Michael Jordan reportedly has interest in acquiring Westbrook, Pacers joined the chat

[LAL1947]

I'd love to see and hear MJ losing it and start constantly calling Westbrook by his real - Westbrick - name since he has started building homes in Charlote now.

That would be comedy gold, lol. It kinda feels like Westbrick needs a personality as big and dominant as MJ to come down hard on him and wake him up from his extreme lack of self-awareness.

[TheLand13]

I highly doubt that. How many teams have 50mill in expirings? How many teams want Hayward at that contract? Some might want Rozier, but that would be difficult to find.

This is a perfect storm of desperation from the Lakers allowing the Hornets to clear some unwanted salary. Im not saying they should, but it's far, far from a bad move for them.

In regards to 2023, Garland will be extended by that point, as will Sexton if we choose to keep him and okoro will be due for one. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that we’ll have ample cap space.

Most important consideration for the Hornets is that 2023 is the last summer before Lamelo gets his max, which will make it harder (not impossible) to add considerable talent in FA.

My own team would probably love a deal like this. I guess it’s up to you to decide what Charlotte would take in return.

I doubt Cleveland would move Love straight up for Hayward. Cleveland themselves will have ample cap space in 2023 and have zero reason to throw that away for Hayward.

As a Cavs fan, you would actually do that trade? Cause i very much hate it for Cleveland

Hayward improves us at the wing position, and allows us to explore better defensive options at the PF position. I can’t deny how good Love has been this year but he’s not instrumental to our success.

And no we won’t. Garland will need to be extended by that point, as will Sexton if we choose to keep him. If we don’t keep Sexton then that’sa different story.

[mademan]

My own team would probably love a deal like this. I guess it’s up to you to decide what Charlotte would take in return.

I doubt Cleveland would move Love straight up for Hayward. Cleveland themselves will have ample cap space in 2023 and have zero reason to throw that away for Hayward.

As a Cavs fan, you would actually do that trade? Cause i very much hate it for Cleveland

Hayward improves us at the wing position, and allows us to explore better defensive options at the PF position. I can’t deny how good Love has been this year but he’s not instrumental to our success.

Hayward gets paid 30 mill/year to miss 30 games. He's a starter worthy player and would improve many teams.....when he plays. Nothing more important than availability; and doing this trade removes all flexibility for the Cavs.

Youre trying to double down here. It would be an objectively bad trade for the Cavs, and i imagine a lot of your Cavs brethren would agree. You would want assets to make this swap

[TheLand13]

I doubt Cleveland would move Love straight up for Hayward. Cleveland themselves will have ample cap space in 2023 and have zero reason to throw that away for Hayward.

As a Cavs fan, you would actually do that trade? Cause i very much hate it for Cleveland

Hayward improves us at the wing position, and allows us to explore better defensive options at the PF position. I can’t deny how good Love has been this year but he’s not instrumental to our success.

Hayward gets paid 30 mill/year to miss 30 games. He's a starter worthy player and would improve many teams.....when he plays. Nothing more important than availability; and doing this trade removes all flexibility for the Cavs.

Youre trying to double down here. It would be an objectively bad trade for the Cavs, and i imagine a lot of your Cavs brethren would agree. You would want assets to make this swap

I’m not doubling down on anything, nor am I saying I’d do the swap straight up. Pretty sure I made it clear that rozier needs to be included.

[CoachD]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

LOL what?

When's the last time the Lakers overwhelmingly won ANY trade?

[TheLand13]

You can give us Kevin Love for Hayward if you think he's so valuable. The outlet passes would be fun

That extra year doesn't sound so great huh?

I won’t say no… as long as you give us roz too.

You can have… umm, idk, Sexton? Yeah you can get Sexton.

I can tell you 100% the Cavs would not take Rozier's contract. They are only giving out tradeable contracts at this point. I do think they try to re-sign Sexton but it certainly won't be at the dollar amount that Charlotte is paying Rozier.

Sexton is gonna want around the amount rozier makes, if not more.

With that said, you are right now that I think about it. Cleveland wouldn’t want both with their current situation. Not sure why I thought that.

[floppymoose]

Jordan just likes having a player on the team that he can beat one on one

[TheLand13]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

LOL what?

When's the last time the Lakers overwhelmingly won ANY trade?

If the CP3 trade happened, it would’ve been that one.

[mademan]

Hayward improves us at the wing position, and allows us to explore better defensive options at the PF position. I can’t deny how good Love has been this year but he’s not instrumental to our success.

Hayward gets paid 30 mill/year to miss 30 games. He's a starter worthy player and would improve many teams.....when he plays. Nothing more important than availability; and doing this trade removes all flexibility for the Cavs.

Youre trying to double down here. It would be an objectively bad trade for the Cavs, and i imagine a lot of your Cavs brethren would agree. You would want assets to make this swap

I’m not doubling down on anything, nor am I saying I’d do the swap straight up. Pretty sure I made it clear that rozier needs to be included.

Even with Rozier (who i think gets a bad rap), this is the same situation as Charlotte, who's looking to dump those guys. You have a young core (Garland/Mobley/Allen and Lamelo/Bridges) who will be relatively cheap for a while. These vets dont do much but give a couple extra wins when you can get younger and better fitting guys by waiting a year and using the ample cap space. Neither team would want to tie up their cap in those guys

I think some teams would trade for Rozier and value him. Im just not seeing it right off the bat. I especially dont see a team that would take him if Hayward was tied to him

[TheLand13]

Hayward gets paid 30 mill/year to miss 30 games. He's a starter worthy player and would improve many teams.....when he plays. Nothing more important than availability; and doing this trade removes all flexibility for the Cavs.

Youre trying to double down here. It would be an objectively bad trade for the Cavs, and i imagine a lot of your Cavs brethren would agree. You would want assets to make this swap

I’m not doubling down on anything, nor am I saying I’d do the swap straight up. Pretty sure I made it clear that rozier needs to be included.

Even with Rozier (who i think gets a bad rap), this is the same situation as Charlotte, who's looking to dump those guys. You have a young core (Garland/Mobley/Allen and Lamelo/Bridges) who will be relatively cheap for a while. These vets dont do much but give a couple extra wins when you can get younger and better fitting guys by waiting a year and using the ample cap space. Neither team would want to tie up their cap in those guys

I think some teams would trade for Rozier and value him. Im just not seeing it right off the bat. I especially dont see a team that would take him if Hayward was tied to him

The difference between us and Charlotte is that Cleveland needs more scoring, especially at the perimeter. Is this the first move I’d make? Nah, but it’s not a bad idea to fall back on if we run out of solutions, especially if it rids us of Sexton (who wants to start which we just can’t afford to do).

But as another poster just pointed out, there’s no way Cleveland’s would do this because that just isn’t the direction they want to go, and yeah, I’m not really sure why I thought they would.

[Yeggo Poleggo]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

How is it a scam if the Hornets were actually to agree to it?

[DaGawd]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

How is it a scam if the Hornets were actually to agree to it?

Y’all must be fun at parties lol.

Who in their right mind would do that trade? Not that I legit think it’ll happen

[Yeggo Poleggo]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

How is it a scam if the Hornets were actually to agree to it?

Y’all must be fun at parties lol.

Who in their right mind would do that trade? Not that I legit think it’ll happen

Bru I threw parties for a living.

You just want to make clown comments about the Lakers.

[PhilBlackson]

It's truly hilarious & sad at the same time how MJ is the GOAT player and arguably WOAT GMs (if you can call him that but does have that kind of authority apparently lol).

[LAL1947]

They’re sending LaMelo for him. Just the latest scam trade by the Lakers.. you heard it here first

LOL what?

When's the last time the Lakers overwhelmingly won ANY trade?

If the CP3 trade happened, it would’ve been that one.

I think the league owes us one for nixing that deal.
We'll take Luka, please and thank you, Mr Silver.
That would also be fair because it was Cuban who created the fuss over CP3.

#karma #makeItRight

[TheLand13]

LOL what?

When's the last time the Lakers overwhelmingly won ANY trade?

If the CP3 trade happened, it would’ve been that one.

I think the league owes us one for nixing that deal.
We'll take Luka, please and thank you, Mr Silver.
That would also be fair because it was Cuban who kicked up a fuss.

#karma #makeItRight

You’d be better off with getting Trae in terms of fit.

[Perseus1966]

Leave it to another all-time great player who's been terrible as a GM to trade for Westbrook.

show somre rspect to MJ,he is the only player who spends money for bball ,all the others are receiving cheqs

[Noodlesoop]

Interesting scenario, might work for both teams for the reasons already discussed.

Rozier might fit well with his scoring, 3 point shot and doesn’t seem to be overly ball dominant (I.e. good fit with Bron) - is his defence at least average for a PG?

I don’t like the long term nature of Rozier’s contract, it might make him hard to trade in the future and reduces the ability to make free agent signings over the next couple of years.

Instead, Oubre Jnr might make more sense as he’s only under contract for $12m next year and the Lakers are DESPERATE for wings. I know his 3 point shot isn’t great but what’s his defence like?

[Lost Angel]

salary dumps usually come with picks, not the other way around. Don't expect the Lakers to add any picks if they're taking both Hayward and Rozier. Lakers should definitely do this, Hayward is a high IQ player and can actually shoot the ball. Rozier is better than Westbrook, we all know that, but his contract is terrible.

What picks could the Hornets add?

Westbrook is also a salary dump though. And Charlotte would almost certainly be taking on more money in the short term because the Lakers are looking to cut their tax payments for a team that isn't the title contender they thought it would be.

Westbrook is a $44m expiring aka “reset” which would give Charlotte almost 70m+ in cap space. They’d have to give up at least one future first round pick. Hayward is injury prone and Rozier is definitely a better player than Westbrook. But it’s the “reset” aspect that makes the deal favourable to Charlotte without any picks

[JustLucky]

i thought this was an older video about they way they were talking about the lakers future with westbrook and how they gotta play defense but this was made today... THEY ARE OUT NO ONE CARES