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Post#61 » by Tottery » Tue May 31, 2022 5:49 am

I didn't click on all the Ainge threads because I thought they were new from salty people. Turns out it was bumps lol. Ainge clearly knows what he is doing. Fans be fans.
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Post#62 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 31, 2022 5:51 am

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LordCovington33 wrote:The majority said the Jaylen Brown deal was bad? Unless proof, I call BS. That was a great deal at the time.

Yeah that one made me say "Huh?". Pretty sure most people thought it was a great contract at the time and that Brown would have gotten way more had he been an RFA.


He's right. Majority of this board thought it was an overpay at the time.
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Post#63 » by Reeko » Tue May 31, 2022 6:04 am

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Reeko wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:The majority said the Jaylen Brown deal was bad? Unless proof, I call BS. That was a great deal at the time.

Yeah that one made me say "Huh?". Pretty sure most people thought it was a great contract at the time and that Brown would have gotten way more had he been an RFA.


He's right. Majority of this board thought it was an overpay at the time.

Maybe right when it was signed, but that didn't last too long once the season got underway.
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Post#64 » by FrodoFraggins » Tue May 31, 2022 6:05 am

hugepatsfan wrote:I always felt the whole "war chest" thing was over exaggerated. They had a lot of picks. They didn't have a lot of good picks.


Ainge held on to some picks in hopes they'd turn out great and they ended up not. I remember people drooling over the Memphis and Sac picks. I personally think he was deathly afraid of losing trades and so he held on to them. And once he drafted guys he took forever to accept that some were busts even though Brad was probably trying to convince him.
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Post#65 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 31, 2022 6:14 am

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hugepatsfan wrote:I always felt the whole "war chest" thing was over exaggerated. They had a lot of picks. They didn't have a lot of good picks.


Ainge held on to some picks in hopes they'd turn out great and they ended up not. I remember people drooling over the Memphis and Sac picks. I personally think he was deathly afraid of losing trades and so he held on to them. And once he drafted guys he took forever to accept that some were busts even though Brad was probably trying to convince him.


Yeh those picks could've been way better. Unfortunately, Memphis lucked into Ja the year before and the Kings had a one year jump, somehow going 39-43 after only having 27 wins the year before and then 31 wins the year after.

Instead of Romeo Langford and Aaron Nesmith, it could've very easily been Tyler Herro and Tyrese Haliburton (who I was praying the Celtics would move up for).
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Post#66 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 31, 2022 6:18 am

Reeko wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
Reeko wrote:Yeah that one made me say "Huh?". Pretty sure most people thought it was a great contract at the time and that Brown would have gotten way more had he been an RFA.


He's right. Majority of this board thought it was an overpay at the time.

Maybe right when it was signed, but that didn't last too long once the season got underway.


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1899006&p=78879924&hilit=brown#p78879924

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71% bad for Boston

*Edit. It was actually at 78% for bad for Boston but it was bumped last year so went down to 71%. Just go read the first 3-4 pages
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Post#67 » by Darthlukey » Tue May 31, 2022 6:34 am

KodiakBear wrote:Lebron beat Ainge a few times. Go Lebron!

Ainge had the salary cap and tampering limitations, bron has made it abundantly clear those things, particularly tampering, aren't an issue for him
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Post#68 » by robbie84 » Tue May 31, 2022 7:25 am

AussieCeltic wrote:
Reeko wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
He's right. Majority of this board thought it was an overpay at the time.

Maybe right when it was signed, but that didn't last too long once the season got underway.


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1899006&p=78879924&hilit=brown#p78879924

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Poll results

71% bad for Boston

*Edit. It was actually at 78% for bad for Boston but it was bumped last year so went down to 71%. Just go read the first 3-4 pages



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Post#69 » by WestGOAT » Tue May 31, 2022 7:40 am

What about his obsession with Winslow? Do they still make the finals this year if he drafted away all those 1st round picks?

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Post#70 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue May 31, 2022 7:46 am

Ainge is one of the elite GMs in the NBA, and has been for quite a while.

He executes his plans very well. He's bold when he needs to be, and manages to find value on the fringes as well. Couples misses of course, but no one this side of Red is perfect.
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Post#71 » by jfs1000d » Tue May 31, 2022 7:51 am

Dr Aki wrote:OP just setting himself up for some humble pie in a week

Why? Outside of Horford, every other player on the roster is under 30.

This is gonna be a long run for the Celtics. Probably another decade of elite play.


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Post#72 » by dhsilv2 » Tue May 31, 2022 8:13 am

Dr Aki wrote:
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Dr Aki wrote:OP just setting himself up for some humble pie in a week


I stated we hadn't won anything yet. Only people needing humble pie are the Ainge mockers. I haven't said anything except Ainge deserves credit/respect for his good work instead of RealGM sh$%*ng on him forever.


Yep better take your victory lap now before you can't anymore


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Post#73 » by antonac » Tue May 31, 2022 8:28 am

I mean, regardless of what anyone says, finessing Philly and ending up with Tatum (I think it's also worth remembering Bender was the consensus #3 that year, not Tatum) was the best draft move in the last decade.
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Post#74 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue May 31, 2022 8:34 am

LordCovington33 wrote:The majority said the Jaylen Brown deal was bad? Unless proof, I call BS. That was a great deal at the time.


Picking Brown at three was generally considered a slight reach. He was most commonly mocked around number 7.

Picking 3 in that draft, and 1 the year after, very few people would have seen us coming out of it with either Tatum or Brown, much less both.

[Edit] Sorry, realise you're talking about the contract extension. Opinions on that were mixed, I saw it as solid, but not everyone agreed.[/edit]
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Post#75 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue May 31, 2022 8:35 am

antonac wrote:I mean, regardless of what anyone says, finessing Philly and ending up with Tatum (I think it's also worth remembering Bender was the consensus #3 that year, not Tatum) was the best draft move in the last decade.


Bender was the Brown draft (2016).

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/version-v--the-vertical-s-2016-nba-mock-draft-235403807.html
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Post#76 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue May 31, 2022 8:43 am

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hugepatsfan wrote:I always felt the whole "war chest" thing was over exaggerated. They had a lot of picks. They didn't have a lot of good picks.


Ainge held on to some picks in hopes they'd turn out great and they ended up not. I remember people drooling over the Memphis and Sac picks. I personally think he was deathly afraid of losing trades and so he held on to them. And once he drafted guys he took forever to accept that some were busts even though Brad was probably trying to convince him.


I never saw him as being afraid of losing trades. I saw it more that he was convinced we needed a superstar, and he was saving his ammo for that. Felt like we were forever waiting for KD to sign, or for Kyrie to help recruit AD or something.

In the end, that didn't work, and the picks were of less value than we might have hoped, in and of themselves.

Kinda got forced down the homegrown route. So I don't give him much credit for choosing this path, but I do give him credit for Brown and Tatum in particular, plus Smart, Williams, Williams, etc, as others have mentioned.
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Post#77 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 31, 2022 10:16 am

LordCovington33 wrote:The majority said the Jaylen Brown deal was bad? Unless proof, I call BS. That was a great deal at the time.


I have COVID so I’m isolating away from my family and have a **** ton of spare time. I was reading the Jaylen Brown extension thread and not only did you post in it, you didn’t like the extension.

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Getting paid way more than they are worth motivates a player to have a big year? Wasn’t that the logic behind offering Wiggins an albatross? I can understand a player’s free agency could become a big talking point if the player is an All Star or a likely one (e.g. Tatum), but we are talking about Jaylen Brown. There has also been talk about the Hawks having interest in him, but they just used two top 10 draft picks on wings. Who else was targeting him at the price he is supposedly commanding?
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Post#79 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue May 31, 2022 11:30 am

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Post#80 » by Basileus777 » Tue May 31, 2022 11:40 am

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