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2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN)

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#801 » by return2glory » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:59 pm

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I hope so. But we would have to move up between 12-18 range in the 1st round. Not sure we have the assets to do that unless it's Pritchard or Nesmith and a future number 1 or two future 2nd rounders.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#802 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:06 am

We we are looking to trade into the 1st round, you have to think we are trying to trade with the Hornets at 13 or 15. We know they are trying to dump salary and not take on more salary, in order to resign Bridges.

13 or 15 is right around right where we need to be if we are interesting in getting Tari Eason.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#803 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:11 am

Hal14 wrote:If we trade up to 28, a few names to consider:

Dalen Terry
Wendell Moore
Christian Braun
Jake LaRavia

All 4 of these guys would likely be in our rotation from day 1 next season IMO.

I doubt that all 4 of them are available but at least 1 of them should be.


Some guy on YouTube was talking about this and mentioned Christian Koloko, Andrew Nembhard, Braun and a couple of others..
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#804 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:13 am

Potential trade partners:

1.Hornets: 13th and 15 picks. Also 45th
2. Rockets: 3rd, 17th and 26th.
3. Spurs: 9th, 20th, 25th and 38th picks.

Hornets are the most likely for us.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#805 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:24 am

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Hal14 wrote:If we trade up to 28, a few names to consider:

Dalen Terry
Wendell Moore
Christian Braun
Jake LaRavia

All 4 of these guys would likely be in our rotation from day 1 next season IMO.

I doubt that all 4 of them are available but at least 1 of them should be.


Some guy on YouTube was talking about this and mentioned Christian Koloko, Andrew Nembhard, Braun and a couple of others..


That's who I would be looking at for 28th. Koloko and Newbhard.

Then maybe EJ Liddell if available, Justin Lewis, Ron Harper Jr, Kendall Brown, Braun, Jaylin Williams
and Trevor Keels.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#806 » by hugepatsfan » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:26 am

If you could trade seconds and cash for a late 1st (maybe the rumored GS talks) and then trade that pick, a future first, hope the other team semi-likes Pritchard, and take undesirably multi year salary into the TPE, then maybe you could get into mid 1st without touching any core pieces.

Realistically though, it takes Grant Williams as part of the above package.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#807 » by Kalela » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:06 am

Tari Eason would be a good get but I am not sure it is possible.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#808 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:47 am

Hal14 wrote:If we trade up to 28, a few names to consider:

Dalen Terry
Wendell Moore
Christian Braun
Jake LaRavia

All 4 of these guys would likely be in our rotation from day 1 next season IMO.

I doubt that all 4 of them are available but at least 1 of them should be.

On second thought, I really doubt we trade into the 1st round. Brad and Ime have made it clear over the past 12 months that they want proven vets. It would go against what they've been doing over the past 12 months to trade away proven vets to get a 1st rounder.

I think if Brad is making calls, that's it. He's just making calls because that's his job. To at least put feelers out there, gauge the interest level that other teams have in his players, see which teams in the 1st round may be open to moving their pick - he's just doing his due diligence. Because if he didn't, then he wouldn't be doing his job.

I'm guessing that unless a deal (to move into the 1st round) comes up that he just can't say no to, he'll just stand pat with the 2nd round pick (just like he did at last year's draft).

And if we stand pat, I'm still recommending we go for a PF/C type guy (first preference Yoan Makoundou but also like Barlow, Mobley, Matkovic) and then grab a wing as an UDFA (first preference Jules Bernard but also like Gabe Brown, Tyrese Martin, Jared Rhoden)
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#809 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:54 am

return2glory wrote:
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Hal14 wrote:If we trade up to 28, a few names to consider:

Dalen Terry
Wendell Moore
Christian Braun
Jake LaRavia

All 4 of these guys would likely be in our rotation from day 1 next season IMO.

I doubt that all 4 of them are available but at least 1 of them should be.


Some guy on YouTube was talking about this and mentioned Christian Koloko, Andrew Nembhard, Braun and a couple of others..


That's who I would be looking at for 28th. Koloko and Newbhard.

Then maybe EJ Liddell if available, Justin Lewis, Ron Harper Jr, Kendall Brown, Braun, Jaylin Williams
and Trevor Keels.


Koloko has nice defensive instincts and timing, but I don't think he can switch on the perimeter, his team played him in drop coverage.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#810 » by playa-hater » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:10 am

Not sure who is the best at mocking, but this site is better than average and this is less than 24 hour to go.. so... for anyone whom needs a peak..

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#811 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:32 am

playa-hater wrote:Not sure who is the best at mocking, but this site is better than average and this is less than 24 hour to go.. so... for anyone whom needs a peak..

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft


That's a very plausible mock from what I have been reading. Several of the talking heads on Sirius XM think that Jalen Williams, the kid from Santa Clara is another undervalued "can't miss" prospect, and this mock has him going at #16, right after Eason at #15.

Having said that, I don't see anyone in the draft good enough to warrant trading away significant assets for a pick in the first round. Even the top three guys have significant flaws.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#812 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:44 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Some guy on YouTube was talking about this and mentioned Christian Koloko, Andrew Nembhard, Braun and a couple of others..


That's who I would be looking at for 28th. Koloko and Newbhard.

Then maybe EJ Liddell if available, Justin Lewis, Ron Harper Jr, Kendall Brown, Braun, Jaylin Williams
and Trevor Keels.


Koloko has nice defensive instincts and timing, but I don't think he can switch on the perimeter, his team played him in drop coverage.


That would be an issue because he wouldn't get much playing time if that's the case, the way our defense is set up.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#813 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:18 am

return2glory wrote:
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That's who I would be looking at for 28th. Koloko and Newbhard.

Then maybe EJ Liddell if available, Justin Lewis, Ron Harper Jr, Kendall Brown, Braun, Jaylin Williams
and Trevor Keels.


Koloko has nice defensive instincts and timing, but I don't think he can switch on the perimeter, his team played him in drop coverage.


That would be an issue because he wouldn't get much playing time if that's the case, the way our defense is set up.

Yeah I'm not too high on Koloko. Maybe as an UDFA but that's it..
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Post#814 » by Kalela » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:51 am

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#815 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:49 am

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At 53 I'm taking Jaylin Williams, Vince Williams, Keon Ellis. Surely one is there. Keon Ellis is a two way wing and he has that BDE too. Imagine if this team finally drafted someone who understood what a cut to the basket is. He'll go undrafted and sign with the Heat and be a 28 minute/g player in the playoffs.

Tari Eason is going to have a better NBA career than Jabari Smith and Paolo Banchero.

AJ Griffin is just a worse Aaron Nesmith. How is he mocked higher than Christian Braun, who is more athletic and better at every aspect of the game? Unfortunate the Celtics do no have a late first, if Braun is there that's an easy draft.

Glad to see I'm not alone on the Vince Williams train. Top 7 rotation for a playoff team is very high bar to clear though. Especially for a lower pick that's not going to get force fed minutes from day 1 to accelerate his development.

I'm not sold on Jabari Smith either. I haven't seen a ton from him admittedlyt but what I've seen is just a bunch of tough shots (or some pull up threes in transition). Power to him for hitting those but I worry about guys that can't create separation in college. It doesn't seem like he did much playmaking either. I honestly feel like I'm watching a 6'10 3&D guy and not a number one draft pick. I know way less than the NBA front office so I must be missing something and I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Smith’s going to be a top flight scorer. Has everything to score 20 ppg+ in nba. Is he Tatum? No idea.

That said, for Celtics ear 53? Take a stash.

Then, since there are only 5 more picks, go get an UDFA like Tyrese Martin, Gillespie and 3 and D type players.

Stupid to take a guy at 53 that you have ti sign now. Take a mader/begarin euro. Then keep the roster spot open for an Udfa.


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#816 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:44 pm

I don't see very many players in this draft who would be more helpful than Malik Fitts, and none of those will be remotely available at #53. Plus this team is a legitimate contender, don't you think? You don't mess with the chemistry of a team like that without very good reason.

You are better off taking a big Euro you can stash, who might turn out to be a good player in 2-3 years.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#817 » by Scoonie » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:00 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I don't see very many players in this draft who would be more helpful than Malik Fitts, and none of those will be remotely available at #53.


That's hard to say, as Fitts has barely played. But he does look like he has some good size and talent. I'm very interested to see how he plays in the Summer League.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#818 » by winsomme2 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:12 pm

Tari Eason rumor, Gabe Brown in for a last second workout....


I wonder if Brad is indicating that he's looking for a 6'8" wing.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#819 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:47 pm

I don't want to see this team grab another rookie. Take a stash at 53. This team needs veterans
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN) 

Post#820 » by Kalela » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:49 pm

winsomme2 wrote:Tari Eason rumor, Gabe Brown in for a last second workout....


I wonder if Brad is indicating that he's looking for a 6'8" wing.


Brad knows what the Celtics need. :nod:
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