2022 NBA Draft Part II

Post #981 » by **codydaze** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:22 pm

Big J wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:I think the Kings are going to take Daniels at #4

I hope so. I want to see that arena at sub 25% capacity. We got close a few times this last season. I think only then will the NBA step in and force that monster Vivek Ranadive to sell the team.

Yes, hopefully move them to Seattle this time.

Not happening.

The-Power · Post #982 » by **The-Power** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:23 pm

I hope that somehow Ivey lands in Detroit and Murray in Indiana. Or even the other way around is fine with me. Like the teams, like the players, like the fit. So I guess I'm hoping for the Kings to do something (un)expected.

tmorgan · Post #983 » by **tmorgan** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:25 pm

No trades in top 5 end up happening. Gonna go Jabari-Chet-Paolo-Keegan-Ivey.

Adg1987 · Post #984 » by **Adg1987** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:35 pm

tmorgan wrote:No trades in top 5 end up happening. Gonna go Jabari-Chet-Paolo-Keegan-Ivey.

Kings will take Ivey over Murray. There is possibility Ivey goes higher than 4 though

CraftylikeaFox · Post #985 » by **CraftylikeaFox** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:19 pm

Adg1987 wrote:
tmorgan wrote:No trades in top 5 end up happening. Gonna go Jabari-Chet-Paolo-Keegan-Ivey.

Kings will take Ivey over Murray. There is possibility Ivey goes higher than 4 though

I hope so. Nothing against Murray, I think he'll wind up being a fine NBA player, but Ivey's potential is so much higher. Murray might make the team better in the short term, but I still don't think he is enough to make us a playoff team. I'd rather roll the dice on Ivey's potential and shoot for the home run. Even if he busts at least we took that chance.

3toheadmelo · Post #986 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:50 am

Hardy is a big sleeper. whoever gets him is gonna get a major steal

clyde21 · Post #987 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:40 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Hardy is a big sleeper. whoever gets him is gonna get a major steal

facts

Big J · Post #988 » by **Big J** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:54 am

There’s way too much Chet Thunder smoke. Usually when you see that it means that someone is throwing a smoke screen. Especially an organization as tight lipped as OKC. Makes me think they might move down and grab Ivey.

namlede · Post #989 » by **namlede** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:05 am

Big J wrote:There’s way too much Chet Thunder smoke. Usually when you see that it means that someone is throwing a smoke screen. Especially an organization as tight lipped as OKC. Makes me think they might move down and grab Ivey.

I think they might take Banchero.

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buzzkilloton · Post #990 » by **buzzkilloton** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:42 am

CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Adg1987 wrote:
tmorgan wrote:No trades in top 5 end up happening. Gonna go Jabari-Chet-Paolo-Keegan-Ivey.

Kings will take Ivey over Murray. There is possibility Ivey goes higher than 4 though

I hope so. Nothing against Murray, I think he'll wind up being a fine NBA player, but Ivey's potential is so much higher. Murray might make the team better in the short term, but I still don't think he is enough to make us a playoff team. I'd rather roll the dice on Ivey's potential and shoot for the home run. Even if he busts at least we took that chance.

Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

Big J · Post #991 » by **Big J** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:47 am

Kings take Ivey and thrust Davion into the Bobby Jackson role.

bon · Post #992 » by **bon** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:57 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Hardy is a big sleeper. whoever gets him is gonna get a major steal

What’s a good comparison for him? Poole?

Post #993 » by **codydaze** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:00 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Adg1987 wrote:
Kings will take Ivey over Murray. There is possibility Ivey goes higher than 4 though

I hope so. Nothing against Murray, I think he'll wind up being a fine NBA player, but Ivey's potential is so much higher. Murray might make the team better in the short term, but I still don't think he is enough to make us a playoff team. I'd rather roll the dice on Ivey's potential and shoot for the home run. Even if he busts at least we took that chance.

Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

I'm actually higher on Murray than I am Ivey so that's what I'm hoping for if we stay at 4.

bkseven · Post #994 » by **bkseven** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:21 am

Absolutely nothing pointing to Ivey going to Sac other keyboard warriors

SelfishPlayer · Post #995 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:01 am

I've totally overlooked Trevor Keels, but I'm noticing a trend of "power guards" finding success in the NBA. Guys that have low centers of gravity and more mass than average like Fred VanVleet, Jalen Brunson, Kyle Lowry, Marcus Smart, and Luka Doncic are finding degrees of success utilizing skilled/crafty "small ball" physicality. The former NBA was designed for big men to be able to "bump" their way to success, this current NBA has room for non big men to carve out a niche skillfully bumping their way to success. Even a guy like Donovan Mitchell benefits, although he couples it with incredible vertical explosion. Lebron James has always benefitted if we are including everything, but I'm more focused on crafty below the rim players finding success while embracing contact/bumping.

Adg1987 · Post #996 » by **Adg1987** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:07 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Adg1987 wrote:
Kings will take Ivey over Murray. There is possibility Ivey goes higher than 4 though

I hope so. Nothing against Murray, I think he'll wind up being a fine NBA player, but Ivey's potential is so much higher. Murray might make the team better in the short term, but I still don't think he is enough to make us a playoff team. I'd rather roll the dice on Ivey's potential and shoot for the home run. Even if he busts at least we took that chance.

Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

Agreed. I think Ivey had the most star power of anyone in the draft. He is an aggressive player who will translate well.he can play 2 guard easy and work off the ball. I do not see him and fox being a problem at all.

shangrila · Post #997 » by **shangrila** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:33 am

Adg1987 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
I hope so. Nothing against Murray, I think he'll wind up being a fine NBA player, but Ivey's potential is so much higher. Murray might make the team better in the short term, but I still don't think he is enough to make us a playoff team. I'd rather roll the dice on Ivey's potential and shoot for the home run. Even if he busts at least we took that chance.

Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

Agreed. I think Ivey had the most star power of anyone in the draft. He is an aggressive player who will translate well.he can play 2 guard easy and work off the ball. I do not see him and fox being a problem at all.

I think there's some serious spacing concerns offensively, especially if you're trying to utilise a guy like Sabonis.

Defensively I think that's a trainwreck of a backcourt, although Ivey is going to suck on that end regardless of where he ends up.

buzzkilloton · Post #998 » by **buzzkilloton** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:41 am

shangrila wrote:
Adg1987 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

Agreed. I think Ivey had the most star power of anyone in the draft. He is an aggressive player who will translate well.he can play 2 guard easy and work off the ball. I do not see him and fox being a problem at all.

I think there's some serious spacing concerns offensively, especially if you're trying to utilise a guy like Sabonis.

Defensively I think that's a trainwreck of a backcourt, although Ivey is going to suck on that end regardless of where he ends up.

I would look to trade one of them in the near future their all valuable. I dont think you need to force it or anything. You could even hold for the season and move on next year depending on the market. I just wouldnt pass on a athlete like Ivey for the rest of this draft at 4 because of fit.

3toheadmelo · Post #999 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:26 am

bon wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Hardy is a big sleeper. whoever gets him is gonna get a major steal

What’s a good comparison for him? Poole?

Yeah Poole is a realistic outcome. I think his ceiling is someone like Bradley Beal too

Adg1987 · Post #1000 » by **Adg1987** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:23 pm

shangrila wrote:
Adg1987 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Smart play is take Ivey and figure it out later. Which is exactly why the Kings draft Murray.

Agreed. I think Ivey had the most star power of anyone in the draft. He is an aggressive player who will translate well.he can play 2 guard easy and work off the ball. I do not see him and fox being a problem at all.

I think there's some serious spacing concerns offensively, especially if you're trying to utilise a guy like Sabonis.

Defensively I think that's a trainwreck of a backcourt, although Ivey is going to suck on that end regardless of where he ends up.

What makes you think Ivey is going to suck on defense? All I have seen and read is he is good on the ball but just too aggressive.

We can agree to disagree on fit next to Fox. People act like Fox has issues playing with other guards because him and Tyrese didn’t play great together all the time last season before tyrese was traded The year before they played great together. Personally I felt like Fox packed it in at the beginning of last season when the team began to struggle. I would have traded Fox and kept Tyrese but what done is done and here we are