2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[agkagk]

PG is not the most important position right now and hasn't been for some time.

I don’t want to say you’re wrong, but you’re wrong.

Tell me how many teams have won a championship without an elite floor general? — not saying they average 20 and 10, but elite at running a team.

The answer is zero.

You said point guard has always been the most important position. Now you're saying elite floor general, which is quite different since that doesn't have to be a point guard.

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

[KL78192020]

I don’t want to say you’re wrong, but you’re wrong.

Tell me how many teams have won a championship without an elite floor general? — not saying they average 20 and 10, but elite at running a team.

The answer is zero.

You said point guard has always been the most important position. Now you're saying elite floor general, which is quite different since that doesn't have to be a point guard.

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

[agkagk]

You said point guard has always been the most important position. Now you're saying elite floor general, which is quite different since that doesn't have to be a point guard.

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Warned: Personal attack

[DangerZone13]

I wonder if Orlando might be interested in something like:

ORL in: GTJ, Birch
TOR in: Ross, Hampton, S&T Mo Bamba 10-12M

Orlando has Fultz, Anthony, and Suggs - so Hampton has a difficult path forward there. They're heavily invested in WCJ, and their talented rookie's brother did pretty well, so they may be comfortable letting Bamba walk. Bringing in a young guard like GTJ who seems like he will desire a team to take over, could find that and take some pressure off Suggs, and plugs in where Gary Harris and Ross fit this past year.

Toronto gets a streaky shooter for the bench to slightly mitigate GTJ's loss, R.J. Hampton is a big combo guard who I think Nurse would like. This also hinges on if Mo would want to come here, but a great organization with a clear role for him could be interesting.
Then we'd have the BAE to grab a bench shooter.

I really like GTJ, but gotta give to get - and Orlando could be a good situation for GTJ individually.

[Scottie4Bro]

FVV & #33 pick for S&T Nurkic and the #6 pick.

Portland commits to small ball and gets an elite backcourt they can build around for a deep playoff run. Raptors get the big C they need and pickup Sharpe to be their SG of the future.

[KL78192020]

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Derek Fisher? lol you're reaching you just proved yourself wrong. Yea had nothing to do with Kobe or Shaq, it was Derek Fisher that led them. Miami had another great Mario Chalmers at PG.

[KL78192020]

At the end of the day its top end talent that wins regardless of position.

[Bruin]

FVV & #33 pick for S&T Nurkic and the #6 pick.

Portland commits to small ball and gets an elite backcourt they can build around for a deep playoff run. Raptors get the big C they need and pickup Sharpe to be their SG of the future.

Fred is a bad fit next to Dame. He’s also not worth the 6th pick anyways

Pretty sure the only way we can get the Portland pick is using Pascal or maybe OG

[agkagk]

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Derek Fisher? lol you're reaching you just proved yourself wrong. Yea had nothing to do with Kobe or Shaq, it was Derek Fisher that led them. Miami had another great Mario Chalmers at PG.

Ya bud Derek freakin Fischer.

Being a good floor general goes beyond creating assists and making baskets

Something something something about being versatile and playing effectively in all facets of the game.

Perhaps we have very differing views on what leaders are made of, idk!

Maybe google kobe and Shaqs opinions of Derek Fischer.

[Mattatron]

You said point guard has always been the most important position. Now you're saying elite floor general, which is quite different since that doesn't have to be a point guard.

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

Nope, both of them can't create via half court offense

[sogood]

FVV & #33 pick for S&T Nurkic and the #6 pick.

Portland commits to small ball and gets an elite backcourt they can build around for a deep playoff run. Raptors get the big C they need and pickup Sharpe to be their SG of the future.

Holy delusion.

[Spates]

If all you can do is argue semantics than just stop trying.

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Any LeBron led team, the Warriors, the Spurs, Jordan's Bulls.

[agkagk]

it’s about creating for others, Siakam did a good job of that when FVV was out. He was a triple double threat, PG doesn’t mean anything. Barnes and Siakam can create for others.

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Any LeBron led team, the Warriors, the Spurs, Jordan's Bulls.

Lebron minus Kyrie or wade I’ll give you, I believe that would be one title.

Jordan was a de facto point guard and Paxton was no slouch, hell steve Kerr was a hell of a leader too.

Avery Johnson was a renowned leader; his nickname was “the little GENERAL” . Tony Parker’s a hall of farmer. What the deuce man.

Fred is an all star, before the injury, by definition, he’s a top 5 point guard and a proven big game player. One does not trade such an asset for bench players and late lottery picks aaaaaaand keep their job.

There are very few realistic scenarios where we trade Fred and aren’t significantly worse.

Wanna know why, because the point guard position is and has aaaaaaaallllways been the most important position in the game.

[DreamTeam09]

Does Birch + Flynn + Svi for Duncan Robinson work on trade checker?

[Bruin]

Does Birch + Flynn + Svi for Duncan Robinson work on trade checker?

Why would we willingly trade for one of the worst contracts in the league? He’s essentially Matt Thomas on a star player contract lol

[agkagk]

Does Birch + Flynn + Svi for Duncan Robinson work on trade checker?

Why would we willingly trade for one of the worst contracts in the league? He’s essentially Matt Thomas on a star player contract lol

Miami possibly has the deepest roster in the league. Dunno if this type of trade would work for them.

[KL78192020]

ok rewrite the narrative all you want -- in the history of the nba, name the championship team that didnt have an elite floor general as their point guard.

From lowry to kyrie irving to rajon rondo to derek freaking fisher....blah blah blah blah dumbasses.....

Any LeBron led team, the Warriors, the Spurs, Jordan's Bulls.

Lebron minus Kyrie or wade I’ll give you, I believe that would be one title.

Jordan was a de facto point guard and Paxton was no slouch, hell steve Kerr was a hell of a leader too.

Avery Johnson was a renowned leader; his nickname was “the little GENERAL” . Tony Parker’s a hall of farmer. What the deuce man.

Fred is an all star, before the injury, by definition, he’s a top 5 point guard and a proven big game player. One does not trade such an asset for bench players and late lottery picks aaaaaaand keep their job.

There are very few realistic scenarios where we trade Fred and aren’t significantly worse.

Wanna know why, because the point guard position is and has aaaaaaaallllways been the most important position in the game.

Teams with talent with lol. Lowry would be nothing without Kawhi/Siakam. Rondo would be nothing without KG/Allen/Pierce.

Shocking teams need to be talented in many positions to win not just PG.

[Tripod]

Fred is a top 5 PG?

That's what I just read?

[TheRaptor!]

Olapido looks good again

I’d give him a shot on the team

[wegotthabeet]

FVV & #33 pick for S&T Nurkic and the #6 pick.

Portland commits to small ball and gets an elite backcourt they can build around for a deep playoff run. Raptors get the big C they need and pickup Sharpe to be their SG of the future.

Fred is a bad fit next to Dame. He’s also not worth the 6th pick anyways

Pretty sure the only way we can get the Portland pick is using Pascal or maybe OG

Interesting. I have FVV's value at around the 8th or 9th pick in this draft. I agree he’s not worth the 6th pick, but the 11th pick seems light.

I wouldn't trade Siakam for the 6th pick in this draft. OG I probably wouldn't trade either.