College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45

Zenzibar · Post #1621 » by **Zenzibar** » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:06 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:If Shaedon Sharpe declares, then I’m hoping for him.

Spree, check out this Malaki Branham kid. He would be the perfect 2nd unit 2 guard, if both Evan is traded and if Grimes starts.

Spree2Houston · Post #1622 » by **Spree2Houston** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:20 am

Zenzibar wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:If Shaedon Sharpe declares, then I’m hoping for him.

Spree, check out this Malaki Branham kid. He would be the perfect 2nd unit 2 guard, if both Evan is traded and if Grimes starts.

I love his game. He reminds me a little bit of Khris Middletown. I can see him rising into the top 8 by draft night.

aq_ua · Post #1623 » by **aq_ua** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:32 am

8516knicks wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:The more I've researched this draft the more I've fallen in love with this class as a whole. There are so many guys in our range that I think can have bright futures as elite role players and some have some "star" upside IMO. Lots of wings and combo guards who could fit perfect around a team built with IQ, RJ, Grimes, and Obi in mind. I'm way less pressed about not getting great lottery odds to tell you the truth. Just a few of the guys i'm intrigued by:

Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Blake Wesley
Jaden Hardy
Dyson Daniels
Agbaji
Christian Braun
Mark Williams
EJ Liddell
Wendell Moore
Tari Eason
Beauchamp

All those guys really pique my interest and a lot of them fit the bill of a wing or big connector type which the Knicks have sorely lacked for a while now.

Kessler, Daniels, Wesley maybe Williams.

Sochan would be nice as a defensive 3/4, especially if we move Randle. Kennedy Chandler gets such little love here. Sure, he’s small, but he can shoot, pass, handle and actually run an offense. We should be all over that.

thebuzzardman · Post #1624 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:37 am

I'm hoping the Knicks draft someone disappointing to the fanbase and where there are at least 5 other players drafted afterwards who are clearly better.

There.

Now I'm aligned with how the Knicks operate. Low chance of disappointment.

Post #1625 » by **moocow007** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:32 pm

Meat wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Meat wrote:were people actually sour? or like mad he wasnt gonna be a knick?

They were sour. Because he comes off as an ass and can't shoot 3's. Calling him all sorts of things. I honestly don't remember a draft where the projected top 3 guys were hated more by more people than that 2020 draft. And all cause of the same old criteria (can't shoot 3's, comes off as a selfish ass). They don't want those types of players being cancers on a young team especially if they can't shoot 3's. So far sure looks like Edwards and Ball have done nothing but made their respective teams much better and themselves look like burgeoning stars/superstars in the making. Folks couldn't get pass the shooting and the personality.

wait, are we on an old man forum? where people are mad at kids for "not playing the game the right way"

I'm an old man actually compared to most (except Wingo) lol. At the end of the day, I'll take an **** that can help my team win over a boyscout that can't move the needle any day. Some of the greatest dynasties in NBA history of chuck full of a-holes and arrogant pricks. Now by no means am I discounting the ability to shoot 3's as an important skill to have but you don't need every player to be able to shoot 3's. While it's real nice if your PG can shoot 3's it's much more important for them to be able to do the traditional point guard things really really really well. That's the stuff that point guards have always been needing to do since basketball was invented well before the 3 pointer was the flavor of the day. Especially for a low talent, limited ball handling/passing team like the Knicks that rely on their PF to be their PG. How he comes off I couldn't care less about IF he can help make my team better.

Zenzibar · Post #1626 » by **Zenzibar** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:39 pm

aq_ua wrote:
8516knicks wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:The more I've researched this draft the more I've fallen in love with this class as a whole. There are so many guys in our range that I think can have bright futures as elite role players and some have some "star" upside IMO. Lots of wings and combo guards who could fit perfect around a team built with IQ, RJ, Grimes, and Obi in mind. I'm way less pressed about not getting great lottery odds to tell you the truth. Just a few of the guys i'm intrigued by:

Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Blake Wesley
Jaden Hardy
Dyson Daniels
Agbaji
Christian Braun
Mark Williams
EJ Liddell
Wendell Moore
Tari Eason
Beauchamp

All those guys really pique my interest and a lot of them fit the bill of a wing or big connector type which the Knicks have sorely lacked for a while now.

Kessler, Daniels, Wesley maybe Williams.

Sochan would be nice as a defensive 3/4, especially if we move Randle. Kennedy Chandler gets such little love here. Sure, he’s small, but he can shoot, pass, handle and actually run an offense. We should be all over that.

Reminds me of Ron Artest without the extra baggage.

fatalogic · Post #1627 » by **fatalogic** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:41 pm

I'm liking Dyson Daniels. With his size and defensive ability, there is even a chance he would get PT. Unfortunately, I don't see them picking him unless they somehow move off a number of vets. He might not even be there at 11.

WargamesX · Post #1628 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:41 pm

I like Sochan, Kendall, and Dyson the most for guys who should be in the knicks range. Though honestly, I respect this FO regime drafting enough I am open to whomever they draft.

Zenzibar · Post #1629 » by **Zenzibar** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:46 pm

Which past draft does this one remind you guys of?

Me, I'd say 2017

Markelle Fultz
Philadelphia 76ers

Lonzo Ball
Los Angeles Lakers

Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics

Josh Jackson
Phoenix Suns

De'Aaron Fox
Sacramento Kings

Jonathan Isaac
Orlando Magic

Lauri Markkanen
Minnesota Timberwolves

Frank Ntilikina
New York Knicks

Dennis Smith Jr.
Dallas Mavericks

Zach Collins
Sacramento Kings

Malik Monk
Charlotte Hornets

Luke Kennard
Detroit Pistons

Donovan Mitchell
Denver Nuggets

Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat

In Walt Perrin we trust :pray:

Zenzibar · Post #1630 » by **Zenzibar** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:50 pm

knickstape21 receives the gem finder award for this one: :clap:

Watch on YouTube

DrCoach · Post #1631 » by **DrCoach** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 pm

Zenzibar wrote:knickstape21 receives the gem finder award for this one:

Watch on YouTube

Reminds me of Bradley Beal

Zenzibar · Post #1632 » by **Zenzibar** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:30 pm

DrCoach wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:knickstape21 receives the gem finder award for this one:

Watch on YouTube

Reminds me of Bradley Beal

Funny you posted that, Washington is picking right before us and may by looking at the next Beal replacement.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1633 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:38 pm

Zenzibar wrote:Which past draft does this one remind you guys of?

Me, I'd say 2017

Markelle Fultz
Philadelphia 76ers

Lonzo Ball
Los Angeles Lakers

Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics

Josh Jackson
Phoenix Suns

De'Aaron Fox
Sacramento Kings

Jonathan Isaac
Orlando Magic

Lauri Markkanen
Minnesota Timberwolves

Frank Ntilikina
New York Knicks

Dennis Smith Jr.
Dallas Mavericks

Zach Collins
Sacramento Kings

Malik Monk
Charlotte Hornets

Luke Kennard
Detroit Pistons

Donovan Mitchell
Denver Nuggets

Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat

In Walt Perrin we trust

This is a pretty good class comp where there were questions about the guys at the top of the draft and how good they would actually be, but the rest of the draft/lottery was littered with easily projectable role players w/ some decent upside and some risky star upside guys

Post #1634 » by **moocow007** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:35 pm

She would be the best pure point guard on this team if she were a Knick

Watch on YouTube

And technically no rule against the Knicks signing a female basketball player.

WargamesX · Post #1635 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:51 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Which past draft does this one remind you guys of?

Me, I'd say 2017

Markelle Fultz
Philadelphia 76ers

Lonzo Ball
Los Angeles Lakers

Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics

Josh Jackson
Phoenix Suns

De'Aaron Fox
Sacramento Kings

Jonathan Isaac
Orlando Magic

Lauri Markkanen
Minnesota Timberwolves

Frank Ntilikina
New York Knicks

Dennis Smith Jr.
Dallas Mavericks

Zach Collins
Sacramento Kings

Malik Monk
Charlotte Hornets

Luke Kennard
Detroit Pistons

Donovan Mitchell
Denver Nuggets

Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat

In Walt Perrin we trust

This is a pretty good class comp where there were questions about the guys at the top of the draft and how good they would actually be, but the rest of the draft/lottery was littered with easily projectable role players w/ some decent upside and some risky star upside guys

Yeah I could see it. Banchero or Jabari being Tatum or Josh Jackson, Chet being Fultz, and Ivey being the De’aron Fox. Even the fact Duren is compared to Bam and I think he is the safest pick in this whole draft.

TerrenceClarke · Post #1636 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:She would be the best pure point guard on this team if she were a Knick

Watch on YouTube

And technically no rule against the Knicks signing a female basketball player.

I rock with Paige Heavy she get busy UCONN was my Favorite along with South Carolina. I actually watch alot of Womens College Ball. Its a much better product than the WNBA which I never watch.

My favorite Player is Ashley Owusu I love here game. There is no young guard on the Knicks with this good of a handle and flair :noway:

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Fat · Post #1637 » by **Fat** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:52 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:knickstape21 receives the gem finder award for this one:

Watch on YouTube

Reminds me of Bradley Beal

Funny you posted that, Washington is picking right before us and may by looking at the next Beal replacement.

I think they go point guard there point guard situation is more depressing than ours

WargamesX · Post #1638 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:59 pm

On another note I was watching this “locked on Knicks” video that was okay… but they brought up a good point. The Knicks might use trade capitol to move “up” in the draft to get someone. Lee constantly are aware they have little chance at guys like Mathurin, or Ivey…. But the Knicks have the assets to package for a deal. Maybe they could move up to 6 or 7 in this draft if someone they like is there.

cgmw · Post #1639 » by **cgmw** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:06 pm

WargamesX wrote:On another note I was watching this “locked on Knicks” video that was okay… but they brought up a good point. The Knicks might use trade capitol to move “up” in the draft to get someone. Lee constantly are aware they have little chance at guys like Mathurin, or Ivey…. But the Knicks have the assets to package for a deal. Maybe they could move up to 6 or 7 in this draft if someone they like is there.

Fun stats from the last 20 years:

• Years RealGM poster predicted Knicks trading into top of draft: 20/20 (100%)

• Years Knicks traded up: 0/20 (O%)

WargamesX · Post #1640 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:08 pm

cgmw wrote:
WargamesX wrote:On another note I was watching this “locked on Knicks” video that was okay… but they brought up a good point. The Knicks might use trade capitol to move “up” in the draft to get someone. Lee constantly are aware they have little chance at guys like Mathurin, or Ivey…. But the Knicks have the assets to package for a deal. Maybe they could move up to 6 or 7 in this draft if someone they like is there.

Fun stats from the last 20 years:

• Years RealGM poster predicted Knicks trading into top of draft: 20/20 (100%)

• Years Knicks traded up: 0/20 (O%)

To be fair I didn’t say the top I said 4 spots up at most.