Worst/Negative Contracts Ranking

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:43 pm

How would people rank the following contracts in order of least trade value to most (no 1 is worst)

Wall 1 yr 47M left
Westbrook 1 yr 47M left
Harris 2 yr 79.5M left
Porzingis 2 yr 70M left
Thompson 2 yr 84M left
Hayward 2 yr 61.5M left + trade kicker
Bertans 2 yr 33M + 5 mil partial guaranteed 3rd year
Robinson 3 yr 55M left + 10 mil partial guaranteed 4th year
Randle 3 yr 77M left + 30M PO + trade kicker
MPJ 4 yr 145M left + 12M partial guaranteed 5th year (39M if guaranteed)

Above isnt my personal ranking btw, just a list in no particular order

JMAC3 · Post #2 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:44 pm

You forgot Ben Simmons.

Godaddycurse · Post #3 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:49 pm

JMAC3 wrote:You forgot Ben Simmons.

I think he still have plenty positive value, consideing tons of portland fans are ok with trading pick 7 for him

JRoy · Post #4 » by **JRoy** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:54 pm

I think MPJ is the worst. Not sure he will ever play a healthy season.

Godaddycurse · Post #5 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:57 pm

JRoy wrote:I think MPJ is the worst. Not sure he will ever play a healthy season.

give us a ranking of the rest too

queridiculo · Post #6 » by **queridiculo** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:59 pm

Porzingis honorable mention, no?

Godaddycurse · Post #7 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:02 pm

queridiculo wrote:Porzingis honorable mention, no?

He made the list

JRoy · Post #8 » by **JRoy** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:09 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:How would people rank the following contracts in order of least trade value to most (no 1 is worst)

Wall 1 yr 47M left
Westbrook 1 yr 47M left
Harris 2 yr 79.5M left
Porzingis 2 yr 70M left
Thompson 2 yr 84M left
Hayward 2 yr 61.5M left + trade kicker
Bertans 2 yr 33M + 5 mil partial guaranteed 3rd year
Robinson 3 yr 55M left + 10 mil partial guaranteed 4th year
Randle 3 yr 77M left + 30M PO + trade kicker
MPJ 4 yr 145M left + 12M partial guaranteed 5th year (39M if guaranteed)

From worst to somewhat less awful;
MPJ
Randle
Bertans
Thompson
Hayward
KP
Robinson
Westbrook
Wall
Harris

Post #9 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:09 pm

MPJ

Wall
Westbrook

Hayward
Randle
Thompson

Robinson
Bertans

Porzingis
Harris

Monix · Post #10 » by **Monix** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:12 pm

where's Lowry on this list?

Godaddycurse · Post #11 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:13 pm

Monix wrote:where's Lowry on this list?

Feel free to add him to your list. I didnt have him in my 10 worst

JMAC3 · Post #12 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:23 pm

Randle
Bertans
MPJ
Wall
Westbrook
Robinson
Hayward
Harris
Thompson

Harris, Thompson and Hayward are three best guys when they play IMO and 2 year deal is pretty stomachable for an acquiring team. Test them for a year and if they don't work out they at least have some value as an expiring and you can roll the dice again.

I don't even hate Randle talent, just his contract really limits what you can do for so long and it is harder to flip if things don't work out.

Post #13 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:23 pm

Would either side entertain a Wall for MPJ deal? Seems like a decent way for Denver to clear cap space in advance of Jokic's supermax extension and Houston to gamble on adding a really good young player for nothing if he can stay healthy.

Godaddycurse · Post #14 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Randle
Bertans
MPJ
Wall
Westbrook
Robinson
Hayward
Harris
Thompson

Harris, Thompson and Hayward are three best guys when they play IMO and 2 year deal is pretty stomachable for an acquiring team. Test them for a year and if they don't work out they at least have some value as an expiring and you can roll the dice again.

I don't even hate Randle talent, just his contract really limits what you can do for so long and it is harder to flip if things don't work out.

Is KP 10th on your list (since he didn't make it)?

ThatBoyNick · Post #15 » by **ThatBoyNick** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:29 pm

The worst contracts in the league have gotten a lot better if expirings are amongst the top of the worst.

Porter Jr
Bertans
Robinson
Porzingis
Randle?
Harris?
Lowry?
Gobert?
Fox?
Hayward?
Simmons?
JJJr?
SGA?
Rozier?

Godaddycurse · Post #16 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:33 pm

ThatBoyNick wrote:The worst contracts in the league have gotten a lot better if expirings are amongst the top of the worst.

Porter Jr
Bertans
Robinson
Porzingis
Randle?
Harris?
Lowry?
Gobert?
Fox?
Hayward?
Simmons?
JJJr?
SGA?
Rozier?

Note i specified trade value and thats why wall and westbrook are in my list even if they are expiring

Post #17 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:36 pm

ThatBoyNick wrote:The worst contracts in the league have gotten a lot better if expirings are amongst the top of the worst.

Porter Jr
Bertans
Robinson
Porzingis
Randle?
Harris?
Lowry?
Gobert?
Fox?
Hayward?
Simmons?
JJJr?
SGA?
Rozier?

Excuse me?

Threezus · Post #18 » by **Threezus** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:39 pm

JMAC3 wrote:You forgot Ben Simmons.

Yeah he isn't considered a negative contract yet i can promise you their are teams that would be interested in trading for him and giving up a few things. Hawks more than likely being one of them if they do a full check and deem him ok going forward.

ThatBoyNick · Post #19 » by **ThatBoyNick** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:43 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Excuse me?

You’re excused

lpbman · Post #20 » by **lpbman** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:58 pm

gswhoops wrote:Would either side entertain a Wall for MPJ deal? Seems like a decent way for Denver to clear cap space in advance of Jokic's supermax extension and Houston to gamble on adding a really good young player for nothing if he can stay healthy.

If you make it MPJ and Murry for Wall, Wood, and Tate, plus Milwaukee and Brooklyn firsts, I'm down. You could talk me into giving up the 3rd overall pick this year, but I don't think the 3rd is super useful for Denver and I'd want more in exchange for taking back the long term MPJ contract.

The John Wall contract isn't the worst thing in the world for the Rockets... we aren't a couple free agent signings away from contention. $50 million going to a guy riding the pine and behaving himself, and the Rockets will still struggle to pare down the roster. The guys fighting for the last spot are Gleague MVP's and such. The Westbrook contract is killing the Lakers, in contrast.