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Post#261 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 2:16 pm

Old Man Game wrote:I'm open to Sochan but he's like a 30% 3 point shooter. Oof. That said these pros seem to be getting a bit better at developing non-shooters into shooters.

Gosh for a defensive specialist this guy fouls too much.

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/6/1/23148877/2022-nba-draft-prospect-profiles-jeremy-sochan-memphis-grizzlies-baylor-bears

I like his tape though. Shot doesn't look completely broken.


yeah he wouldn't be top 10-12 in most mock drafts if he had Roberson mechanic. Still a gamble to draft him though and legit concern for OKC since we need to surround Giddey/SGA with good 3 pt shooters.
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Post#262 » by Old Man Game » Sat Jun 4, 2022 2:30 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:I'm open to Sochan but he's like a 30% 3 point shooter. Oof. That said these pros seem to be getting a bit better at developing non-shooters into shooters.

Gosh for a defensive specialist this guy fouls too much.

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/6/1/23148877/2022-nba-draft-prospect-profiles-jeremy-sochan-memphis-grizzlies-baylor-bears

I like his tape though. Shot doesn't look completely broken.


yeah he wouldn't be top 10-12 in most mock drafts if he had Roberson mechanic. Still a gamble to draft him though and legit concern for OKC since we need to surround Giddey/SGA with good 3 pt shooters.


That's what Chet's for. :wink:
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Post#263 » by Old Man Game » Sat Jun 4, 2022 2:33 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I really can’t say if someone I’ve never heard speak before is exaggerating. He’s was also on D2D and emphasized he has no insight in what the thunder will do. For two local small podcasts, it was nice to hear a new voice.

As far as Ivey, he didn’t really convince me but did make me go back and watch more tape. I definitely see the appeal of Ivey. I wouldn’t say I’m convinced to draft any player off of highlights but it’s hard to deny that he’s got some impressive skills. The hard work ethic is appealing too. Even though a shooting guard isn’t the biggest need, we could use some athleticism.


Maybe I shouldn't say exaggerating per se. I just found it odd that a scout who actually works for/consults with NBA teams would go on the record on a low rate podcast. I don't think I've seen scouts go on the record with anything before. Maybe this is the way its going to be from now on and he's totally on the level. I just found it unusual.
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Post#264 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 2:38 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:I'm open to Sochan but he's like a 30% 3 point shooter. Oof. That said these pros seem to be getting a bit better at developing non-shooters into shooters.

Gosh for a defensive specialist this guy fouls too much.

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2022/6/1/23148877/2022-nba-draft-prospect-profiles-jeremy-sochan-memphis-grizzlies-baylor-bears

I like his tape though. Shot doesn't look completely broken.


yeah he wouldn't be top 10-12 in most mock drafts if he had Roberson mechanic. Still a gamble to draft him though and legit concern for OKC since we need to surround Giddey/SGA with good 3 pt shooters.


That's what Chet's for. :wink:


Pretty much. A Chet/Sochan duo is very intriguing though because of Sochan versatility on defense. We could easily have the best frontcourt defense in the NBA so I still think it's a nice pick IF we get Chet but the concern is legit.
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Post#265 » by Old Man Game » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:18 pm

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yeah he wouldn't be top 10-12 in most mock drafts if he had Roberson mechanic. Still a gamble to draft him though and legit concern for OKC since we need to surround Giddey/SGA with good 3 pt shooters.


That's what Chet's for. :wink:


Pretty much. A Chet/Sochan duo is very intriguing though because of Sochan versatility on defense. We could easily have the best frontcourt defense in the NBA so I still think it's a nice pick IF we get Chet but the concern is legit.


Are you all thinking Chet won't be there? I thought the general wisdom is that Orlando wanted Jabari?
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Post#266 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:29 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
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That's what Chet's for. :wink:


Pretty much. A Chet/Sochan duo is very intriguing though because of Sochan versatility on defense. We could easily have the best frontcourt defense in the NBA so I still think it's a nice pick IF we get Chet but the concern is legit.


Are you all thinking Chet won't be there? I thought the general wisdom is that Orlando wanted Jabari?


Looks like it's gonna be Jabari for Orlando but still almost 3 weeks to go and we don't know for sure what Orlando FO is thinking. Odds of Chet being available at #2 are pretty good but far from being a lock.
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Post#267 » by Old Man Game » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:40 pm

You all have read more than me on draft from what I sense. That said I feel like I see a lot more stuff saying the thunder will just pass on Chet versus he won't there.
I found that Jake Fischer on Topic Thunder podcast yesterday saying he thinks it'll be Banchero based on the same methodology he used to arrive at realizing Giddey was the pick last year. (Basically smoke about about everyone except for Giddey led him to realize sort of late in the process that the thunder were intentionally leaking smokescreens)
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Post#268 » by retrobro90 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:08 pm

Old Man Game wrote:You all have read more than me on draft from what I sense. That said I feel like I see a lot more stuff saying the thunder will just pass on Chet versus he won't there.
I found that Jake Fischer on Topic Thunder podcast yesterday saying he thinks it'll be Banchero based on the same methodology he used to arrive at realizing Giddey was the pick last year. (Basically smoke about about everyone except for Giddey led him to realize sort of late in the process that the thunder were intentionally leaking smokescreens)


I'm not sure Fischer was stating he thinks it will be Banchero for OKC based on the lack of noise but he was answering a common question which is "Why does Paolo seem to be absent from top 2 discussions?" with a logical answer surrounding OKCs close to the vest approach.

That said I'd be elated with Paolo. There's not a choice in the top 3 that would upset me (outside of Ivey) but Paolo is #1 on my big board.
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Post#269 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:20 pm

Regardless of who they pick, we’ll all be fangirls if he balls out in summer league.
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Post#270 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:46 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:You all have read more than me on draft from what I sense. That said I feel like I see a lot more stuff saying the thunder will just pass on Chet versus he won't there.
I found that Jake Fischer on Topic Thunder podcast yesterday saying he thinks it'll be Banchero based on the same methodology he used to arrive at realizing Giddey was the pick last year. (Basically smoke about about everyone except for Giddey led him to realize sort of late in the process that the thunder were intentionally leaking smokescreens)


I'm not sure Fischer was stating he thinks it will be Banchero for OKC based on the lack of noise but he was answering a common question which is "Why does Paolo seem to be absent from top 2 discussions?" with a logical answer surrounding OKCs close to the vest approach.

That said I'd be elated with Paolo. There's not a choice in the top 3 that would upset me (outside of Ivey) but Paolo is #1 on my big board.


Jake Fischer knows how much as I do:
- They could want Banchero because they don't speak about him
- They could get the 4th by trading Shai to Sacramento
- They can try to move up to 7 or 8 but it's not easy because they don't have the right player those teams want (need a package of picks)
- Rumor of trading up to get Sochan could be a smokescreen or a true rumor, we don't know
- OKC like Kenrich
- OKC may have told Caleb Houstan they will draft him at #30.

This is a reporter basically just saying common sense stuff without breaking any serious news. If you follow the NBA you know those informations and can say that it may or may not happen. I have no idea how he got so many followers.

He also said he felt OKC was gonna pick Giddey 1 or 2 days before the draft, so weird he didn't post anything about it :lol:
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Post#271 » by Old Man Game » Sat Jun 4, 2022 7:55 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:You all have read more than me on draft from what I sense. That said I feel like I see a lot more stuff saying the thunder will just pass on Chet versus he won't there.
I found that Jake Fischer on Topic Thunder podcast yesterday saying he thinks it'll be Banchero based on the same methodology he used to arrive at realizing Giddey was the pick last year. (Basically smoke about about everyone except for Giddey led him to realize sort of late in the process that the thunder were intentionally leaking smokescreens)


I'm not sure Fischer was stating he thinks it will be Banchero for OKC based on the lack of noise but he was answering a common question which is "Why does Paolo seem to be absent from top 2 discussions?" with a logical answer surrounding OKCs close to the vest approach.

That said I'd be elated with Paolo. There's not a choice in the top 3 that would upset me (outside of Ivey) but Paolo is #1 on my big board.


I guess one could split hairs over this. I listened to it and definitely heard him say (words to the effect of) 'so based on that same methodology this year the guy would be Paolo' leading the listener to naturally conclude he's implying it would be Paolo.
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Post#272 » by Devilanche » Sun Jun 5, 2022 3:21 am

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He also said he felt OKC was gonna pick Giddey 1 or 2 days before the draft, so weird he didn't post anything about it :lol:

Surprised he didn’t report that one .
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Post#273 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jun 5, 2022 10:47 am

I do you think that Paulo Banchero makes sense in one regard I heard the other day that he was like the number one player in high school by the time he was in 10th grade and has been #1 at basically every stage since.

If you look at Prestis draft history you'll see several instances where he seems to default to guys who were elite in high school. Ferguson, Perry Jones, Bazley all having been elite high school prospects.

Now obviously picking second is a lot different than picking back half of the first where those guys were selected. Still it's enough for me to believe it would make sense if Paolo is the guy.
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Post#274 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 5, 2022 7:23 pm

Old Man Game wrote:I do you think that Paulo Banchero makes sense in one regard I heard the other day that he was like the number one player in high school by the time he was in 10th grade and has been #1 at basically every stage since.

If you look at Prestis draft history you'll see several instances where he seems to default to guys who were elite in high school. Ferguson, Perry Jones, Bazley all having been elite high school prospects.

Now obviously picking second is a lot different than picking back half of the first where those guys were selected. Still it's enough for me to believe it would make sense if Paolo is the guy.

I’m fine with Paulo if he’s amicable to being in okc.
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Post#275 » by Big nick » Sun Jun 5, 2022 8:02 pm

I just don't think Paolo will be committed and stay. I like both chet and Smith better than him. I even like ivey better than paolo.
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Post#276 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 5, 2022 9:10 pm

Big nick wrote:I just don't think Paolo will be committed and stay. I like both chet and Smith better than him. I even like ivey better than paolo.

If he comes out and says something positive about okc, that will change that feeling in a second.
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Post#277 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 5, 2022 9:14 pm

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He also said he felt OKC was gonna pick Giddey 1 or 2 days before the draft, so weird he didn't post anything about it :lol:

If you keep defending him I’ll come out of retirement and ban you. :wavefinger:
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Post#278 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Jun 5, 2022 9:20 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:

He also said he felt OKC was gonna pick Giddey 1 or 2 days before the draft, so weird he didn't post anything about it :lol:

If you keep defending him I’ll come out of retirement and ban you. :wavefinger:


Stop hating the man. Not his fault if Presti is trying to trade Shai for the 42th pick in the draft.
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Post#279 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 5, 2022 10:22 pm

I know retrobro90 won’t like this, but I wasn’t disgusted with what I’ve read/seen for Dieng. I’m not saying I want him at 12 but I can see a path forward there.
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Post#280 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jun 5, 2022 10:22 pm

I know retrobro90 won’t like this, but I wasn’t disgusted with what I’ve read/seen for Dieng. I’m not saying I want him at 12 but I can see a path forward there.
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