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Re: PG: Heat vs Celtics Game 7 (Thanks for the memories brehs) 

Post#221 » by Wiltside » Mon May 30, 2022 7:06 am

Slot Machine wrote:Pretty complicated end of the season fellas. To be honest, I went into this season thinking that making the ECF would be a success and I still feel that we overachieved to make it this far. I really didn’t like our off-season and didn’t think we were that close to a title but damn, we came pretty close to making it to the Finals. So on that hand, it’s hard to consider this season a failure and hard to be disappointed with the results. What’s crazy is the team didn’t even play that well in the postseason (shooters were MIA for most of the playoffs) and we still took it this far. That being said, it’s never not disappointing missing out on making the Finals when you’re this close.

Butler playing like a top 5 player was amazing to see and it bums me out that we probably never see him play at this level again. Would really love to see him win a ring as a Heat player, but this is probably the run it should have happened if it was going to.

Interesting summer ahead of us.


I didn't think we'd see Jimmy play as good as he did in the Bubble ever again. I was wrong. Jimmy can still get it done, but he needs another scorer to take pressure off. We really missed (the good, healthy version) of Herro, as he has been our safety valve when Jimmy hasn't had it. Unfortunately, he was hurt and couldn't give us anything.

We were so close. And we will be good again next year. But we can't be complacent if we truly want to hang with the big boys. Bold moves are needed - Riley will go hunting, it's what he does. Didn't hesitate to trade Eddie Jones to get in JWill/Antoine Walker/James Posey. He'll do it again.
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Re: PG: Heat vs Celtics Game 7 (Thanks for the memories brehs) 

Post#222 » by Heat_Down_Under » Mon May 30, 2022 7:30 am

To be honest this was our best chance… we had the easiest bracket… Celtics got lucky tho in a tough bracket with no Simmons, no Middleton, butler and our team banged up.. if Payton jnr is back for warriors they face their first opposition at full strength.. unless u count wiseman as a loss…will be hard for us to get back to where we are unless we make a major signing.. especially with all those east teams I mentioned earlier full strength..
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Post#223 » by iamoti » Mon May 30, 2022 7:43 am

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iamoti wrote:Some of the reactions here are absolutely terrible. We were 1 shot away from making the finals with a team so banged up they could barely walk. Stop with the overreactions. We made the ECF and got to game 7 and had a chance to win. That's better than 27 other teams. Our team has flaws yes but our young guys can still grow. I have faith in Tyler to take another step forward. His playoffs performance will only motivate him more. If healthy I fully expect to be back to the ECF. We lost a good chance but let's be honest we would have gotten crushed by the Warriors with our current health. let's take the positives from this season. Nr 1 seed. ECF. That's a good season overall.

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You say this as if Boston, Milwaukee and Philly were healthy themselves. Embiid played with a broken face, a swollen eye, and a torn ligament in his shooting thumb while he missed games. Bucks were missing their second best player. Boston had their best defenders, one of which a dpoy, in and out of the lineup and Tatum with a messed up shoulder and Jaylen with his hamstrings jammed up.

We had a completely healthy max player and he only showed up for two of the seven games this series. Tyler has been ass the ENTIRE playoffs and was hunted on defense like Duncan. Jimmy is not young, Kyle is not young, PJ is not young, we don't have time to wait for Tyler to grow. We have $90 million just rotting on the bench because he can't do his one **** job that he's been overpaid to do. We need better players on this roster. Our overreliance on these scrubs to show up when we needed them most was too much pressure for them to do every night. We need talent. We cannot win with just Jimmy showing up on a nightly basis, there needs to be another star on offense and that hasn't been Bam and we can't expect that from Tyler any time soon.


Boston was healthy enough. They werent missing some key piece. Brown and Tatum were 100% and thats most of their offense anyway. We were missing Tyler which is a lot to an already not so talented offensive team. The growth of Tyler with one offseason makes me hopeful he can still grow. Also if we retain Oladipo i'm sure a full season will do wonders for his offense. Bam is still a mistery and he will probably never grow to his potential. It sucks we missed the shot with Jimmy playing like this but i still think he can replicate this performance for 1-2 more years.

Our major roster problem is Duncan who is unplayable and we probably need to pair him with some other asset to get something in return. We can't dump his salary because his 19m are valuable in a possible trade. No one is taking Lowry's 30m and Jimmy will never agree to such a trade. Maybe a Duncan + Strus or Vincent + 1st round pick will get us something solid in return. I'm not ready to give up Tyler. I think another offseason will make a difference. He will bounce back. And its not like there's a whale out there who can get us over. Duncan + Tyler + 1st pick wont get us Lillard.
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Post#224 » by Wiltside » Mon May 30, 2022 7:45 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:To be honest this was our best chance… we had the easiest bracket… Celtics got lucky tho in a tough bracket with no Simmons, no Middleton, butler and our team banged up.. if Payton jnr is back for warriors they face their first opposition at full strength.. unless u count wiseman as a loss…will be hard for us to get back to where we are unless we make a major signing.. especially with all those east teams I mentioned earlier full strength..


It's true, but things can change quickly in the NBA. The Nets were supposed to be a juggernaut and got bounced in the first round. There are never any guarantees, all we can do is put ourselves in a position to compete and be healthy at the business end of the season. I doubt anyone picked GWS v BOS as the NBA Finals this season. Anything can happen.

It's Riley's job to work through what we need and how to get it, then it's Spo's job to figure out how to implement it.

If we can't find a 4 that fits alongside Bam, I'm getting Yurt working on his pick and pop game to be a threat from deep and sliding Bam to the 4.
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Re: PG: Heat vs Celtics Game 7 (Thanks for the memories brehs) 

Post#225 » by BaffLer » Mon May 30, 2022 7:49 am

Those **** 1st quarter starts man. That's one of the biggest things that bothered me throughout the series. Every. Freaking. Time at home we're playing from behind. There's just no way you should be playing catch up with the Celtics.
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Post#226 » by Heat_Down_Under » Mon May 30, 2022 7:56 am

I’m just shaking my head because we have the deepest bench in the league.. and spo didn’t know how to use it properly..
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Post#227 » by iamoti » Mon May 30, 2022 7:57 am

BaffLer wrote:Those **** 1st quarter starts man. That's one of the biggest things that bothered me throughout the series. Every. Freaking. Time at home we're playing from behind. There's just no way you should be playing catch up with the Celtics.


100% , not enough offense to play from behind like this. Outside of the 1st quarter we didnt play bad.

To think that if Jimmy hits that shot we would be celebrating now instead of working trade scenarios. It's crazy.
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Post#228 » by iamoti » Mon May 30, 2022 7:58 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:I’m just shaking my head because we have the deepest bench in the league.. and spo didn’t know how to use it properly..


It was mostly Tyler and he didnt show up/got injured.
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Post#229 » by Wiltside » Mon May 30, 2022 8:07 am

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BaffLer wrote:Those **** 1st quarter starts man. That's one of the biggest things that bothered me throughout the series. Every. Freaking. Time at home we're playing from behind. There's just no way you should be playing catch up with the Celtics.


100% , not enough offense to play from behind like this. Outside of the 1st quarter we didnt play bad.

To think that if Jimmy hits that shot we would be celebrating now instead of working trade scenarios. It's crazy.


Sliding doors moment for sure. I feel so depressed now.
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Post#230 » by HeatFanLifer » Mon May 30, 2022 8:23 am

According to goldpricez.com, 215 lbs of gold currently goes for about $6.3 million. Drob’s salary is worth 3x his weight in gold PER YEAR. This stupid worthless piece of chalm is making more money than probably everyone on this forum combined and he can’t even win the trust of the coach to play 1 minute in the final game of the season.
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Post#231 » by Wiltside » Mon May 30, 2022 8:24 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:According to goldpricez.com, 215 lbs of gold currently goes for about $6.3 million. Drob’s salary is worth 3x his weight in gold PER YEAR. This stupid worthless piece of chalm is making more money than probably everyone on this forum combined and he can’t even win the trust of the coach to play 1 minute in the final game of the season.


Brutal contract for sure. He’ll have a market out there though. But it’s damning that a team that needs spacing as bad as us couldn’t afford to have him on the court.
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Post#232 » by marson » Mon May 30, 2022 8:48 am

Drob's unplayable for that series. Jaylen and Jayson would each have 40 both if he was starting and playing significant minutes lol.

Credit to Spo for benching this dude lol.
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Post#233 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon May 30, 2022 10:23 am

Question about Duncan:

Is he unplayable because for whatever reason he was kinda slumping the whole year or is he just unplayable? In other words, let's say that next year Duncan averages his career average of 13 ppg on 43% or better, is he still unplayable? The point im trying to make is that he has the whole summer to get his shots up and work on his game, so that next year he can maybe come back and be efficient again. Maybe waiting for him to get his trade value up is better than just taking scraps for him.
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Post#234 » by Hallstar » Mon May 30, 2022 11:17 am

contract wrote:Now that small ball has been proven to be a failure and Spo exposed as a head coach ... can someone tell me which teams made the Finals and who their twin towers are? I want to know who we should be emulating.

We were the smallest team left in the playoffs. There's being switchable and there's starting PJ Tucker next to Bam
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Post#235 » by marson » Mon May 30, 2022 11:38 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:Question about Duncan:

Is he unplayable because for whatever reason he was kinda slumping the whole year or is he just unplayable? In other words, let's say that next year Duncan averages his career average of 13 ppg on 43% or better, is he still unplayable? The point im trying to make is that he has the whole summer to get his shots up and work on his game, so that next year he can maybe come back and be efficient again. Maybe waiting for him to get his trade value up is better than just taking scraps for him.


He is unplayable because he does not have the physical tools to be at least an average defender. Even if he shot the ball on his averages this series, he would still get exposed by the Celtic's wings and put him in foul trouble.

We gotta trade him asap since I'm not seeing him as an improved defender from here on out. Feels like he averages like a foul a minute when he is on the floor this series :lol:
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Post#236 » by Tony15 » Mon May 30, 2022 11:58 am

Boston was always the better team to me. I said Heat in 7 regardless, because I felt matchup wise we had more than enough shooting and I expected Bam/Herro to have a bigger impact. Neither of these things happened, so here we are.

This team exceeded my expectations, so I have little complaints about the season overall, but I hope this series showed the FO that small ball just isn't the way to go if you don't have Steph/Klay/Dray.

We need another star, and we need to get bigger in the front court. No more small ball. I'm checking out if we run this back again.

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Post#237 » by Dc__20 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:02 pm

Devastating. What a great season by the heat though. I just hope it’s not fools gold like the James Johnson year. This team needs to consolidate. You can talk small ball and all that but the major difference in this series is Boston has two dudes that can get their own easily in transition. The regular season flow doesn’t work in the playoffs. I’m all for trading drob and Tyler for someone who can get their own easily in the half court and transition
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Post#238 » by 3ballbomber » Mon May 30, 2022 12:10 pm

How sh*t are Boston they needed 7 games to beat a hobbled & depleted, 1 man team w/ the refs help :lol:
How did it take them 7 games to beat the smallest team left in the PO's, who won just 10 out of 28 quarters, comprised of undrafted no namers, w/ no All-NBA Team selections, w/ the only player to win a league award out for majority of the series, while shooting 54 more Ft's than them :lol:
& their 2 superstars were 100% healthy :lol:
WTF is wrong w/ that team!?


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Now that I got that out of my system Congrats to Celtics lol. They're going to get beaten by the Warriors anyway so enjoy this while you can :D

That says a lot about our team, not just in the Playoffs but the entire season. Playoffs just exemplified further the character & qualities we displayed to be able to persevere & achieve the things we were ale to accomplish. It's what made the media so maddening - they completely dismissed all our achievements in spite of all the set backs. Yes we didn't have the sexiest team w/the lack of superstars but you got to recognise & respect how we were able to accomplish great things w/far less! That's what I admire about this team. They were even debating wether Jimmy was a legit superstar before he made them STFU w/ a virtuoso masterclass performnce in gm6. I have a deep respect, pride & adoration for our squad. I have really enjoyed the journey this season. Understand we were never legit contenders/Championship team. We just fought like hell to get this far. Godamn F*ckin' DOGS! One more piece & it's us heading to battle GSW.

Before I end this Riles needs to do all he can to get Jimmy a ring. He deserves it for the blood, sweat & tears he has given this organisation. It's time to go all in...

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Post#239 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Mon May 30, 2022 12:49 pm

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Slot Machine wrote:Pretty complicated end of the season fellas. To be honest, I went into this season thinking that making the ECF would be a success and I still feel that we overachieved to make it this far. I really didn’t like our off-season and didn’t think we were that close to a title but damn, we came pretty close to making it to the Finals. So on that hand, it’s hard to consider this season a failure and hard to be disappointed with the results. What’s crazy is the team didn’t even play that well in the postseason (shooters were MIA for most of the playoffs) and we still took it this far. That being said, it’s never not disappointing missing out on making the Finals when you’re this close.

Butler playing like a top 5 player was amazing to see and it bums me out that we probably never see him play at this level again. Would really love to see him win a ring as a Heat player, but this is probably the run it should have happened if it was going to.

Interesting summer ahead of us.


I didn't think we'd see Jimmy play as good as he did in the Bubble ever again. I was wrong. Jimmy can still get it done, but he needs another scorer to take pressure off. We really missed (the good, healthy version) of Herro, as he has been our safety valve when Jimmy hasn't had it. Unfortunately, he was hurt and couldn't give us anything.

We were so close. And we will be good again next year. But we can't be complacent if we truly want to hang with the big boys. Bold moves are needed - Riley will go hunting, it's what he does. Didn't hesitate to trade Eddie Jones to get in JWill/Antoine Walker/James Posey. He'll do it again.


eh, to be fair, it was Shaq who hated Eddie Jones and thought he was a scrub in playoff games. Wasn't hard for Riley to trade EJ due to that.

Lowry on the other hand...
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Post#240 » by Vertical Limit » Mon May 30, 2022 1:02 pm

BaffLer wrote:Those **** 1st quarter starts man. That's one of the biggest things that bothered me throughout the series. Every. Freaking. Time at home we're playing from behind. There's just no way you should be playing catch up with the Celtics.

Those **** first quarter starts and our bench points is an illustration of whats bad about our team.. we went in the game basically a 7 man line up, spo couldnt trust herro being productive today nor trust he can hold his own defensively. Outside of Jimmy we have no one who can create their own shot and keep us balanced offensively.

Its why its time to make bold moves in the offseason.

We have too many one dimensional specialists, not enough special players. Clearly we can pick up specialists off the streets, just look at our roster and all them undrafted players.. we got to game 7 with them..
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