When is Isaac Returning? Ruled out for the entire 2021-2022 season

[Magic_Kingdom]

We've always had whackadoodles...the scary development is that some of our "normal"neighbors are buying in on a large scale. Frightening revelation...that this group has become more than an amusing story. Isaac is "useful idiot"...most of the hacks speaking get rich from selling this BS to the weak and stupid (who are always looking for someone else to point at), they're all probably like "what the hell is HE doing here?"

What he is doing there is lending apparent legitimacy to the lunatic fringe. Here is this upstanding, Christian, squeaky clean NBA player sharing the stage with a former general who recently advocated a military coup in the United States, and the MyPillow CEO who advocated the imposition of martial law.

You said it yourself, he is likely the "useful idiot". He allows the far right wing to claim they are more mainstream than people think. And like I said in a previous post, anti-vaxxers and anti-kneelers who follow Isaac are prime candidates for targeted information campaigns because they are more likely to believe dark forces (in government, civil rights movements, academia, medicine) are out to get them.

Omg, Isaac may not have the same views as you. He must be an idiot.

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"Useful Idiot" is a political term of art describing someone who is being manipulated to promote a cause without necessarily knowing it. It does not mean the person is an actual idiot.

Please refrain from insulting other posters in this manner - Knightro

[basketballRob]

What he is doing there is lending apparent legitimacy to the lunatic fringe. Here is this upstanding, Christian, squeaky clean NBA player sharing the stage with a former general who recently advocated a military coup in the United States, and the MyPillow CEO who advocated the imposition of martial law.

You said it yourself, he is likely the "useful idiot". He allows the far right wing to claim they are more mainstream than people think. And like I said in a previous post, anti-vaxxers and anti-kneelers who follow Isaac are prime candidates for targeted information campaigns because they are more likely to believe dark forces (in government, civil rights movements, academia, medicine) are out to get them.

Omg, Isaac may not have the same views as you. He must be an idiot.

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"Useful Idiot" is a political term of art describing someone who is being manipulated to promote a cause without necessarily knowing it. It does not mean the person is an actual idiot.

Is this reverse psychology? You act like a adolescent and then accuse someone of acting that way.

When you describe someone as a useful idiot, they're an idiot that's being used by person or group of people.

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[RookieStar]

Qanon is not your average 'political' group. It's almost the equivalent of saying 'shouldn't you be okay with your coworker being part of the KKK as long as he doesn't bring it up at work?'.... um... no, some things are not okay.

Matter of perspective....

you know.. glad you touched on the kkk part. Did you know to quite a few people here in asia.. well tbh, outside USA, people who try to understand a little about what is happening there consider blm equal to kkk? Like they consider it one of those racist group like nazis and etc. Especially when they saw all the looting and stuff on the news? Hard to explain to them its more about equal protection against police brutality and all when they see news about asian hate, looting, stealing and getting away with it etc etc. especially from the Singaporean group ( esp those 40s above ) where law is king for them.

But yeah... moving on from political talk....

Point is.. if JI is not causing trouble in the locker room then I have no problems with him.

Can you provide some sources of Asian media that's portraying BLM like nazis and the KKK?

Asian media? Lol since when does asian media focus about social issues in the USA? Im talking about my co-workers , friends , colleagues , former classmates etc. You mention blm riots and looting, russia- ukr war, euro immigration crisis , etc they give their opinion on the knowledge they have..

Same knowledge I expect Euros and AMericans have I think with chinas blatant invasion of SEA countries eez, latest lockdown, democratic rallies and etc

Yes, I worked with different groups of people like ethnicity, religion and etc cuz I work for a " financial institution " hint hint and where im stationed at right now is I deal with Asian owned businesses.

[Ducklett]

At least you guys could be more exact with your language while you yell past each other. Are you guys talking about BLM the idea or BLM the political org? One I think most people agree with the general premise while the other is being investigated by the IRS, CharityWatch has given it the worst grade they have, and it is slowly looking like more of a scam than a real charity.

[RookieStar]

At least you guys could be more exact with your language while you yell past each other. Are you guys talking about BLM the idea or BLM the political org? One I think most people agree with the general premise while the other is being investigated by the IRS, CharityWatch has given it the worst grade they have, and it is slowly looking like more of a scam than a real charity.

Lol.. I explicitly did say in my post they agree about polic brutality and everyone should be equal and gtfo with racism... but as to the blm org/movement where they saw a lot of looting, racism and asian hate and the perpetuators claiming blm to get out of the penalty and etc etc.. and i didnt talk about them with the blm stealing money and the founder buy a multi-million mansion... besidea doubt they heard much or care about it especially when their attention right now.is the draconian measures being put into place in shanghai.

[basketballRob]

His book is out now if you want to know why he stands.

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[Xatticus]

His book is out now if you want to know why he stands.

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I don't.

I assume it was so that he could make some money off of writing a book about it, since a book isn't a necessary or preferred method of getting your message out unless your intent is to make some money.

[swarlesbarkley]

Matter of perspective....

you know.. glad you touched on the kkk part. Did you know to quite a few people here in asia.. well tbh, outside USA, people who try to understand a little about what is happening there consider blm equal to kkk? Like they consider it one of those racist group like nazis and etc. Especially when they saw all the looting and stuff on the news? Hard to explain to them its more about equal protection against police brutality and all when they see news about asian hate, looting, stealing and getting away with it etc etc. especially from the Singaporean group ( esp those 40s above ) where law is king for them.

But yeah... moving on from political talk....

Point is.. if JI is not causing trouble in the locker room then I have no problems with him.

Can you provide some sources of Asian media that's portraying BLM like nazis and the KKK?

Asian media? Lol since when does asian media focus about social issues in the USA? Im talking about my co-workers , friends , colleagues , former classmates etc. You mention blm riots and looting, russia- ukr war, euro immigration crisis , etc they give their opinion on the knowledge they have..

Same knowledge I expect Euros and AMericans have I think with chinas blatant invasion of SEA countries eez, latest lockdown, democratic rallies and etc

Yes, I worked with different groups of people like ethnicity, religion and etc cuz I work for a " financial institution " hint hint and where im stationed at right now is I deal with Asian owned businesses.

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

[swarlesbarkley]

His book is out now if you want to know why he stands.

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I don't.

I assume it was so that he could make some money off of writing a book about it, since a book isn't a necessary or preferred method of getting your message out unless your intent is to make some money.

One has to wonder if JI is doing all these dog whistles in order to build a following for his congregation, whenever he leaves bball for the pulpit.

[basketballRob]

His book is out now if you want to know why he stands.

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I don't.

I assume it was so that he could make some money off of writing a book about it, since a book isn't a necessary or preferred method of getting your message out unless your intent is to make some money.

One has to wonder if JI is doing all these dog whistles in order to build a following for his congregation, whenever he leaves bball for the pulpit.

He would be a very good basketball commentator if he chose to do that.

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[jezzerinho]

Just when I thought I couldn't care less about Jonathan Isaac....

[RookieStar]

Can you provide some sources of Asian media that's portraying BLM like nazis and the KKK?

Asian media? Lol since when does asian media focus about social issues in the USA? Im talking about my co-workers , friends , colleagues , former classmates etc. You mention blm riots and looting, russia- ukr war, euro immigration crisis , etc they give their opinion on the knowledge they have..

Same knowledge I expect Euros and AMericans have I think with chinas blatant invasion of SEA countries eez, latest lockdown, democratic rallies and etc

Yes, I worked with different groups of people like ethnicity, religion and etc cuz I work for a " financial institution " hint hint and where im stationed at right now is I deal with Asian owned businesses.

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

I can actually understand their line of thinking. They don't watch/use those what you call left/right media aka CNN,Fox,etc. Put yourself in their shoes, they are far from the "epicenter" and thus they can analyze critically and without bias what is happening. They have no emotional or vested interest so every analysis they have is maybe cold BUT fair.

Also bear in mind when I say colleagues , these people usually have initials in their name ( things like MBA, PHD and etc) from reputable schools around the globe ( and not from gender studies, swahili studies and whatever courses UNC players got investigated for lol ) Again when I talk of clients, these people own businesses that at least have 6 zeroes in net worth in USD. And these are not like start-up companies, some of these are generations owned by the same family wherein their descendants were sent to schools around the globe. Ignorant? Don't think so. So yeah.. these people are analytical and call everything " a spade " so to speak.

So you can't call them ignorant.. maybe disinterested?? Same as I siad to mmost posters here if we talk about what is happening in their neck of the woods like shanghai lockdown measures, how china is debt-trapping countries , how their businesses have to scramble for alternative and competitive raw materials because of the rus-ukr war, etc etc

But yeah.... we are getting waaaay off-topic already. lol let's go back.

[drsd]

Surgery for a 'minor' hamstring injury isn't normal from what I understand....

That said, I don't care. As long as he's ready to play at the start of the season, heal up big man.

That's why the team failed to mention the exact nature of the injury or the type of surgical procedure in the press release. It was minor and small, move along, nothing to see here.

The fact that he suffered a surgical hamstring injury without even reaching the point of full practice participant decreases the odds that we see him at the start of next season. The lower extremity injuries are starting to pile up and it's been almost 20 months since he played his last game. If he does start the season there is probably a zero percent chance he finishes it.

PBO Weltman went out of his way to point out this was on his not-surgically repaired-knee leg.

But that proves the point: Isaac had a set-back. There is no other narrative in that. Isaac injured himself in his recoveries. Period / Full-stop.

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[drsd]

Qanon friendly, great. On the bill with the Pillow Guy and Michael Flynn (pleaded guilty twice to lying to federal investigators).

Sort of takes the mystery out of why the DeVos family pays him tens of millions of dollars to not play basketball.

Kyrie Irving publicly supported a Flat Earth

Steph Curry did not accept man has been to the moon.

Somehow the league is fine with these two.

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There is only one question for Isaac moving forward, Can he have a positive WARP stat line defending his abilities to win game?
The current Magicians generally seem OK with Isaac. And he is not really a make-friction kind of person.

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[LDNMagic90]

Asian media? Lol since when does asian media focus about social issues in the USA? Im talking about my co-workers , friends , colleagues , former classmates etc. You mention blm riots and looting, russia- ukr war, euro immigration crisis , etc they give their opinion on the knowledge they have..

Same knowledge I expect Euros and AMericans have I think with chinas blatant invasion of SEA countries eez, latest lockdown, democratic rallies and etc

Yes, I worked with different groups of people like ethnicity, religion and etc cuz I work for a " financial institution " hint hint and where im stationed at right now is I deal with Asian owned businesses.

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

I can actually understand their line of thinking. They don't watch/use those what you call left/right media aka CNN,Fox,etc. Put yourself in their shoes, they are far from the "epicenter" and thus they can analyze critically and without bias what is happening. They have no emotional or vested interest so every analysis they have is maybe cold BUT fair.

Also bear in mind when I say colleagues , these people usually have initials in their name ( things like MBA, PHD and etc) from reputable schools around the globe ( and not from gender studies, swahili studies and whatever courses UNC players got investigated for lol ) Again when I talk of clients, these people own businesses that at least have 6 zeroes in net worth in USD. And these are not like start-up companies, some of these are generations owned by the same family wherein their descendants were sent to schools around the globe. Ignorant? Don't think so. So yeah.. these people are analytical and call everything " a spade " so to speak.

So you can't call them ignorant.. maybe disinterested?? Same as I siad to mmost posters here if we talk about what is happening in their neck of the woods like shanghai lockdown measures, how china is debt-trapping countries , how their businesses have to scramble for alternative and competitive raw materials because of the rus-ukr war, etc etc

But yeah.... we are getting waaaay off-topic already. lol let's go back.

I'm not really wanting to keep this going as I don't want the topic to go completely off topic, but for me having success/money doesn't mean you can't be ignorant I don't think the two correlate much. It's probably unintentional ignorance in regards to some topics, like the ones you've stated I have not much knowledge on some of the things happening in that region. So I'd say unintentionally I'm ignorant towards that, I'll definitely look into what is happening over there though.

[Xatticus]

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

I can actually understand their line of thinking. They don't watch/use those what you call left/right media aka CNN,Fox,etc. Put yourself in their shoes, they are far from the "epicenter" and thus they can analyze critically and without bias what is happening. They have no emotional or vested interest so every analysis they have is maybe cold BUT fair.

Also bear in mind when I say colleagues , these people usually have initials in their name ( things like MBA, PHD and etc) from reputable schools around the globe ( and not from gender studies, swahili studies and whatever courses UNC players got investigated for lol ) Again when I talk of clients, these people own businesses that at least have 6 zeroes in net worth in USD. And these are not like start-up companies, some of these are generations owned by the same family wherein their descendants were sent to schools around the globe. Ignorant? Don't think so. So yeah.. these people are analytical and call everything " a spade " so to speak.

So you can't call them ignorant.. maybe disinterested?? Same as I siad to mmost posters here if we talk about what is happening in their neck of the woods like shanghai lockdown measures, how china is debt-trapping countries , how their businesses have to scramble for alternative and competitive raw materials because of the rus-ukr war, etc etc

But yeah.... we are getting waaaay off-topic already. lol let's go back.

I'm not really wanting to keep this going as I don't want the topic to go completely off topic, but for me having success/money doesn't mean you can't be ignorant I don't think the two correlate much. It's probably unintentional ignorance in regards to some topics, like the ones you've stated I have not much knowledge on some of the things happening in that region. So I'd say unintentionally I'm ignorant towards that, I'll definitely look into what is happening over there though.

I lost sight of whatever this argument is about a long while back.

What I do know is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_anecdote

I have met people that think this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Those people that think that are authorities because...

There is no point in arguing the merits of logical fallacies. If I had any interest in doing that, I wouldn't have blocked pepe.

[RookieStar]

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

I can actually understand their line of thinking. They don't watch/use those what you call left/right media aka CNN,Fox,etc. Put yourself in their shoes, they are far from the "epicenter" and thus they can analyze critically and without bias what is happening. They have no emotional or vested interest so every analysis they have is maybe cold BUT fair.

Also bear in mind when I say colleagues , these people usually have initials in their name ( things like MBA, PHD and etc) from reputable schools around the globe ( and not from gender studies, swahili studies and whatever courses UNC players got investigated for lol ) Again when I talk of clients, these people own businesses that at least have 6 zeroes in net worth in USD. And these are not like start-up companies, some of these are generations owned by the same family wherein their descendants were sent to schools around the globe. Ignorant? Don't think so. So yeah.. these people are analytical and call everything " a spade " so to speak.

So you can't call them ignorant.. maybe disinterested?? Same as I siad to mmost posters here if we talk about what is happening in their neck of the woods like shanghai lockdown measures, how china is debt-trapping countries , how their businesses have to scramble for alternative and competitive raw materials because of the rus-ukr war, etc etc

But yeah.... we are getting waaaay off-topic already. lol let's go back.

I'm not really wanting to keep this going as I don't want the topic to go completely off topic, but for me having success/money doesn't mean you can't be ignorant I don't think the two correlate much. It's probably unintentional ignorance in regards to some topics, like the ones you've stated I have not much knowledge on some of the things happening in that region. So I'd say unintentionally I'm ignorant towards that, I'll definitely look into what is happening over there though.

Yeah I get your point. But let me make it clear, Im not saying just because they have money/success.. I meant it that the colleagues/bosses I have made it through merit and they experienced a lot to get where they are ( so in other words, " they seen some ish to get where they are now ). And to those who own the businesses..as I said, these aren't the startup businesses where you get lucky and become instant millionaires before you sell it off to Bezos or something, the owners probably also went through and experienced a lot.

I guess my point regarding their viewpoint is... they leave emotion out and just weigh everything down cynically without bias? Also, don't want to get this OT as well, just wanted to clarify about that. lol

[Duradero]

A lot of leftists are revealing themselves here. JI is a good dude.

[tiderulz]

A lot of leftists are revealing themselves here. JI is a good dude.

by saying how bad Qanon is?

[swarlesbarkley]

Asian media? Lol since when does asian media focus about social issues in the USA? Im talking about my co-workers , friends , colleagues , former classmates etc. You mention blm riots and looting, russia- ukr war, euro immigration crisis , etc they give their opinion on the knowledge they have..

Same knowledge I expect Euros and AMericans have I think with chinas blatant invasion of SEA countries eez, latest lockdown, democratic rallies and etc

Yes, I worked with different groups of people like ethnicity, religion and etc cuz I work for a " financial institution " hint hint and where im stationed at right now is I deal with Asian owned businesses.

Sounds like it's just ignorant people being ignorant then.

It also doesn't sound like these are "people who try to understand".

I can actually understand their line of thinking. They don't watch/use those what you call left/right media aka CNN,Fox,etc. Put yourself in their shoes, they are far from the "epicenter" and thus they can analyze critically and without bias what is happening. They have no emotional or vested interest so every analysis they have is maybe cold BUT fair.

Also bear in mind when I say colleagues , these people usually have initials in their name ( things like MBA, PHD and etc) from reputable schools around the globe ( and not from gender studies, swahili studies and whatever courses UNC players got investigated for lol ) Again when I talk of clients, these people own businesses that at least have 6 zeroes in net worth in USD. And these are not like start-up companies, some of these are generations owned by the same family wherein their descendants were sent to schools around the globe. Ignorant? Don't think so. So yeah.. these people are analytical and call everything " a spade " so to speak.

So you can't call them ignorant.. maybe disinterested?? Same as I siad to mmost posters here if we talk about what is happening in their neck of the woods like shanghai lockdown measures, how china is debt-trapping countries , how their businesses have to scramble for alternative and competitive raw materials because of the rus-ukr war, etc etc

But yeah.... we are getting waaaay off-topic already. lol let's go back.

There are problems with the BLM organization but anyone comparing them to nazis and the kkk is not thinking critically, regardless of how many initials they have in front of their names.