2022 NBA Draft Part II

TB · Post #421 » by TB » Wed May 18, 2022 10:18 pm

Seems like some winners from the athletic measurements (vert, shuttle, etc) are:

Chandler
Jalen Williams
Agbaji
Terq
Moore
Liddell
Roddy
Procida
Koloko

And some of these also had good size measurements.

As for Procida, when you watch his film, it sort of makes sense... he's got super high shoulders, long legs, and super fast in transition. He has some strange measurements but they do fit with his eye test.

CptCrunch · Post #422 » by **CptCrunch** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:25 pm

I feel this year is extra long. So many decent prospects with 7 feet wingspans.

Action shot of Mark Williams

clyde21 · Post #423 » by **clyde21** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:35 pm

jman3134 wrote:Paolo should not go top 5 in this draft.

in which draft should he go top 5?

Post #424 » by **jman3134** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:39 pm

clyde21 wrote:
jman3134 wrote:Paolo should not go top 5 in this draft.

in which draft should he go top 5?

2013

No disrespect to Paolo the player. He was great down the stretch for Duke. As a prospect, he is a low floor player with a limited ceiling imo.

clyde21 · Post #425 » by **clyde21** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:43 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Kofi Cockburn's 293 pounds at 8% bodyfat is sick lol.

I really wanted to see the top guys measurements. It's always those guys that don't want to get measured, and then also grow 3 inches in their first NBA Season :/

absolutely hate that the top guys don't participate in at least the measureables, should be mandatory.

clyde21 · Post #426 » by **clyde21** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:45 pm

jman3134 wrote:Measurement winners:
Mark Williams 7'2, 7'6 1/2'' wingspan, 9'9 standing reach (same as Rudy Gobert)
Jalen Williams 6'5 3/4'', 7'2 1/4'' wingspan, 8'9 1/2'' Standing Reach
Patrick Baldwin 6'10 1/4'', 7'1 3/4'' wingspan, 9'2 1/2'' standing reach
Walker Kessler 7'1, 7'4 1/4'' wingspan, 9'5 standing reach
Dominick Barlow 6'9 3/4'', 7'3 wingspan, 9'0 1/2'' standing reach
Iverson Molinar 6'3 1/4'', 6'8 wingspan, 8'5 standing reach
MarJon Beauchamp 6'6 1/2'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dalen Terry 6'7 1/4'', 7'0 3/4'' wingspan, 8'10 standing reach
Dyson Daniels 6'7 1/2'', 6'10 1/2'' wingspan, 8'9 standing reach

Eason

clyde21 · Post #427 » by **clyde21** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:46 pm

had Mark Williams 7th coming into the combine, gonna be hard to move him up more, but you have to? just absurd.

and lol @ anyone taking Duren over Williams at this point. to do what exactly?

clyde21 · Post #428 » by **clyde21** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:51 pm

id probably take Mark Williams over James Wiseman honestly if they were in the same draft, and Wiseman was seen as a top 3 in his draft (had him 10th myself).

tmorgan · Post #429 » by **tmorgan** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:55 pm

MotownMadness wrote:I like Williams more then Duren as well. Duren just gives me Drummond vibes for some reason lol

I can’t get a Drummond vibe off a player unless I get to interview them.

If all they talk about is their shoe collection, making friends, and typical player clichés, then i get a Drummond vibe. There are worse things to be than dumb. Oblivious to role and expectations is one of them. He’s a literal man-child.

CptCrunch · Post #430 » by **CptCrunch** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:00 pm

I called Ayton one of the dumbest players I've seen pre-draft.

It shows in his development and his choice to play video games until 5 AM in the morning resulting 2 hours of sleep.

Not stating Williams/Duren are smart/dumb, but mentality, intelligence, maturity matters a ton in this draft process.

You can draft coaches son (like AJ Griffin Jr) or draft kids who grew up in the hood bringing off-course issues into your franchise.

Post #431 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:00 pm

clyde21 wrote:had Mark Williams 7th coming into the combine, gonna be hard to move him up more, but you have to? just absurd.

and lol @ anyone taking Duren over Williams at this point. to do what exactly?

Ya I knew he was long, but you always have to be somewhat skeptical of the college measurements. Most colleges exaggerate their guys measurements by a good amount, and he's playing alongside and against college guys where you dont quite know how big they really are.

But today it coming out that not just his measurements weren't exaggerated, he's actually longer than Gobert. I mean a 2" standing reach advantage over Gobert is crazy. Like its hard to fathom it. And its not like he is built like Chet or even a young Gobert. He isnt some twig out there. Also throw in he has much better mobility than Gobert ever had, and its not just a "potential" thing either. The dude has elite timing and awareness on the defensive end. He was ACC DPOY and a top 4 finalist for NDPOY.

This guys is just screaming multiple All Defense teams in his career.

TB · Post #432 » by TB » Wed May 18, 2022 11:07 pm

clyde21 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Kofi Cockburn's 293 pounds at 8% bodyfat is sick lol.

I really wanted to see the top guys measurements. It's always those guys that don't want to get measured, and then also grow 3 inches in their first NBA Season :/

absolutely hate that the top guys don't participate in at least the measureables, should be mandatory.

This is my yearly fist shake at this absurdity. Everyone should absolutely have to test how big they are... makes no sense not to.

My other yearly gripe is not using barefoot height as the standard. Everyone going nuts on Mark Williams being 7'2 and ranking him against tallest dudes ever... yet he's not even the tallest guy in the draft. Kessler is 7'0.25 to Williams 7'0. Yet apparently Kessler wore Whitesides flip flops and Williams wore 2 inch lifts.

Again, I wouldn't draft someone based on that small difference, they are both tall... but its just funny hearing all the stuff on Williams being 7'2.

ibraheim718 · Post #433 » by **ibraheim718** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:07 pm

Am I the only guy who thinks Lofton Jr will be one of the better players in this draft?

EMG518 · Post #434 » by **EMG518** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:17 pm

Did I just read Mark Williams standing reach is 9'9", that can't be right.

Post #435 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:20 pm

TB wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Kofi Cockburn's 293 pounds at 8% bodyfat is sick lol.

I really wanted to see the top guys measurements. It's always those guys that don't want to get measured, and then also grow 3 inches in their first NBA Season :/

absolutely hate that the top guys don't participate in at least the measureables, should be mandatory.

This is my yearly fist shake at this absurdity. Everyone should absolutely have to test how big they are... makes no sense not to.

My other yearly gripe is not using barefoot height as the standard. Everyone going nuts on Mark Williams being 7'2 and ranking him against tallest dudes ever... yet he's not even the tallest guy in the draft. Kessler is 7'0.25 to Williams 7'0. Yet apparently Kessler wore Whitesides flip flops and Williams wore 2 inch lifts.

Again, I wouldn't draft someone based on that small difference, they are both tall... but its just funny hearing all the stuff on Williams being 7'2.

I dont think too many people are going all that nuts over Mark measuring 7'2 in shoes. Its more along the lines of him having a truly freakish standing reach of 9'9. The only guy to have a taller standing reach in like the last 20 years is Tacko Fall. So ya I think more people are going nuts about the standing reach, not the height in shoes (even though a legit 7' without shoes is huge).

Post #436 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:21 pm

EMG518 wrote:Did I just read Mark Williams standing reach is 9'9", that can't be right.

Yup a standing reach 2" taller than Rudy Gobert. He is in the true freak tier.

TB · Post #437 » by TB » Wed May 18, 2022 11:27 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
TB wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
absolutely hate that the top guys don't participate in at least the measureables, should be mandatory.

This is my yearly fist shake at this absurdity. Everyone should absolutely have to test how big they are... makes no sense not to.

My other yearly gripe is not using barefoot height as the standard. Everyone going nuts on Mark Williams being 7'2 and ranking him against tallest dudes ever... yet he's not even the tallest guy in the draft. Kessler is 7'0.25 to Williams 7'0. Yet apparently Kessler wore Whitesides flip flops and Williams wore 2 inch lifts.

Again, I wouldn't draft someone based on that small difference, they are both tall... but its just funny hearing all the stuff on Williams being 7'2.

I dont think too many people are going all that nuts over Mark measuring 7'2 in shoes. Its more along the lines of him having a truly freakish standing reach of 9'9. The only guy to have a taller standing reach in like the last 20 years is Tacko Fall. So ya I think more people are going nuts about the standing reach, not the height in shoes (even though a legit 7' without shoes is huge).

Ya that standing reach is insane.

I just really want to see the shoes Kessler and Williams wore. And its silly how now sites will have Williams at 7'2 and Kessler at 7'1. Again, this is not a big deal just a pet peeve of mine :lol:

Post #438 » by **Marcus** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:27 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:Did I just read Mark Williams standing reach is 9'9", that can't be right.

Yup a standing reach 2" taller than Rudy Gobert. He is in the true freak tier.

underrated in sooooo many ways in general. Williams is going to be a high quality big in the league.

Post #439 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:30 pm

So is AJ Griffin not going to at least do measurements? That seems like a weird choice to me. I get maybe not doing the athletic testing, but I would think he would do physical measurements because he should come away looking great after those.

Post #440 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:31 pm

Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:Did I just read Mark Williams standing reach is 9'9", that can't be right.

Yup a standing reach 2" taller than Rudy Gobert. He is in the true freak tier.

underrated in sooooo many ways in general. Williams is going to be a high quality big in the league.

I dont think he will be underrated for too long. I think he most likely ends up being a top 10 pick.