Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me”

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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#121 » by Joao Saraiva » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:33 pm

Maybe Vogel had an issue with Westbrook playing poor basketball?

Oh my. The names we're getting to be the next Lakers coach are hilarious. And LeBron wants Mark Jackson :lol: :lol:

I hope we get to see LeBron as a GM some day. It will be great to have a league with both MJ and LeBron making decisions to see who is the worst of all time in that regard
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#122 » by timO » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:37 pm

And Lebron is done too.

Lakers are finished too.

Lakers better rebuild like okc and houston did.

Get the picks from lebron and day to davis :lol:
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#123 » by John Murdoch » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:44 pm

He is the type to retire before he comes off the bench , hes that hard headed. After his contract expires it will be really really interesting to see if anyone offers him a starting job .
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#124 » by timO » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:49 pm

John Murdoch wrote:He is the type to retire before he comes off the bench , hes that hard headed. After his contract expires it will be really really interesting to see if anyone offers him a starting job .


He will have 35 years old, is difficult to start at PG at 35.

U need more arguments to hate on him, all are very cheap.
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#125 » by Snakebites » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:50 pm

As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.
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Post#126 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:56 pm

NBA is a big soap opera smh.NBA coverage has turned into TMZ. Nothing in regards to the actual play.


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Post#127 » by timO » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:02 pm

Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


sure

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westbru01.html

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Post#128 » by bbalnation » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:09 pm

Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career features more accolades and achievements than his (relatively and respectively in the industry).

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, in 2022, regardless of 1 season).
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#129 » by rickbrunson » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:11 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Vogel is unfairly being made the fall guy here. Imagine having to deal with headcases like Russ and Lebron on a daily basis


Exactly.

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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#130 » by GSWFan1994 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:14 pm

And... Mark Jackson is a Klutch client.

Do these guys think we are fools?
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#131 » by rickbrunson » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:15 pm

bbalnation wrote:
Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career is better than his.

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, recently, regardless of 1 season).


You see, son - life isn't all about being a success in your career. It's about being a good human being and acting in a respectful, respectable way. John Wooden would tell you the same thing, and that's what the poster is getting at when he says "UCLA grad". All you see is career success, but that's way down the hierarchy of importance. I have more respect for a regular guy who works hard and provides for his family, while acting in a respectful way than I do for some millionaire manchild who says reprehensible things in public and walks around in women's clothes. You need to reassess how you look at your life and who you idolize.
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Post#132 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:17 pm

timO wrote:
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Prior year they were 53-29

then 50-32 not much change :lol: :lol:

Russ played coming from and injured that playoffs.

Last year playoffs he played injured too, hes bad playoffs were the 2 last in okc.


The point is, this is the NBA, everyone can put up numbers with the ball in their hands. Just the fact that Westbrook is much more willing to dominate the ball than a Chris Paul or whoever else doesn't make his great if he can't produce at league average efficiency at minimum, which he hasnt been able to do for a few years now.


few years? this year is the worst PER ever for Russ, last year he was a 22-11-11 almost 12 per.

Vogel didnt know how to use him properly. He is a handicapped coach. They ask him to wait on corner 3 and put screens :lol:


There couldn't be any other reason why a 33 year old who's numbers have declined for the past 4 seasons before this year also saw his numbers decline again this year?

Maybe Shaq could come out of retirement and win a few more MVPs. His numbers at the end of his career didn't progressively decline because of age, it was just that the coaches weren't using him right.
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Post#133 » by bbalnation » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:19 pm

rickbrunson wrote:
bbalnation wrote:
Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career is better than his.

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, recently, regardless of 1 season).


You see, son - life isn't all about being a success in your career. It's about being a good human being and acting in a respectful, respectable way. John Wooden would tell you the same thing, and that's what the poster is getting at when he says "UCLA grad". All you see is career success, but that's way down the hierarchy of importance. I have more respect for a regular guy who works hard and provides for his family, while acting in a respectful way than I do for some millionaire manchild who says reprehensible things in public and walks around in women's clothes. You need to reassess how you look at your life and who you idolize.


Google:

https://whynotfoundation.org/

https://www.thesportofphilanthropy.com/shining-star/russell-westbrook-goes-coast-to-coast-with-financial-empowerment-and-philanthropy


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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#134 » by Snakebites » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:26 pm

bbalnation wrote:
Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career features more accolades and achievements than his (relatively and respectively in the industry).

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, in 2022, regardless of 1 season).

You are reading way to much into it. I’m just saying that as a grad I root for and identify with others affiliated with the school, and the way he’s behaving is disappointing.

I was not in any way comparing myself to him. He’s way better at basketball than I’ll ever be at anything.
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#135 » by Klayforspicy » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:31 pm

John Murdoch wrote:He is the type to retire before he comes off the bench , hes that hard headed. After his contract expires it will be really really interesting to see if anyone offers him a starting job .

Unless the intention is to lose games, Im not sure he will start on another team. Its too much of a handicap/uphill battle to take a heliocentric approach to a 33 year old damaged goods Russell Westbrook


theres a slight chance he has a Wizards like resurgence but it certainly won’t lead to any meaningful success
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Post#136 » by bbalnation » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:31 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:As a UCLA grad it's difficult to articulate how disappointing I find Russell Westbrook to be.


Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career features more accolades and achievements than his (relatively and respectively in the industry).

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, in 2022, regardless of 1 season).

You are reading way to much into it. I’m just saying that as a grad I root for and identify with others affiliated with the school, and the way he’s behaving is disappointing.

I was not in any way comparing myself to him. He’s way better at basketball than I’ll ever be at anything.


Im not reading too much into it.

There have been false reports about Russ coming out, ongoingly, but especially now at the end of the season.

Joining in on the parade, with the words that HE is disappointing, is a different form of fanhood.

Thanks for clarifying that. Do you.
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#137 » by Snakebites » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:33 pm

bbalnation wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
bbalnation wrote:
Interesting.

The way i read this: you're putting yourself out there (digitally) to say your professional career to Russell Westbrook wouldn't be disappointing compared to the decisions he's made.

Im sure your professional career features more accolades and achievements than his (relatively and respectively in the industry).

Someone already posted his basketball references link. It's also worth noting he was voted by someone to the NBAs top 75 list (historically, in his profession, in 2022, regardless of 1 season).

You are reading way to much into it. I’m just saying that as a grad I root for and identify with others affiliated with the school, and the way he’s behaving is disappointing.

I was not in any way comparing myself to him. He’s way better at basketball than I’ll ever be at anything.


Im not reading too much into it.

I have a different view on what rooting for a player looks like. Thanks for clarifying that.

Fine, reading the wrong thing. You said “the way I read this is” then proceeded to say something that wasn’t in any way related to where I was coming from.

And that’s okay. My initial post was worded generally.
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#138 » by timO » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:51 pm

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
timO wrote:
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The point is, this is the NBA, everyone can put up numbers with the ball in their hands. Just the fact that Westbrook is much more willing to dominate the ball than a Chris Paul or whoever else doesn't make his great if he can't produce at league average efficiency at minimum, which he hasnt been able to do for a few years now.


few years? this year is the worst PER ever for Russ, last year he was a 22-11-11 almost 12 per.

Vogel didnt know how to use him properly. He is a handicapped coach. They ask him to wait on corner 3 and put screens :lol:


There couldn't be any other reason why a 33 year old who's numbers have declined for the past 4 seasons before this year also saw his numbers decline again this year?

Maybe Shaq could come out of retirement and win a few more MVPs. His numbers at the end of his career didn't progressively decline because of age, it was just that the coaches weren't using him right.


As a Russ fan i see his decline and is progressive, this season is so massive to not view that the poor fit+trash coach was the key for his performance.

Next year he will be putting better numbers than this season for sure.
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#139 » by Mike87 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:03 pm

The audacity of this man
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Re: Westbrook on Vogel: “I don’t know what his issue was with me” 

Post#140 » by mulamutti » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:10 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Vogel might be the first coach to get fired that I feel happy for. Nobody deserves to coach this team except maybe MJax. Please make it happen, it would be high comedy!

Doc Rivers would also be fun.

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