Still, 15 games, which is nothing. He started all but 5 games the next season and logged nearly 30mpg.

The way I see it is, Duncan adheres to Spo's views on how basketball games are won, while Yurtz doesn't.

The way I see it, Duncan had time to develop in the Heat organization for a year as a rookie before being thrust into real action. Yurt is doing the same, but has the benefit of more playing time as a rookie

Perhaps. It's definitely a possibility.

Then again, he didn't do anything to warrant being benched.

And I don't think it's about winning because we lost to a healthy Suns by 21 after beating them by 23 while dealing with injuries. With the Warriors, similar situation, except we lost by double while being healthy and they had injuries to their 3 best players and playing their worst basketball of the season. In the losing streak, we were getting dominated on the glass and were playing Markieff Morris, who averaged 1rpg in 3 losses.

Oh well.

Oh well. I'm excited to see Yurt continue to progress as his role increases next season.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #186 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 9:15 pm

No 2 games are the same, you can’t look at it from that perspective.

SerialChiller · Post #187 » by **SerialChiller** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 10:06 pm

Watch on YouTube

Anyone else see this? Dipo goes into detail about his injury and rehab, it's a good listen.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #188 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 11:40 pm

Read on Twitter

I disagree, that would be a very tough hard fought first round series that I’d like to avoid. Name the last time a 1st seed in the East didn’t have a cake walk the first round? Now we’re going to end up playing some stacked ass team now that we were able to snag it this season

SerialChiller · Post #189 » by **SerialChiller** » Mon Apr 4, 2022 11:47 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

I disagree, that would be a very tough hard fought first round series that I’d like to avoid. Name the last time a 1st seed in the East didn’t have a cake walk the first round? Now we’re going to end up playing some stacked ass team now that we were able to snag it this season

Ya I can't say I'm as confident as Nick is that we'd win that series easily if we'd win it at all. The last time we played them, even if it was during our bad stretch really makes it hard to be that confident.

Kobewade11 · Post #190 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:09 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

I disagree, that would be a very tough hard fought first round series that I’d like to avoid. Name the last time a 1st seed in the East didn’t have a cake walk the first round? Now we’re going to end up playing some stacked ass team now that we were able to snag it this season

Media heads with hidden agendas. Nick doesn’t really believe this, it just suits his agenda. He’s an ardent LeBron fan boy, he’s trying to amp us up as a proxy against KD because of how he demolished his boy in the Finals back to back.

AirP. · Post #191 » by **AirP.** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:10 am

Listening to the Lowe Post today... they talk about Robinson and Herro being some of the worst isolation defenders in the league and then Zach breaks out the stat that Robinson is giving up 1.198 points per possession which is basically 120 points per 100 possessions which a team would be easily #1 in the NBA per 100 possessions. To put that in perspective, the NBA average currently is 1.13. Basically, it's like someone hitting 40% of their 3s when isolating on Robinson (not just being open).

SerialChiller · Post #192 » by **SerialChiller** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:52 am

AirP. wrote:Listening to the Lowe Post today... they talk about Robinson and Herro being some of the worst isolation defenders in the league and then Zach breaks out the stat that Robinson is giving up 1.198 points per possession which is basically 120 points per 100 possessions which a team would be easily #1 in the NBA per 100 possessions. To put that in perspective, the NBA average currently is 1.13. Basically, it's like someone hitting 40% of their 3s when isolating on Robinson (not just being open).

Ya the eye test back that up especially with Robinson. Herro at least is a big offensive contributor, Robinson is hardly giving us anything. I think he needs to be pulled from the rotation honestly. He's going to be targeted heavily in the playoffs.

oreon · Post #193 » by **oreon** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 2:38 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

I disagree, that would be a very tough hard fought first round series that I’d like to avoid. Name the last time a 1st seed in the East didn’t have a cake walk the first round? Now we’re going to end up playing some stacked ass team now that we were able to snag it this season

We play the Nets in round 1 we are probably going home early. Closing games is still a big weakness and we'd be going against two of the best closers. Basically any close game I would favor Nets to win

oreon · Post #194 » by **oreon** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 2:41 am

al bondiga wrote:This team is really confusing, one day I'm absolutely sure it's one and out then I think ecf for sure... it depends too much on young players but at the same time it has so many players that any given night can perform... this team is truly a Gamble

Even during the 4 game loosing streak my opinion didn't change much. For the Heat its all about the path. If they can avoid Nets & Bucks in 1st two rounds I think they can make ECF. Once you get there you never know. If we play either of those teams early I think we loose.
Against Sixers I'm a lot more hoepfully. Sixers have two of the biggest recent playoff chokers in Doc and Harden. I think any amount pressure and that team will fold.

eddieheatfan · Post #195 » by **eddieheatfan** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 2:54 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

I disagree, that would be a very tough hard fought first round series that I’d like to avoid. Name the last time a 1st seed in the East didn’t have a cake walk the first round? Now we’re going to end up playing some stacked ass team now that we were able to snag it this season

yeah i'm with the same opinion. let others deal with the nets because we just dont mash up with them very well

the cucks or the bulls are a preferred path of mine

greg4012 · Post #196 » by **greg4012** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 12:29 pm

I find it fascinating that so many of our fans fear the other gear that all our opponents have for the playoffs but don’t have faith that Miami has another gear too.

Last seasons playoffs really broke our fans

Kobewade11 · Post #197 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:32 pm

greg4012 wrote:I find it fascinating that so many of our fans fear the other gear that all our opponents have for the playoffs but don’t have faith that Miami has another gear too.

Last seasons playoffs really broke our fans

Context matters and you kind of said it yourself with that last line. We got swept in last years playoffs. Recently we lost to the Sixers sans their mvp candidate and harden, GS without Curry, blown out by Brooklyn. Granted we put together a better week last week but where do you honestly think fans are supposed to find this faith in another gear? Especially considering the top teams have multiple guys that can go for 30 any night while our best have to struggle to get 20.

And fwiw Im not afraid to play anybody

greg4012 · Post #198 » by **greg4012** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:35 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
greg4012 wrote:I find it fascinating that so many of our fans fear the other gear that all our opponents have for the playoffs but don’t have faith that Miami has another gear too.

Last seasons playoffs really broke our fans

Context matters and you kind of said it yourself with that last line. We got swept in last years playoffs. Recently we lost to the Sixers sans their mvp candidate and harden, GS without Curry, blown out by Brooklyn. Granted we put together a better week last week but where do you honestly think fans are supposed to find this faith in another gear? Especially considering the top teams have multiple guys that can go for 30 any night while our best have to struggle to get 20.

And fwiw Im not afraid to play anybody

Context matters as to why last season's playoffs happened.

Divining anything from games where we played against team's benches and got blown out while on a clear slide and not matching effort is a waste of time IMO.

I'm just seeing way too much weight placed on things like the recent skid when it should not at all translate to playoff bball

Tony15 · Post #199 » by **Tony15** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:53 pm

LOL our roster last season was substantially worse, so any reference to last year is rubbish in all honestly....not to mention we had practically NO rest. It's no coincidence both us and LAL were bounced early. We're a FAR better team now and Herro took a step forward. Unfortunately, Duncan took two steps back.

That said, even if we were to get past the Nets in a potential 1st round, it'd be the type of hard fought series I'd rather deal with later than sooner.

Kobewade11 · Post #200 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 1:57 pm

greg4012 wrote:

Context matters as to why last season's playoffs happened.

Divining anything from games where we played against team's benches and got blown out while on a clear slide and not matching effort is a waste of time IMO.

I'm just seeing way too much weight placed on things like the recent skid when it should not at all translate to playoff bball

Teams that go into the playoffs on a skid dont typically flip a switch. Its reasonable that fans would have trepidation about certain matchups based on that losing streak.