Battier vs Posey vs Tucker

durantbird · Post #1 » by **durantbird** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:22 pm

How would you rank Shane Battier, James Posey and PJ Tucker in their peaks?

Jaivl · Post #2 » by **Jaivl** » Sat May 14, 2022 1:58 pm

I have peak Battier as very close to all-star level, so him.

Post #3 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:21 pm

Battier
small gap
Tucker
big gap
Posey

Post #4 » by **trex_8063** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:38 pm

For peaks, I'd go Battier > Posey > Tucker.

Battier is tops for full career rather comfortably, imo.

Post #5 » by **trex_8063** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:43 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Battier
small gap
Tucker
big gap
Posey

Why do you see a big gap between Tucker and Posey (with Tucker on top)? Do you feel he's that much better on defense?

Posey, at his peak, was a much better scorer. Tucker has struggled to scrape the bottom edge of league-average shooting efficiency, despite extremely small volume (usage during his prime roughly 9-14%) of mostly spot-up threes.

Posey was once actually the 2nd-leading scorer on a "by committee" 50-win team, and on good efficiency, too. He was actually on the same team as Battier that year, and appeared to be the more valuable of the two overall (though this was not Battier's peak).

falcolombardi · Post #6 » by **falcolombardi** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:46 pm

the one who was called the no stats all star

Post #7 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:57 pm

trex_8063 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Battier
small gap
Tucker
big gap
Posey

Why do you see a big gap between Tucker and Posey (with Tucker on top)? Do you feel he's that much better on defense?

Posey, at his peak, was a much better scorer. Tucker has struggled to scrape the bottom edge of league-average shooting efficiency, despite extremely small volume (usage during his prime roughly 9-14%) of mostly spot-up threes.

Posey was once actually the 2nd-leading scorer on a "by committee" 50-win team, and on good efficiency, too. He was actually on the same team as Battier that year, and appeared to be the more valuable of the two overall (though this was not Battier's peak).

Yeah I'm really really high on Tucker's defense. And while no doubt Posey's a more skilled offensive player, because Tucker mastered the corner 3 he's been able to stay on the court on some good offenses.

I just think of Battier and Tucker as real difference makers. Posey, just a good solid rotation wing. Valuable, just not nearly as valuable as those two. There is a reason the Bucks and Miami went to get Tucker when they felt like they had built a championship level core.

homecourtloss · Post #8 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat May 14, 2022 4:59 pm

I’d love to see prime Battier in today’s NBA environment in which he’d be even more effective. In 2012, he was +10 per 100 possessions with James and in 2013, +17 and +16 with James and with Wade. Incredible BBIQ, good length, excellent strength, one of the quickest reads on rotations, ability to hit open shots…would have loved to see him.

70sFan · Post #9 » by **70sFan** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:02 pm

Batter is clearly the best.

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #10 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Sat May 14, 2022 5:23 pm

Happy to have all 3 as key contributors to Heat teams

Battier
Tucker
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-
-
Posey

I value all 3 very highly