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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?

Jalen Williams
7
11%
Tari Eason
18
29%
Nikola Jovic
4
6%
Mark Williams
18
29%
Ochai Agbaji
1
2%
TyTy Washington
0
No votes
Ousmane Dieng
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No votes
Malaki Branham
2
3%
EJ Liddell
8
13%
Jeremy Sochan
4
6%
 
Total votes: 62

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Post#821 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:02 pm

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Great shooter, elite athlete, solid defender. And he was the clear best player on the National Champs. It's no mystery. Kid's a stud. But we have no chance at getting him, so you don't have to worry about us drafting him.


I mean, he’s a 3&D wing. I see that and there’s value in that. But his athleticism doesn’t mean a whole lot to me when he can’t create offense for himself with it. Can’t create for others either. And that’s as a college senior. What’s the upside here? I just don’t see it.

Since he’s been mentioned now: I’d rather have MarJon, for example.


In a league where a player like Klay Thompson excels, scouts are always going to value players who don't need the ball and o be effective. I wouldn't be surprised if he's an 18-20ppg scorer in the league. All depends on where ends up. For instance if he ends up in a system like SAS or Charlotte he'll get unlimited open looks. I'm very high on him. Every player isn't going to be a great isolation threat.


KC Johnson mentioned him (along with Eason), as two players that would really fill needs for the Bulls. He compared him to Mikal Bridges.

He is mocked well above #18, but you never know- there's always a player or two or three who slip. And a lot can change before the draft, too.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#822 » by Red8911 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:07 pm

Clint Eastwood wrote:I am on the EJ Liddell train. I don’t care if hes a little undersized. Draymond green measured 0.5 inches taller at combine. And he has a great standing jump, a Paul Milsap offensive game, great shot blocking, and ability to guard 4 positions. He’s officially my guy. And he realistically should be there. Don’t fear him being not tall enough. Dude has a great motor, weight, jumping and attitude.

This team needs size, no more undersized people.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#823 » by dawhizz » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:14 pm

I know we need a big but I keep going back to Jalen Williams. We need shooting so bad, especially 3PT shooting, and I like that he played a lot of PG last year and it shows in his playmaking and passing - I kind of dig the John Salmons comparison from nbadraft.net, though he seems to be a better shooter than Salmons was. He’s “my guy” at the moment.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#824 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:39 pm

dawhizz wrote:I know we need a big but I keep going back to Jalen Williams. We need shooting so bad, especially 3PT shooting, and I like that he played a lot of PG last year and it shows in his playmaking and passing - I kind of dig the John Salmons comparison from nbadraft.net, though he seems to be a better shooter than Salmons was. He’s “my guy” at the moment.


In today's NBA, you can never have enough shooting. The Warriors have Klay and Steph and Wiggins, but Jordan Poole has still found a key role with them with his shooting. Even a guy with limited talented like Pritchard on the Celtics is able to get a lot of minutes because he can hit a 3. I would not be upset with Williams at all.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#825 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:41 pm

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Clint Eastwood wrote:I am on the EJ Liddell train. I don’t care if hes a little undersized. Draymond green measured 0.5 inches taller at combine. And he has a great standing jump, a Paul Milsap offensive game, great shot blocking, and ability to guard 4 positions. He’s officially my guy. And he realistically should be there. Don’t fear him being not tall enough. Dude has a great motor, weight, jumping and attitude.

This team needs size, no more undersized people.


If he's anything like Draymond Green, size just doesn't matter. Liddell knows how to play basketball, and he's a got a very wide array of skills, he's very multi-dimensional. I think he's going to be a big time contributor in the nba for some team.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#826 » by Jvaughn » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:55 pm

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Clint Eastwood wrote:I am on the EJ Liddell train. I don’t care if hes a little undersized. Draymond green measured 0.5 inches taller at combine. And he has a great standing jump, a Paul Milsap offensive game, great shot blocking, and ability to guard 4 positions. He’s officially my guy. And he realistically should be there. Don’t fear him being not tall enough. Dude has a great motor, weight, jumping and attitude.

This team needs size, no more undersized people.


If he's anything like Draymond Green, size just doesn't matter. Liddell knows how to play basketball, and he's a got a very wide array of skills, he's very multi-dimensional. I think he's going to be a big time contributor in the nba for some team.


For every Draymond there's 100 Anthony Bennetts out there. I wouldn't bet on him becoming nearly as impactful as Draymond.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#827 » by 2weekswithpay » Mon Jun 6, 2022 8:47 pm

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Post#828 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Jun 6, 2022 8:51 pm

The only way Eason is there at 18 is if he keeps missing shots in workouts, so that 1st video makes me happy.
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Post#829 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Jun 6, 2022 8:54 pm

https://www.rookiescale.com/2022-consensus-board/

Thats a pretty good consensus mock/board. Has Agbaji at 18. Unfortunately many of the guys I want are gone based on that. Hopefully someone drops.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#830 » by FriedRise » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:01 pm

18. Bulls: Jalen Williams, G/F, Santa Clara
Height: 6' 5" | Weight: 210 | Age: 21 | Junior

Rival teams expect the Bulls to explore trade options with this pick, preferably in search of veteran help. If Chicago keeps it, this is an opportunity to add a more experienced college player who can feasibly deepen the bench next season. Williams’s stock has skyrocketed over the past month, and he looks to be on pretty firm footing in the first round. As a well-rounded perimeter player with excellent measurables and the skills to play several positions, he’s easy to envision fitting in pretty much anywhere. This is probably the high end of Williams’s range, but he’s moved the needle in the right direction and would be a nice fit here.


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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#832 » by Jvaughn » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:28 pm

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Don't know if I'm buying the shot yet.


His shot is definitely going to be the determining factor for his career. Defensively he's there, but he's got to show he can make the open spot up shots. That and develop some semblance of a left hand.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#833 » by Jvaughn » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:29 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:https://www.rookiescale.com/2022-consensus-board/

Thats a pretty good consensus mock/board. Has Agbaji at 18. Unfortunately many of the guys I want are gone based on that. Hopefully someone drops.


That would be a monster get for us. TyTy and Dieng jumping a lot of people would definitely be beneficial for us.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#834 » by MrSparkle » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:59 pm

Honestly, I've long thought most mid/late FRPs are total BS. If there's an avenue to get a starter/6th man quality rotation player with #18, sign me up every day of the week. Of course I wouldn't trade for some mediocre bench vet, but if there's a quality player to be had, sure - let's get him.

Assuming of course AKME did their draft HW, and they did not find the next Jokic/Giannis/Kawhi around #18.
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Post#835 » by Muzbar » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:18 pm

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Good, I like this kids 3&D potential. Still confused as to how he'll be 22 this year though.

It means his parents got busy a couple years earlier than the other draft prospects, hope this helps :D
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#836 » by Almost Retired » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:21 pm

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Clint Eastwood wrote:I am on the EJ Liddell train. I don’t care if hes a little undersized. Draymond green measured 0.5 inches taller at combine. And he has a great standing jump, a Paul Milsap offensive game, great shot blocking, and ability to guard 4 positions. He’s officially my guy. And he realistically should be there. Don’t fear him being not tall enough. Dude has a great motor, weight, jumping and attitude.

This team needs size, no more undersized people.[/quote

For a 3/4 Liddell is not undersized. He has almost a 7'0" wingspan and had the 2nd highest vertical among all the front court players at the Combine. And his timing on blocks is elite. He averaged more than 2 blocks a game. He would be undersized at the "5". But that's not where his potential lies. He can guard 1-4 and the way he slides on defense to stay between his man and the hoop is so fundamentally sound as to be elite in this draft class. And look at the way he's built. Solid frame. He's strong. Watch the highlight video how he chases down guys going to hoop when 95% of the players in College would have conceded a hoop in a relatively meaningless regular season game. This kid takes defense personally and seriously. OK, so he's not the answer to our problem at the "5". But he can handle the minutes Patrick sits and he can even share the front court with Patrick when we need defensive stops.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#837 » by Jvaughn » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:57 pm

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Good, I like this kids 3&D potential. Still confused as to how he'll be 22 this year though.

It means his parents got busy a couple years earlier than the other draft prospects, hope this helps :D


Ignite players are generally fresh out of HS our NBA journeymen. Marjon graduated 4 years ago, and decided not to go to college. There was a 2 year gap, then he decided he DID want to go to college, so he attended a JUCO, then decided to join the Ignite. That's a very weird career trajectory. And that doesn't even take into consideration his jumping around in HS.
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Post#838 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:59 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:https://www.rookiescale.com/2022-consensus-board/

Thats a pretty good consensus mock/board. Has Agbaji at 18. Unfortunately many of the guys I want are gone based on that. Hopefully someone drops.


Interesting that Agbaji has dropped that far. He was as high as 8 on some mocks not long ago.

And Liddell is now at 19- he was listed at top of second round at draftnet.

I'd be very happy with either of those two.
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Post#839 » by Jvaughn » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:17 pm

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For a 3/4 Liddell is not undersized. He has almost a 7'0" wingspan and had the 2nd highest vertical among all the front court players at the Combine. And his timing on blocks is elite. He averaged more than 2 blocks a game. He would be undersized at the "5". But that's not where his potential lies. He can guard 1-4 and the way he slides on defense to stay between his man and the hoop is so fundamentally sound as to be elite in this draft class. And look at the way he's built. Solid frame. He's strong. Watch the highlight video how he chases down guys going to hoop when 95% of the players in College would have conceded a hoop in a relatively meaningless regular season game. This kid takes defense personally and seriously. OK, so he's not the answer to our problem at the "5". But he can handle the minutes Patrick sits and he can even share the front court with Patrick when we need defensive stops.


You want to clarify the bolded part? I also.dee no scenario where he can play the 3 in the NBA.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#840 » by Clint Eastwood » Tue Jun 7, 2022 12:19 am

Jvaughn wrote:
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Red8911 wrote:This team needs size, no more undersized people.


If he's anything like Draymond Green, size just doesn't matter. Liddell knows how to play basketball, and he's a got a very wide array of skills, he's very multi-dimensional. I think he's going to be a big time contributor in the nba for some team.


For every Draymond there's 100 Anthony Bennetts out there. I wouldn't bet on him becoming nearly as impactful as Draymond.

One of his strengths is his attitude and work ethic. And he blocked 2.6 shots a game despite being 6’7’’. That kind of game plays. Bennett averaged 1.2 blocks in a weaker conference.
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