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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0 

Post#961 » by Ell Curry » Mon May 2, 2022 2:25 am

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Instead, give them Siakam and take Ayton and how ever many 1st picks Masai can negotiate to even things out. I'd send them 2nd picks in those year so make it look like a swap but the Raptors don't care because they are good at undrafted's.

Once again, flip the 1st picks from Phoenix with FVV plus filler and as many 1st picks as it takes to get Beal.


Siakam saves Sarver no money, might as well just keep Ayton if you're them. I guess we could take back some bad money in the form of Shamet and Saric.


I predict we sign both Boucher and Thad as the defacto offseason and that Malachi gets dealt. Armoni is likely Fred's back-up. I would like to see them backfill three positions with the 33rd pick and maybe sign some undrafted players like big Drew Timme. Not sure if Yuta will still have a home.


I think Flynn is the type of young player that rarely gets dealt because we probably think has more potential than other teams, since we liked him enough to draft him, and nobody is going to be excited about getting him if we're happy to move him, even if he had a nice few game run near the end of the season.

Also really don't think Armoni is seen as being counted on to part of the rotation. Even if we sign Boucher and Thad and even overpay them like say 13 and 10M each in their first years, we still have like 7-9M left under the tax to use and might as well pay a guard like that much, like an Alec Burks (who I would really like here for a 1 year deal), or use the 5M TPE to get one, even if it's just a sleepy reliable veteran Canadian like Cory Joseph or a developmental Canadian like Nickeil Alexander-Walker.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0 

Post#962 » by sule » Mon May 2, 2022 3:49 am

This may be out of left field, but I'd like the Raps to take a chance on Guerschon Yabusele.

PF. 6-8 w/ 7-1 wingspan. 26yrs old. Plays in Europe, and has been shooting the 3 really well (0.408 on 3.5 attempts). He looks strong as hell too.

Defensively, his scouting reports say he was a willing defender and has active hands.

He'd fit right into what Masai is building here, and his strength could help us in the middle battling against bigger, stronger players that push our guys around.

Probably wouldn't cost anymore than what we're already paying Svi or Yuta to bring him over.
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Post#963 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon May 2, 2022 1:07 pm

sule wrote:This may be out of left field, but I'd like the Raps to take a chance on Guerschon Yabusele.

PF. 6-8 w/ 7-1 wingspan. 26yrs old. Plays in Europe, and has been shooting the 3 really well (0.408 on 3.5 attempts). He looks strong as hell too.

Defensively, his scouting reports say he was a willing defender and has active hands.

He'd fit right into what Masai is building here, and his strength could help us in the middle battling against bigger, stronger players that push our guys around.

Probably wouldn't cost anymore than what we're already paying Svi or Yuta to bring him over.


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Post#964 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon May 2, 2022 1:16 pm

Many of you seem to be focused on the Utah Jazz, but what about the Denver Nuggets? Maybe they feel it is time to shake things up over there. Is it time to try to bring Jamal Murray home?

Will an FVV and Birch for Murray trade as the framework work? Salaries work according to the ESPN trade checker.
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Post#965 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon May 2, 2022 1:17 pm

sule wrote:This may be out of left field, but I'd like the Raps to take a chance on Guerschon Yabusele.

PF. 6-8 w/ 7-1 wingspan. 26yrs old. Plays in Europe, and has been shooting the 3 really well (0.408 on 3.5 attempts). He looks strong as hell too.

Defensively, his scouting reports say he was a willing defender and has active hands.

He'd fit right into what Masai is building here, and his strength could help us in the middle battling against bigger, stronger players that push our guys around.

Probably wouldn't cost anymore than what we're already paying Svi or Yuta to bring him over.

I’ve been pushing Naz Reid here. 6’9” with a 7’3” wingspan. About 255 lbs and shoots the 3. Stuck behind KAT on the Twolves. Minnesota not the greatest at development. Might be a diamond in the rough.
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Post#966 » by alpngso » Mon May 2, 2022 2:07 pm

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sule wrote:This may be out of left field, but I'd like the Raps to take a chance on Guerschon Yabusele.

PF. 6-8 w/ 7-1 wingspan. 26yrs old. Plays in Europe, and has been shooting the 3 really well (0.408 on 3.5 attempts). He looks strong as hell too.

Defensively, his scouting reports say he was a willing defender and has active hands.

He'd fit right into what Masai is building here, and his strength could help us in the middle battling against bigger, stronger players that push our guys around.

Probably wouldn't cost anymore than what we're already paying Svi or Yuta to bring him over.

I’ve been pushing Naz Reid here. 6’9” with a 7’3” wingspan. About 255 lbs and shoots the 3. Stuck behind KAT on the Twolves. Minnesota not the greatest at development. Might be a diamond in the rough.


Naz is decent big who has inside and outside game. not much of a defender or a rim protector. Pretty sure he made USA select team before as well
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Post#967 » by Oakvillehoops » Mon May 2, 2022 2:29 pm

Would love to bring Ross back off the bench. He was playing at a 6th man of the year level when Orlando was competitive. He’s been completely tossed aside in this rebuild phase. And he wants out.

Birch back to Orlando + some random young piece for Ross? I’d say Flynn but they don’t need any PGs
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Post#968 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon May 2, 2022 3:04 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:Many of you seem to be focused on the Utah Jazz, but what about the Denver Nuggets? Maybe they feel it is time to shake things up over there. Is it time to try to bring Jamal Murray home?

Will an FVV and Birch for Murray trade as the framework work? Salaries work according to the ESPN trade checker.


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Post#969 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon May 2, 2022 3:19 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Many of you seem to be focused on the Utah Jazz, but what about the Denver Nuggets? Maybe they feel it is time to shake things up over there. Is it time to try to bring Jamal Murray home?

Will an FVV and Birch for Murray trade as the framework work? Salaries work according to the ESPN trade checker.


I'm in.


At this point with a history of major injury I would rather have Dejounte than Jamal. San Antonio would covet Freddy more than Denver who would be invested in seeing how Jamal returns to form. We have to know though Bobby-Masai will not deal Fred during this contract.
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Post#970 » by StopitLeo » Mon May 2, 2022 3:59 pm

We need a centre with legit size but I don't like Gobert. His defense doesn't make up for his limited offensive skill, which is a huge liability in the playoffs.

Can we make a competitive offer for KAT? I know they made the playoffs but I wonder how confident Minnesota is that he'll re-sign after next year.
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Post#971 » by Psubs » Mon May 2, 2022 4:09 pm

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Raptorfan2012 wrote:Many of you seem to be focused on the Utah Jazz, but what about the Denver Nuggets? Maybe they feel it is time to shake things up over there. Is it time to try to bring Jamal Murray home?

Will an FVV and Birch for Murray trade as the framework work? Salaries work according to the ESPN trade checker.


I'm in.


At this point with a history of major injury I would rather have Dejounte than Jamal. San Antonio would covet Freddy more than Denver who would be invested in seeing how Jamal returns to form. We have to know though Bobby-Masai will not deal Fred during this contract.


Murray would be more available.

Dejounte is probably SA's most untouchable player right now. With Jokic's playmaking, FVV can focus on shooting open 3's.

FVV and Birch for Murray? Cousins is a free agent. Denver is in the luxury so this saves them over $7 million ($3.5 million difference).
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Post#972 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon May 2, 2022 4:12 pm

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sule wrote:This may be out of left field, but I'd like the Raps to take a chance on Guerschon Yabusele.

PF. 6-8 w/ 7-1 wingspan. 26yrs old. Plays in Europe, and has been shooting the 3 really well (0.408 on 3.5 attempts). He looks strong as hell too.

Defensively, his scouting reports say he was a willing defender and has active hands.

He'd fit right into what Masai is building here, and his strength could help us in the middle battling against bigger, stronger players that push our guys around.

Probably wouldn't cost anymore than what we're already paying Svi or Yuta to bring him over.

I’ve been pushing Naz Reid here. 6’9” with a 7’3” wingspan. About 255 lbs and shoots the 3. Stuck behind KAT on the Twolves. Minnesota not the greatest at development. Might be a diamond in the rough.


Naz is decent big who has inside and outside game. not much of a defender or a rim protector. Pretty sure he made USA select team before as well

This is the twolves were talking about. Just like with Trent sometimes players need to be ina better system. No reason to think he can’t get better in the raps team environment
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Post#973 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon May 2, 2022 4:39 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:Many of you seem to be focused on the Utah Jazz, but what about the Denver Nuggets? Maybe they feel it is time to shake things up over there. Is it time to try to bring Jamal Murray home?

Will an FVV and Birch for Murray trade as the framework work? Salaries work according to the ESPN trade checker.


I think the biggest challenge with moving FVV for anyone at the moment is the PO he has next summer;
Any team that adds his is walking into any potential deal knowing in a best case FVV is getting a significant raise in a season and worst case they risk losing him for nothing as a UFA.

Even with Murray's injury I would imagine that Denver likely places a fairly high premium on him given he is 25 and has three years left on his deal, whereas any team adding him likely wants to see what he looks like post injury before any major move.

A Healthy Murray would be a fantastic add to this team, but I am nervous about his recovery.
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Post#974 » by RapsFanInOhio » Mon May 2, 2022 4:39 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Luke Kennard would be a fantastic 6th man.

I don’t think they give him up.

Y'all have now followed the team long enough to know if you can't defend at a high-level, under Nurse ,then you can't play for us(rightfully so!)..more so without any rim&paint protection outside of 215lbs CB25 barely playing 20mins

That’s true, but Kennard would be bringing something that we don’t have which is shooting and scoring off the bench. The problem with those bench guys is that no one could shoot for a good chunk of the year - we looked a ton better when Precious got the green light to shoot and made shots. Kennard at least provides a scoring threat that you can bring on to hit shots. He’s not going to lead a bench unit himself but at least he can get a bucket.

He’s not a great defender by any means but he’s not the worst defender in the NBA and you’re not playing him starter minutes, so the impact is minimal defensively.
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Post#975 » by PhilBlackson » Mon May 2, 2022 4:46 pm

Three younger FAs I'd hope we target: Tyus Jones, Lu Dort and Jalen Smith.
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Post#976 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon May 2, 2022 5:19 pm

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:I’ve been pushing Naz Reid here. 6’9” with a 7’3” wingspan. About 255 lbs and shoots the 3. Stuck behind KAT on the Twolves. Minnesota not the greatest at development. Might be a diamond in the rough.


I like Reid.
His defense and play around the basket isn't going to set the world on fire but the kid is 22 and that may be something that could be developed? He is an okay 3T shooter and an alright rebounder so there is a foundation to build on.

The challenge is his team option next season for the Wolves is less than 2m (?)
This is one of those things where he may not be in the Wolves future plans but he is so cheap and fills a role for 15 - 20mpg that his value on the roster at that price may exceed what his value on the open market may be.
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Post#977 » by OakleyDokely » Mon May 2, 2022 5:22 pm

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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:I’ve been pushing Naz Reid here. 6’9” with a 7’3” wingspan. About 255 lbs and shoots the 3. Stuck behind KAT on the Twolves. Minnesota not the greatest at development. Might be a diamond in the rough.


I like Reid.
His defense and play around the basket isn't going to set the world on fire but the kid is 22 and that may be something that could be developed? He is an okay 3T shooter and an alright rebounder so there is a foundation to build on.

The challenge is his team option next season for the Wolves is less than 2m (?)
This is one of those things where he may not be in the Wolves future plans but he is so cheap and fills a role for 15 - 20mpg that his value on the roster at that price may exceed what his value on the open market may be.


ya, that's the problem with these type of guys, they're so cheap and productive that it doesn't make sense to trade them unless a team really overpays. It's like us with Precious. Unless a team really overpays, the Raps aren't trading a rotation big that makes 3M.
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Post#978 » by Madhouse » Mon May 2, 2022 6:30 pm

StopitLeo wrote:We need a centre with legit size but I don't like Gobert. His defense doesn't make up for his limited offensive skill, which is a huge liability in the playoffs.

Can we make a competitive offer for KAT? I know they made the playoffs but I wonder how confident Minnesota is that he'll re-sign after next year.


Not really realistic.

He is a 26 year old all NBA C.

We would have to give up the ROY.
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Post#979 » by Spida888 » Mon May 2, 2022 6:47 pm

I'm off the KAT train for now after his playoff performance. Makes silly mistakes and complains about every foul. He's got talent but not the smartest dude.

We would have to give up too much, more than KAT can give.
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Post#980 » by vulture » Mon May 2, 2022 7:14 pm

I'm a huge fan of John Butler and really think he's going to be a player in this league. He can do a bit of everything with his size (7'1), he can shoot it and guard on the perimeter. He's going to need an NBA strength training program, but I'm really high on him and I wonder if he will declare.



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