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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1841 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:49 pm

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Bohemian wrote:Bradley Beal would be amazing

I don't think Beal is the answer personally.

I'd rather see if this team could get a legit bench scorer, like a microwave guy off the bench. That's why I keep bringing up the name Jordan Clarkson.


The way things are going, Beal will probably cost close to what Clarkson would. I'm guessing Clarkson costs 2 firsts. I would rather have Bojan Bogdanovic than Clarkson.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1842 » by CelticsPride18 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:50 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Bohemian wrote:Bradley Beal would be amazing

I don't think Beal is the answer personally.

I'd rather see if this team could get a legit bench scorer, like a microwave guy off the bench. That's why I keep bringing up the name Jordan Clarkson.


I think the priority should be another wing.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1843 » by Cuban Pete » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:51 pm

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NotAKnicksFan wrote:Rozier and jeremi grant


Rozier would be awesome, dude has been lighting it up from 3, I dunno why Hornets would trade him?
As for Grant I really don't see who or what we would trade to get him here.


Yep. Terry was awesome in that Game7 against Cleveland when the Cavs left him wide open while he hoisted bricks and later bitched about not being a starter. OTOH, the Hornets have accomplished so much with him on the roster.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1844 » by tripa » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:57 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:I think people have to keep things in context. This isn't a very good Warriors team. They came out of a very weak Western Conference beset by injuries to its biggest stars. Nuggets without Murray and MPJ, Clippers without Kawhi and George. AD and Lebron injured off/on all season, Zion missed all season, CP3 injured in the playoffs. They won the war of attrition and beat really weak teams to get to the Finals. They're old, Klay is coming off missing two years and has clearly lost a step, Green is seemingly more concerned about tweeting and podcasts than being a great player and they're very talented young players just aren't ready and former #2 pick Wiseman hasn't even played. This is why I felt it could be a 5 game series. They don't have an answer for us. Any other team we might have faced from the West would have given us a tougher matchup. While I'm happy we finally faced a healthy (relatively) team for once, we still won't really find out how elite we might be. Like, we know we're good. But can we be 2008 good? Can we be dynasty good? That only gets answered if we beat healthy elite teams and that's not what we're getting these playoffs.


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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1845 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:59 pm

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FlatearthZorro wrote:
NotAKnicksFan wrote:Rozier and jeremi grant


Rozier would be awesome, dude has been lighting it up from 3, I dunno why Hornets would trade him?
As for Grant I really don't see who or what we would trade to get him here.


Yep. Terry was awesome in that Game7 against Cleveland when the Cavs left him wide open while he hoisted bricks and later bitched about not being a starter. OTOH, the Hornets have accomplished so much with him on the roster.


He was shooting over .400 from the 3 on like I dunno 8-9 attempts last season and was averaging 20 pts.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1846 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:10 pm


Bobby knows the ins-and-outs of the CBA but I get bored hearing him talk. Posted for those who may want to listen.
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Post#1847 » by TatumMVP » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:12 pm

We need ofensive help, so we can rest Tatum.
Garland iz ideal player for this team, but he is lock in Cavs.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1848 » by Cuban Pete » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:19 pm

[*]Screw the Warriors. They were lucky. That old, decrepit team just happened to get healthy at the right time after getting through the piss poor West. I've been saying for a long time that the NBA should do away with conferences.
[*]There's no doubt in my mind that Tatum was hurting in this series. It had been mentioned briefly earlier in the playoffs that he was battling wrist soreness. He's too good to be shooting this bad. He's an 85% career FT shooter and shoots 2-6 in Game5???
[*]The 2019 draft came back to bite the Celtics in the ass. Back then I wanted Jordan Poole. In his two year career at Michigan, he checked all 4 of the boxes in which I evaluate prospects. They passed on him twice. Langford had bust tattooed on his forehead and Grant's skills historically don't translate to the NBA. Williams had to reinvent himself and became the second coming of Jae Crowder. Poole was very effective off the bench.
[*]Injuries and bad calls are part of the game. That said, the Cs bench got exposed. Pritchard (taken ahead of Desmond Bane) was useless. It's apparent the Cs need two quality depth pieces at guard.
[*]The Celtics have little available trade capital. Therefore, they have to go bargain hunting. Based on their drafts, I have little confidence in the their scouting department.

Here are a couple of bargains, off the top of my head, that the Cs should explore.
Jarrett Culver - a dreadful shooter who can excel on D. Think Tony Allen. He's only 23yo and is an unrestricted free agent.
Marquese Chriss - He was just traded by the Mavericks for Christian Wood. He's a cheap expiring contract. Heath has been his biggest issue, but playing 15-20min off the bench can be a big upgrade. He's got skills. He's a great rebounder, and a decent shot blocker. He's not a good shooter but he can pass. He's making $3mil on an expiring contract next season and could be acquired for cheap. He'll turn 25 soon.

The good news is that the Celtics don't need to improve their core - just their bench. So can we please stop the Beal nonsense?
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1849 » by Ben-N1ce » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Need another scorer and one capable of 25+ on any given night or their ceiling is capped and it's not the Finals. White would have to be a good 25% better on offense if they run it back. The bench was laughable in this series.

White Grant and Pritchard scored 9 **** points the last 2 games combined. 9 **** points..on 2/19 shooting
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Post#1850 » by TatumMVP » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:23 pm

Wood was traded to the Mavs...
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Post#1851 » by Kalela » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:24 pm

For the next few years, to get to the finals you probably have to beat the Bucks. And to do that, you have to do it without doubling Giannis all game because you know he will be surrounded by shooters. Despite what happened in the finals, I would rather the team try to find a player who can guard Giannis one-on-one without giving up 60 points every night.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1852 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:42 pm

tripa wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:I think people have to keep things in context. This isn't a very good Warriors team. They came out of a very weak Western Conference beset by injuries to its biggest stars. Nuggets without Murray and MPJ, Clippers without Kawhi and George. AD and Lebron injured off/on all season, Zion missed all season, CP3 injured in the playoffs. They won the war of attrition and beat really weak teams to get to the Finals. They're old, Klay is coming off missing two years and has clearly lost a step, Green is seemingly more concerned about tweeting and podcasts than being a great player and they're very talented young players just aren't ready and former #2 pick Wiseman hasn't even played. This is why I felt it could be a 5 game series. They don't have an answer for us. Any other team we might have faced from the West would have given us a tougher matchup. While I'm happy we finally faced a healthy (relatively) team for once, we still won't really find out how elite we might be. Like, we know we're good. But can we be 2008 good? Can we be dynasty good? That only gets answered if we beat healthy elite teams and that's not what we're getting these playoffs.


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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1853 » by illmatic24 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:45 pm

I don’t know who they’re going to get or if the owners are willing to spend (they better be) but I want to see an offense upgrade, whether it’s a bench player or something else. And I want some kind of legit backup for RW3. Who knows if he’ll get back to 100% and stay that way for a whole season. Even if it’s just a defensive big man who can alter shots like Rob does. They need something at that spot because Theis is not it. Curry and others feasted inside on easy layups whenever Rob was sitting. Can’t have that next year if he’s out for a significant amount of time again.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1854 » by CelticsPride18 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:29 pm

Kalela wrote:For the next few years, to get to the finals you probably have to beat the Bucks. And to do that, you have to do it without doubling Giannis all game because you know he will be surrounded by shooters. Despite what happened in the finals, I would rather the team try to find a player who can guard Giannis one-on-one without giving up 60 points every night.


We need versatility. Game planning for one team could hurt us. We don’t even know if we are going to face them again in the next few seasons.
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Post#1855 » by Bostondave » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:39 pm

Right now I'm excited about this team. This team right now. No blockbuster moves. Although it'd be good to see if any FA's like what they see here and want to be involved. But even so I like this group. Hope against hope Timelord can stay healthy and with this "seasoning" they got I look forward to good things. I said rather early on they weren't ready yet. Not yet. But...
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Post#1856 » by Roger Federer » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:50 pm

This team is more than 1 or 2 additions away from a championship. We need a true PG that can SHOOT so that Smart can come off the bench to spell the Jays, we need a reliable backup center that can REBOUND because no way Rob makes it through the season healthy, and then we need at least 2 guards that can actually make 3s to rotate in when we go small. Grant can stay to backup the 4 spot but everybody else MUST go.
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Post#1857 » by ShermansShoes » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:54 pm

Like to see them trade a little bit of defense for some offense. PP is a fun story but doesn't cut it deep in the playoffs. Nesmith would be great if he could shoot. I for one am finally willing to let my season ticket to the Marcus Smart Experience expire. His value will never be higher than it is right now in my opinion. There has to be a player somewhere in between what Kemba gave us and what Smart gives you at the point that can be traded for.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Post-Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#1858 » by CelticsPride18 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:59 pm

Roger Federer wrote:This team is more than 1 or 2 additions away from a championship. We need a true PG that can SHOOT so that Smart can come off the bench to spell the Jays, we need a reliable backup center that can REBOUND because no way Rob makes it through the season healthy, and then we need at least 2 guards that can actually make 3s to rotate in when we go small. Grant can stay to backup the 4 spot but everybody else MUST go.


Might as well get a new team if we need all that.
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Post#1859 » by London2Boston » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:37 pm

Badly need a PG to play big minutes. The Marcus experiment was fun, but you can’t survive against truly elite teams turning the ball over so much. A PG that can run plays and get the Jays in place to score will be big. If we have to take a small hit defensively then so be it.
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Post#1860 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:41 pm

London2Boston wrote:Badly need a PG to play big minutes. The Marcus experiment was fun, but you can’t survive against truly elite teams turning the ball over so much. A PG that can run plays and get the Jays in place to score will be big. If we have to take a small hit defensively then so be it.

The thing is that "place to score" is with Tatum holding the ball outside the 3 point line. It is counterproductive to get a "PG" to pound the ball and generally runaround doing nothing simply because that fits the 80s and 90s idea of what a PG is.

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